Riding in the cold

"David Sommerville" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Hello all: I really don't know what all the fuss has been about lately focused on the weather.
Winter is cold. We all know that, so just deal with
it. No big deal.

Here in SoCal it was a brisk 70 deg along the coast Dave

"David Sommerville" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Hello all: I really don't know what all the fuss has been about lately focused on the weather.
Winter is cold. We all know that, so just deal with
it. No big deal.

I understand us europeans have a lot to learn from y'all.

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Perre

warren <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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In article <[email hidden]>, Dave Hansen

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"David Sommerville" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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Hello all: I really don't know what all the fuss has been about lately focused on the weather.
Winter is cold. We all know that, so just deal with
it. No big deal.

Here in SoCal it was a brisk 70 deg along the coast Dave

Lets hope the weather improves soon so you can get in some rides.

-WG

Here in Sydney it was a warm 39 on the coast and 44 inland on Saturday. Very pleasant weather. In
Adelaide today it was supposed to be 39 - good preparation for doing the Old Willunga Hill in the
Tour Downunder Garry Allen

"warren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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In article <[email hidden]>, Dave Hansen

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"David Sommerville" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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Hello all: I really don't know what all the fuss has been about lately focused on the weather.
Winter is cold. We all know that, so just deal with
it. No big deal.

Here in SoCal it was a brisk 70 deg along the coast Dave

Lets hope the weather improves soon so you can get in some rides.

-WG

AAAAARRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH! Screw you guys. It was below freakin zero here today and yesterday.
I road in the basement on the trainer and then went out on the snowmobile...NO WARREN I didn't go to
Dunkin Donuts. As a matter of fact I don't think it was much above 50 in the damn basement!

Danny Callen ...Frosty the freakin' dough-man

Garry Allen said:

Here in Sydney it was a warm 39 on the coast and 44 inland on Saturday. Very pleasant weather.
In Adelaide today it was supposed to be 39 - good preparation for doing the Old Willunga Hill in
the Tour

Perfect 22C in Dunedin, light breeze perfect for swimming in the outdoor pool, getting rid of the
bike tan lines and generally cruising. And no bush fires.

Actually the way the 2003 season works out, most triathletes and not a few road racers are doing
base work now, same as you guys in the frozen North. It's just a lot more pleasant putting in the
long distances in the summer. STF

"Danny Callen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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AAAAARRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH! Screw you guys. It was below freakin

zero

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here today and yesterday. I road in the basement on the trainer and then went out on the
snowmobile...NO WARREN I didn't go to Dunkin Donuts. As a matter of fact I don't think it was much
above 50 in the damn basement!

Danny Callen ...Frosty the freakin' dough-man

You eat donuts and claim to be Fred-negative?

In article <[email hidden]>, Kurgan Gringioni

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"Danny Callen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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AAAAARRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH! Screw you guys. It was below freakin zero here today and
yesterday.

I miss the "change of seasons".

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I road in the basement on the trainer and then went out on the snowmobile...NO WARREN I didn't go
to Dunkin Donuts. As a matter of fact I don't think it was much above 50 in the damn basement!

Danny Callen ...Frosty the freakin' dough-man

That's a funny sig!

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You eat donuts and claim to be Fred-negative?

Inside joke, and you're not worth the time to explain it.

-WG

I went on a 3000 foot climb and the problem was it was three times as hard as normal. I didn't
expect that much snow on the road, but when I got near the top I had to carry my mountain bike
through 2 feet of snow for three miles.

Really scary!

For a while I was wondering if I could even muster enough strength to get through the ordeal. I was
exhausted and drained from the struggle. I has Accelerade in one of my water bottle and drank that.
Anyway I still got severe cramps after I got out of the snow, and again about a mile from my house.
I was dehydrated and bordering on hypothermia. My toes and fingers were frozen. That was really
scary and I was worried about if I would ever get out of there. Time was a factor as I barely made
it home by dark.

[censored], I will never do that road again in Winter. I didn't know that there was that much snow on that
road after the recent storms. It's a fire road that nobody uses and my tracks were the only ones.
Also there was a giant 2000 pound rock that fell down that blocked the road that I went around.
There were at least 4 trees in the road that fell down that I had to go around, under or through.

Good to be home in the hot tub and some warm blankets afterwards!

Bruce-
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"David Sommerville" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Hello all: I really don't know what all the fuss has been about lately focused on the weather.
Winter is cold. We all know that, so just deal with
it. No big deal.

For instance, on Sat, I went to the George Washington Bridge to ride with the gang. I figured the
ride up through Brooklyn would be a nice warm up. I also took time to properly prepare for the
ride. Given all the talk of cayenne pepper to "spice up" cold weather rides, I decided to go one
further. First, I stripped down and lubed up with olive oil.

Given the fear of Vaseline eating away my lycra while riding, I thought a natural oil would be
safer (and tastier). While I realize southwestern cuisine provides much heat in its intrinsic
spices, I decided to for go the haberno chilies and go more Mediterranean. I was looking for more
of a mellow warming, so I rubbed down with garlic and rosemary - good for both blood pressure and
the skin as well.

