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  1. I decided I want to cook a week's worth of steel cut/pin oats without
    needing to stir on the stovetop for hours so broke down and ordered a
    slow cooker... anyone want to comment on this Rival model? Is it any
    good or did I screw up and make a poor choice? I figured I may as
    well get a large capacity model in case I want to try it for other
    foods.

    "Rival 38651-C 6-Quart Countdown Programmable Smart-Pot Slow Cooker,
    Stainless"

    http://www.rivalproducts.com/eStore/product.aspx?CatalogId=5&CategoryId=1186&ProductId=89

    Actually I bought it from Amazon.com, was on sale for $39.99, w/free
    shipping.

    Sheldon

  2. Sheldon said:


    http://www.rivalproducts.com/eStore/product.aspx?CatalogId=5&CategoryId=1186&ProductId=89

    Actually I bought it from Amazon.com, was on sale for $39.99, w/free
    shipping.

    Sheldon

    I tried to find one cheaper just to make you feel good. Amazon w/free
    shipping..best deal I saw. I have an old one that 5.5 qts ..it is a
    good size. Too big is better..well for most things. 😉 Never thought of
    doing oatmeal in it.

  3. Sheldon, I have this model and use it a lot. Oatmeal done in the
    crockpot is great...and a blessing on the mornings there is no time to
    cook.

    I think you'll enjoy it for more things than you had anticipated.
    Crockpots are great!

    The new crockpot liner bags by Reynolds are a real time saver,
    too....makes clean up a breeze.
    jillie
    Roseville, CA

  4. "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I decided I want to cook a week's worth of steel cut/pin oats without
    needing to stir on the stovetop for hours so broke down and ordered a
    slow cooker... anyone want to comment on this Rival model? Is it any
    good or did I screw up and make a poor choice? I figured I may as
    well get a large capacity model in case I want to try it for other
    foods.

    "Rival 38651-C 6-Quart Countdown Programmable Smart-Pot Slow Cooker,
    Stainless"

    http://www.rivalproducts.com/eStore/product.aspx?CatalogId=5&CategoryId=1186&ProductId=89

    Actually I bought it from Amazon.com, was on sale for $39.99, w/free
    shipping.

    Sheldon


    I have 2 crockpots one my MIL (4 quarts) had and mine (6 quarts). Crockpots
    work better if they are full and I seldom use the 6 quart for my family of
    4, but when you need a big one there is nothing to substitute. I'll drag
    out the 6 quart when needed. I think it would work well for your plan to
    make big batches of food ahead of time. One thing to consider with new
    crockpots is they run hotter than the old ones. Cooking often twice as fast
    as the older models. Make sure you keep that in mind when you experiment.

    Lynen

  5. jillie said:

    Sheldon, I have this model and use it a lot. Oatmeal done in the
    crockpot is great...and a blessing on the mornings there is no time to
    cook.

    I think you'll enjoy it for more things than you had anticipated.
    Crockpots are great!

    The new crockpot liner bags by Reynolds are a real time saver,
    too....makes clean up a breeze.

    Hmm, never heard of crock pot liner bags... thanks a lot... are they
    difficult to put on? One for six quarts sounds larger than what even
    I'm used to... I mean do I need help or can I unroll it all by myself?
    hehe Thanks.

    Sheldon

  6. King's Crown wrote:

    Snipped....

    ....................................................... One
    thing to consider with new

    Quoted message said:

    crockpots is they run hotter than the old ones. Cooking often twice as fast
    as the older models. Make sure you keep that in mind when you experiment.

    Lynen

    I made a pot roast last week in my crock pot. It was set on low, and
    following directions, I let it cook for 8 hours. When 8 hours had
    passed, I found the liquid in the pot to be boiling. A serious boil.
    In light of what you've said about newer crock pots running hotter, is
    this normal? My crock pot is maybe 5 or 6 years old.

    NancyJaye

  7. King's Crown said:
    Sheldon said:

    I decided I want to cook a week's worth of steel cut/pin oats without
    needing to stir on the stovetop for hours so broke down and ordered a
    slow cooker... anyone want to comment on this Rival model? Is it any
    good or did I screw up and make a poor choice? I figured I may as
    well get a large capacity model in case I want to try it for other
    foods.

    "Rival 38651-C 6-Quart Countdown Programmable Smart-Pot Slow Cooker,
    Stainless"

    http://www.rivalproducts.com/eStore/product.aspx?CatalogId=5&CategoryId=1186&ProductId=89

    Actually I bought it from Amazon.com, was on sale for $39.99, w/free
    shipping.

    Sheldon


    I have 2 crockpots one my MIL (4 quarts) had and mine (6 quarts). Crockpots
    work better if they are full and I seldom use the 6 quart for my family of
    4, but when you need a big one there is nothing to substitute. I'll drag
    out the 6 quart when needed.

