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Risk Control Still a Problem for Diabetics

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  1. story.news.yahoo.comnews

  2. Marshall said:


    story.news.yahoo.comnews /diabetes_risk_dc

    Interesting article, thank you. What it appears to suggest is that many diabetics are either ill-
    educated about DM, uncaring, or plain stupid. Thankfully we on the MGs are not like that, but we are
    only a tiny fraction - less than 0.001%.

    How do we get the message out, I wonder?

    Al.

  3. Al Hardy said:

    Marshall wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    story.news.yahoo.comnews /diabetes_risk_dc

    Quoted message said:

    Interesting article, thank you. What it appears to suggest is that many diabetics are either ill-
    educated about DM, uncaring, or plain stupid. Thankfully we on the MGs are not like that, but we
    are only a tiny fraction - less than 0.001%. How do we get the message out, I wonder? Al.

    Why bother? the uncaring don't care. The plain stupid would not comprehend and the ill educated
    clearly have not got 1/2 an ounce of gumption and are probably better grouped amongst the other two.

    If you find you have something wrong with you then either you want to survive or seek a resolution
    or you do not.

    Pete

    Diagnosed 20/03/03 Type II D&E + Metformin + Gliclazide
    + Asprin 210lbs at Dx to BMI 166lbs achieved. To mail: aspen at freeuk.com

  4. "Al Hardy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Marshall said:



    story.news.yahoo.comnews

    Quoted message said:

    /diabetes_risk_dc

    Interesting article, thank you. What it appears to suggest is that many diabetics are either ill-
    educated about DM, uncaring, or plain stupid. Thankfully we on the MGs are not like that, but we
    are only a tiny fraction - less than 0.001%.

    How do we get the message out, I wonder?

    What'd be the point Al? If the message was nailed to every door of every diabetics house, they'd
    STILL bury their collective heads in the sand and pretend it's not serious and it's not going to
    affect their everyday lives.

    YOU know that's true too.

    Beav

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    Al.

  5. "Al Hardy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    Interesting article, thank you. What it appears to suggest is that many diabetics are either ill-
    educated about DM, uncaring, or plain stupid.

    The article talks about data from NHANES - National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, which
    seems to me as a collection of different health and statistical data from a statistical sample of US
    population. So it was not directly aimed on peaple with diabetes. The result then is more relevant
    for type 2 diabetes, as 90% of diabetics in population are type 2.

    I would just like to see similar comparisom for type 1 diabetics. The possibility, that the result
    of todays treatment is the same as it was 10 years ago seems to me too pesimistic... Or does the
    today's frequent BG monitoring affect the health at all???

    Igor

  6. Marshall said:

    story.news.yahoo.comnews _nm/diabetes_risk_dc

    I think this shows that MOST diabetics are not practising good control and that many risk
    assessments of Diabetes are skewed and do not reflect the positive aspects of good control,
    especially when related to insurance, etc.

    I think diabetics in good control get a bum rap because most risk assessments are performed using
    data from such studies and do not differentiate between good and bad control.

  7. "gman99" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Marshall said:


    story.news.yahoo.comnews

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    _nm/diabetes_risk_dc

    I think this shows that MOST diabetics are not practising good control and that many risk
    assessments of Diabetes are skewed and do not reflect the positive aspects of good control,
    especially when related to insurance, etc.

    Actually, you'll probably find that most diabetics don't think at all (about diabetes, control or
    future "developments"😉

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    I think diabetics in good control get a bum rap because most risk assessments are performed using
    data from such studies and do not differentiate between good and bad control.

    Diabetics in god control don't NEED data from studies. They use their meters and eat/exercise
    accordingly.

    Beav

  8. On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:09:33 -0000, "Beav"
    <[email hidden]> posted:

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    Diabetics in god control don't NEED data from studies. They use their meters and eat/exercise
    accordingly.

    And pray? <giggle>

    Quoted message said:

    Beav

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  9. "Dazey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:09:33 -0000, "Beav" <[email hidden]> posted:

    Quoted message said:

    Diabetics in god control don't NEED data from studies. They use their


    meters

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    and eat/exercise accordingly.

    And pray? <giggle>

    Some even do that, not that it helps:-)

    Beav

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