Next, I was faced with a choice of the latest technical wear or a plastic bag as my base layer.
Then it hit me, why not go with aluminum foil! It should reflect my internal heat back in! Just to
be on the safe side, I put a trash bag over the foil. Cold weather be damned, I was heating up
just getting dressed!

With all this layering and basting fluid, all I needed was shorts and knee warmers. Fortunately, I
picked up my new Kissena wool socks from Brian the week before, so my toes were toasty too! (You
to can have your own Kissena socks made by Defeet. They come in regular Aireators and Wooleatoers.
Sized M & L. $7 & $8 respectively. Supplies are limited, so act fast. This has been an unpaid
message.)

To cover my head, I decided to go natural - that's right ice berg lettuce. It is thin, can be
layered and was surprisingly warm. Additionally, it provides a nice snack as you ride along. If
you get too warm, no problem, just peel off a layer and chew, no waste or litter. Of course I
covered everything in my Kissena thermal jacket and was ready to roll.

Then I don't know what happened. When I got to the bridge, no on was there! Were you guys on the
NY or NJ side? I know I was running a little late, what with three flats along the bike path, but
I only stopped to change one since everytime I got off the bike for the repair, packs of wild dogs
started coming after me. I didn't know dogs like garlic so much!

Anyhow, I still had a good ride. And the doctors said I should regain the use of my fingers again.
As far as the toes go, who needs all ten anyway.

One last thing, I don't recommend slipping one of those heat packs down the front of your shorts.
The chafing can get a little harsh, if you know what I mean. (Found out the hard way.)

See you all out there next weekend!

Davis Hammerville

By the way, the drippings collect nicely in the foil layer and you can use them as a nice marinate
for steak when you get home. Mmmm...

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Got this note from Davis Hammerville today. Seems he is also preparing

right

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for the upcoming 2003 season as a Pro on a local Div III team.
--
David Sommerville davidsommerville.comdavidsommerville.comOpen ↗

That's not the first time I have been in trouble in my mountain adventures. One time a friend and I
came face to face with a mountain lion while riding our MB's. We had a stand off and a stare contest
to see who was going to give it up. I had cytomax in my water bottle and figured if I could squirt
it in the cats eyes the salt would burn the cats eyes and cause it to run away. It was pretty scary,
I have to tell you. This happened on Chowchilla Mtn. road at 6000 ft. The cat finally backed down
and cut a path sideways up the mountain. Just a few weeks ago I had a mountain lion run out in front
of my car near Yosemite, but this time I had a car, so the the cat was more worried then me. It cut
a path sideways through the river bed. I have only seen two lions in 30 years. I have had black
bears run out in front of my bike twice. Almost hit deers many times that have run out in front of
my bike. It's a gamble with the critters. As least I usually know where cars are coming from!

BTW, I been wanting to get a cell phone for my solo backwoods rides. 911, hopefully if it's not
blocked by the mountains. Old analog cell phones work better in the mountains then the new
digital phones.

B-
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"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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That was really stupid. I'd done the same damn stupid stuff. Cut it out.

"Bruce Johnston" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I went on a 3000 foot climb and the problem was it was three times

as hard

Quoted message said:

as normal. I didn't expect that much snow on the road, but when I

got near

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the top I had to carry my mountain bike through 2 feet of snow for

three

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miles.

Really scary!

For a while I was wondering if I could even muster enough strength

to get

Quoted message said:

through the ordeal. I was exhausted and drained from the struggle. I

has

Quoted message said:

Accelerade in one of my water bottle and drank that. Anyway I still

got

Quoted message said:

severe cramps after I got out of the snow, and again about a mile

from my

Quoted message said:

house. I was dehydrated and bordering on hypothermia. My toes and

fingers

Quoted message said:

were frozen. That was really scary and I was worried about if I

would ever

Quoted message said:

get out of there. Time was a factor as I barely made it home by

dark.

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[censored], I will never do that road again in Winter. I didn't know that

there

Quoted message said:

was that much snow on that road after the recent storms. It's a fire

road

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that nobody uses and my tracks were the only ones. Also there was a

giant

Quoted message said:

2000 pound rock that fell down that blocked the road that I went

around.

Quoted message said:

There were at least 4 trees in the road that fell down that I had to

go

Quoted message said:

around, under or through.

Good to be home in the hot tub and some warm blankets afterwards!

Bruce-
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"David Sommerville" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hello all: I really don't know what all the fuss has been about lately

focused

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

on the weather. Winter is cold. We all know that, so just deal

with

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

it. No big deal.

For instance, on Sat, I went to the George Washington Bridge to

ride with

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the gang. I figured the ride up through Brooklyn would be a nice warm up. I

also

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

took time to properly prepare for the ride. Given all the talk of cayenne pepper to "spice up"
cold weather rides, I decided to go

one

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

further. First, I stripped down and lubed up with olive oil.