    I very rarely cook anything in a pot smaller than 6 quarts... I'll use
    a 2 quart or 4 quart pot to reheat, but for cooking 6 quarts is the
    smallest pot I use.

    Quoted message said:

    I think it would work well for your plan to
    make big batches of food ahead of time.

    To me six quarts is a very small batch... I rarely cook anything that I
    don't plan for left overs... I don't think I've ever cooked a stew or
    soup in smaller than an eight quart pot. This is why I hesitated to
    buy a crock pot, even the largest are too small to accomodate my
    cooking style... like last night I cooked a roast beef, a top round,
    weighed 8 1/2 pounds... when I get around to down loading my photos
    I'll show you... turned out a perfect med-rare too, just how we like
    it. With six cats large meat is a must.

    Quoted message said:

    One thing to consider with new
    crockpots is they run hotter than the old ones. Cooking often twice as fast
    as the older models. Make sure you keep that in mind when you experiment.

    Now this I must say is odd... twice as fast... then how can that be a
    slow cooker??? Do the directions mention this? I did notice that
    some of the people who posted reviews did mention that their unit
    cooked too hot even at the lowest setting, but I just dismissed this to
    there are always people complaining just to complain, even if they
    never even bought the unit... anyone can post a review on the net for
    something they don't have. But there were even more reviewers who said
    the unit worked perfectly, no overheating at all. I guess I'll just
    have to test it out. Many years ago I did own a Rival crock pot, but
    don't remember if I ever used it... after it lived in my basement for
    many years I gave it away when I moved.

    Thanks.

    Sheldon

  8. NancyJaye said:

    King's Crown wrote:

    Snipped....

    ...................................................... One
    thing to consider with new

    Quoted message said:

    crockpots is they run hotter than the old ones. Cooking often twice as fast
    as the older models. Make sure you keep that in mind when you experiment.

    Lynen

    I made a pot roast last week in my crock pot. It was set on low, and
    following directions, I let it cook for 8 hours. When 8 hours had
    passed, I found the liquid in the pot to be boiling. A serious boil.
    In light of what you've said about newer crock pots running hotter, is
    this normal? My crock pot is maybe 5 or 6 years old.

    Is 5-6 years new in crock pot lingo? Did they ever work as advertised,
    cook slooooow!

    Hmm, how come all yoose crock pot touters never mentioned this
    overheating thingie in all the many previous crock pot threads??? I'm
    beginning to think I should cancel my order and stay with my tried and
    true old fogey methods. Doesn't anyone have anything good to say in
    defence of this, otherwise I'll take your silence as agreeing with
    crock pots being [censored] pots.

    Sheldon

  9. Quoted message said:

    . . .I did notice that some of the people who posted reviews did mention that their unit cooked too hot even at the lowest setting, but I just dismissed this to there are always people complaining just to complain, even if they never even bought the unit... <

    Unfortunately it is true that crockpots being manufactured these days
    generally cook hotter than they used to. I think there was some flap
    about some of the foods not reaching a high enough temperature quickly
    enough, so their solution was just to up the mininum temp (CYA).
    As far as I can tell, the older minimum temps are fine *as long as*
    certain things are not done which will keep all or part of the food at
    an unsafe temperature for long (like foods which are not thoroughly
    thawed before crockpotting, or foods which have been thawed at room
    temp. or left out awhile... it's also suggested to cut up any really
    thick solid foods and to turn the pot to high for an hour to up the
    temp quicker before going to low:
    There's more info here from the USDA:
    http://www.fsis.usda.gov/News_&_Events/NR_013106_01/index.asp
    And here's a way to test your particular slow cooker for proper
    temperature:
    http://www.extension.umn.edu/info-u/nutrition/BJ627.html

    Quoted message said:

    . . .Do the directions mention this? . . .<

    Not really <g>...

    Actually, we've been having a discussion about this on another message
    board also... here is something I wrote there:

    The first crockpot I had from long ago was good ("Crockwatcher"😉...
    unfortunately, the lid broke at some point, and I haven't found another
    lid or other contraption that will be fairly airtight to replace it
    with, and which also won't allow the smell to escape all day (which is
    hard to deal with, and esp. if you're hungry).

    I bought a second crockpot (Proctor Silex), but have not been happy
    with it because the same recipes just didn't work as well in it... the
    meats/poultry especially tended to dry out too much. After reading a
    lot of reviews on crockpots (and slow cookers) at amazon.com, I
    discovered that most slow cookers manufactured these days tend to cook
    hotter than the older models, so it's hard to really cook foods at the
    nice low temp that's good .... boo hoo. I later found another old one
    at a garage sale (an old Rival crockpot), so I'm about to try that it.

    Quoted message said:

    . . But there were even more reviewers who said the unit worked perfectly, no overheating at all. . . <

    I think this varies some between brands, but also depends alot on what
    exactly is being cooked... some things can simmer for hours and still
    be fine, but others will suffer.

    Diane B.

  10. "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:1140029150.751434.260930
    @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

    Quoted message said:

    Is 5-6 years new in crock pot lingo? Did they ever work as advertised,
    cook slooooow!

    Hmm, how come all yoose crock pot touters never mentioned this
    overheating thingie in all the many previous crock pot threads??? I'm
    beginning to think I should cancel my order and stay with my tried and
    true old fogey methods. Doesn't anyone have anything good to say in
    defence of this, otherwise I'll take your silence as agreeing with
    crock pots being [censored] pots.

    Sheldon

    Geez, man... Here's your chance to experiment. Enjoy the experience for
    God's sake! I imagine you're afraid of putting both feet into the 21st
    century at the same time but GIMMEABREAK! 😉

    Andy

  11. Sheldon,

    My pot roast *did* turn out wonderfully. I browned it first on all
    sides and, when sliced, it still had a tiny bit of pink. It was like
    buttah and tasted delicious. The veggies, carrots, potatoes, mushrooms
    and onions, were tender and not at all mushy. The only thing I did not
    like about my roast was that I put too much onion soup mix on it and
    not enough salt. Next time I'll just use salt, pepper and garlic
    powder. The onions at the pottom of the pot added more than enough of
    that flavor.

    I don't do too much cooking, especially using the crockpot, so I was
    just wondering if the boiling thing was normal or not.

    NancyJaye

    Sheldon said:
    NancyJaye said:

    King's Crown wrote:

    Snipped....

    ...................................................... One
    thing to consider with new

    Quoted message said:

    crockpots is they run hotter than the old ones. Cooking often twice as fast
    as the older models. Make sure you keep that in mind when you experiment.

    Lynen

    I made a pot roast last week in my crock pot. It was set on low, and
    following directions, I let it cook for 8 hours. When 8 hours had
    passed, I found the liquid in the pot to be boiling. A serious boil.
    In light of what you've said about newer crock pots running hotter, is
    this normal? My crock pot is maybe 5 or 6 years old.

    Is 5-6 years new in crock pot lingo? Did they ever work as advertised,
    cook slooooow!

    Hmm, how come all yoose crock pot touters never mentioned this
    overheating thingie in all the many previous crock pot threads??? I'm
    beginning to think I should cancel my order and stay with my tried and
    true old fogey methods. Doesn't anyone have anything good to say in
    defence of this, otherwise I'll take your silence as agreeing with
    crock pots being [censored] pots.

    Sheldon

  12. "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    snip
    anyone want to comment on this Rival model? Is it any

    Quoted message said:

    good or did I screw up and make a poor choice? I figured I may as
    well get a large capacity model in case I want to try it for other
    foods.

    "Rival 38651-C 6-Quart Countdown Programmable Smart-Pot Slow Cooker,
    Stainless"


    snip

    Quoted message said:

    Sheldon


    I have a question I would like to tag onto this if you don't mind. How are
    the Nesco 4 or 5 quart roasters any different than a crock pot? Or are
    they? Or is it that they can do different cooking methods as well?
    http://www.nesco.com/products/?category=700

    Janet

  13. NancyJaye said:

    Sheldon,

    My pot roast *did* turn out wonderfully. I browned it first on all
    sides and, when sliced, it still had a tiny bit of pink.

    I can't imagine pot roast not fully cooked through and through

    Quoted message said:

    I don't do too much cooking, especially using the crockpot.

    Okay.

    Sheldon

  14. Janet Bostwick said:

    I have a question I would like to tag onto this if you don't mind. How are
    the Nesco 4 or 5 quart roasters any different than a crock pot? Or are
    they? Or is it that they can do different cooking methods as well?
    http://www.nesco.com/products/?category=700

    Wow, Sheldon, there's your answer......we all know you like em BIG =)

    Forget your lil slow cooker and get you and 18 quart nesco roaster!
    (I'll be making my monthly dinner for our family of 3 now..........)

  15. Sheldon said:

    I decided I want to cook a week's worth of steel cut/pin oats without
    needing to stir on the stovetop for hours so broke down and ordered a
    slow cooker... anyone want to comment on this Rival model? Is it any
    good or did I screw up and make a poor choice? I figured I may as
    well get a large capacity model in case I want to try it for other
    foods.

    "Rival 38651-C 6-Quart Countdown Programmable Smart-Pot Slow Cooker,
    Stainless"

    http://www.rivalproducts.com/eStore/product.aspx?CatalogId=5&CategoryId=1186&ProductId=89

    Actually I bought it from Amazon.com, was on sale for $39.99, w/free
    shipping.

    I recently got the exact same model Sheldon, I think you'll like
    it...has worked like a charm for me so far.

    --
    Best
    Greg

  16. NancyJaye said:

    I made a pot roast last week in my crock pot. It was set on low, and
    following directions, I let it cook for 8 hours. When 8 hours had
    passed, I found the liquid in the pot to be boiling. A serious boil.
    In light of what you've said about newer crock pots running hotter, is
    this normal? My crock pot is maybe 5 or 6 years old.

    That is normal...

    --
    Best
    Greg

  17. Gregory Morrow said:
    Sheldon said:

    I decided I want to cook a week's worth of steel cut/pin oats without
    needing to stir on the stovetop for hours so broke down and ordered a
    slow cooker... anyone want to comment on this Rival model? Is it any
    good or did I screw up and make a poor choice? I figured I may as
    well get a large capacity model in case I want to try it for other
    foods.

    "Rival 38651-C 6-Quart Countdown Programmable Smart-Pot Slow Cooker,
    Stainless"

    http://www.rivalproducts.com/eStore/product.aspx?CatalogId=5&CategoryId=1186&ProductId=89

    Actually I bought it from Amazon.com, was on sale for $39.99, w/free
    shipping.

    I recently got the exact same model Sheldon, I think you'll like
    it...has worked like a charm for me so far.

    Ah, the voice of reason, from someone who actually owns one. Thanks
    Greg.

    Sheldon

  18. jillie said:

    Sheldon, I have this model and use it a lot. Oatmeal done in the
    crockpot is great...and a blessing on the mornings there is no time to
    cook.

    I think you'll enjoy it for more things than you had anticipated.
    Crockpots are great!

    The new crockpot liner bags by Reynolds are a real time saver,
    too....makes clean up a breeze.

    I still think they are a silly affectation...my crock pot cleans up
    very easily, almost like magic - and this is true for stuff I've cooked
    for many hours, e.g. spaghetti sauce.

    The crockpot is a GODSEND for making stocks, spaghetti sauce, soups,
    etc. You don't have to constantly fiddle with a flame, you can make a
    large quantity (I have the 6 - quart model) and clean - up is a snap...

    Tonight I'm making chicken/sausage gumbo, this weekend will be cold so
    I'm making some nice warm minestrone...I'll have plenty for myself, to
    give, and for company.

    Needless to say it's real economical too, no need for me to have to buy
    canned stock or soup ever again if I don't want to. For the price of a
    coupla cans of Progresso I can make *quarts* of soup with the
    thing...no more pondering "I wonder what EXACTLY they put in that
    canned stock?". I am running out of freezer space in fact, I am
    seriously considering buying a small freezer in which to store my
    crockpot "bounty"...

    I'm a single person and I love mine, they must be a REAL boon for
    larger households...

    --
    Best
    Greg

  19. Sheldon said:
    King's Crown said:

    One thing to consider with new
    crockpots is they run hotter than the old ones. Cooking often twice as fast
    as the older models. Make sure you keep that in mind when you experiment.

    Now this I must say is odd... twice as fast... then how can that be a
    slow cooker??? Do the directions mention this? I did notice that
    some of the people who posted reviews did mention that their unit
    cooked too hot even at the lowest setting, but I just dismissed this to
    there are always people complaining just to complain, even if they
    never even bought the unit... anyone can post a review on the net for
    something they don't have. But there were even more reviewers who said
    the unit worked perfectly, no overheating at all. I guess I'll just
    have to test it out.

    No worries at all, at "high" you'll get a "boil" after a while, not a
    roiling boil but more akin to a simmer...

    I too don't understand what folx mean by "too hot" (or twice as fast),
    that high setting is just perfect for doing things like stock or
    sauces...

    --
    Best
    Greg

  20. Quoted message said:

    . . .that high setting is just perfect for doing things like stock or sauces ...<

    True!... but a simmer longer than about 5 hrs. doesn't seem to work as
    well for things like chicken, meat, etc.

    Quoted message said:

    . . .I too don't understand what folx mean by "too hot" (or twice as fast) . . . ,

    What was said frequently on the other board was that meats and poultry
    which used to be nicely cooked at 8-10 hrs on low in a slow cooker,
    were overdone and dry-tasting when done 8 hrs in a new model slow
    cooker.
    Their advice and I believe it can be found in various places maybe in
    the instructions, now call for those kinds of things to be left in the
    cooker on low only 5 hrs. But many people were complaining because
    they can't leave work and come home to do that.

    Diane B.

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