Given the fear of Vaseline eating away my lycra while riding, I

thought a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

natural oil would be safer (and tastier). While I realize southwestern

cuisine

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

provides much heat in its intrinsic spices, I decided to for go

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

haberno chilies and go more Mediterranean. I was looking for more

of a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

mellow warming, so I rubbed down with garlic and rosemary - good

for

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

both blood pressure and the skin as well.

Next, I was faced with a choice of the latest technical wear or a plastic bag as my base
layer. Then it hit me, why not go with aluminum foil! It should reflect my internal heat back
in! Just to be on the safe side, I put a trash bag over the foil. Cold weather be damned, I
was heating up just getting dressed!

With all this layering and basting fluid, all I needed was shorts

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

knee warmers. Fortunately, I picked up my new Kissena wool socks from Brian the week before,
so my toes were toasty too! (You to

can

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

have your own Kissena socks made by Defeet. They come in regular Aireators and Wooleatoers.
Sized M & L. $7 & $8 respectively. Supplies are limited, so act fast. This has been an unpaid

message.)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

To cover my head, I decided to go natural - that's right ice berg lettuce. It is thin, can be
layered and was surprisingly warm. Additionally, it provides a nice snack as you ride along.
If you

get

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

too warm, no problem, just peel off a layer and chew, no waste or litter. Of course I covered
everything in my Kissena thermal

jacket

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and was ready to roll.

Then I don't know what happened. When I got to the bridge, no on

was

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

there! Were you guys on the NY or NJ side? I know I was running a little late, what with three
flats along the bike path, but I only stopped to change one since everytime I got off the bike
for the repair, packs of wild dogs started coming after me. I didn't know dogs like garlic so
much!

Anyhow, I still had a good ride. And the doctors said I should regain the use of my fingers
again. As far as the toes go, who

needs

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

all ten anyway.

One last thing, I don't recommend slipping one of those heat packs down the front of your
shorts. The chafing can get a little harsh, if you know what I mean. (Found out the hard way.)

See you all out there next weekend!

Davis Hammerville

By the way, the drippings collect nicely in the foil layer and you can use them as a nice
marinate for steak when you get home.

Mmmm...

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Quoted message said:

--

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------
Got this note from Davis Hammerville today. Seems he is also

preparing

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right

Quoted message said:

for the upcoming 2003 season as a Pro on a local Div III team.
--
David Sommerville davidsommerville.comdavidsommerville.comOpen ↗

Remember this guy? One of my favorite rides is where mountain lions are spotted frequently. So
everytime I go up the trail with my MB, It is always in the back of my mind if I will have another
encounter with one of the big cats. Big cats have been more active in Yosemite in recent years,
even wandering into picnic areas to lunch on pets. Just so happens that where one of my favorite
rides starts, there has been several cats spotted many times by the river and at the end of the
same ride, there is a danger posted sign, that a cat is residence to the area, spotted numerous
times and to take caution. So everytime I throw my bike down and crash for a minute on a log, I got
that cat in my mind!

mysteries-megasite.comcougar.jpgOpen ↗

mysteries-megasite.comcougar 2.jpgOpen ↗

B-
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"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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That was really stupid. I'd done the same damn stupid stuff. Cut it out.

"Bruce Johnston" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I went on a 3000 foot climb and the problem was it was three times

as hard

Quoted message said:

as normal. I didn't expect that much snow on the road, but when I

got near

Quoted message said:

the top I had to carry my mountain bike through 2 feet of snow for

three

Quoted message said:

miles.

Really scary!

For a while I was wondering if I could even muster enough strength

to get

Quoted message said:

through the ordeal. I was exhausted and drained from the struggle. I

has

Quoted message said:

Accelerade in one of my water bottle and drank that. Anyway I still

got

Quoted message said:

severe cramps after I got out of the snow, and again about a mile

from my

Quoted message said:

house. I was dehydrated and bordering on hypothermia. My toes and

fingers

Quoted message said:

were frozen. That was really scary and I was worried about if I

would ever

Quoted message said:

get out of there. Time was a factor as I barely made it home by

dark.

Quoted message said:

[censored], I will never do that road again in Winter. I didn't know that

there

Quoted message said:

was that much snow on that road after the recent storms. It's a fire

road

Quoted message said:

that nobody uses and my tracks were the only ones. Also there was a

giant

Quoted message said:

2000 pound rock that fell down that blocked the road that I went

around.

Quoted message said:

There were at least 4 trees in the road that fell down that I had to

go

Quoted message said:

around, under or through.

Good to be home in the hot tub and some warm blankets afterwards!

Bruce-
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"David Sommerville" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hello all: I really don't know what all the fuss has been about lately

focused

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

on the weather. Winter is cold. We all know that, so just deal

with

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

it. No big deal.

For instance, on Sat, I went to the George Washington Bridge to

ride with

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the gang. I figured the ride up through Brooklyn would be a nice warm up. I

also

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

took time to properly prepare for the ride. Given all the talk of cayenne pepper to "spice up"
cold weather rides, I decided to go

one

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

further. First, I stripped down and lubed up with olive oil.

Given the fear of Vaseline eating away my lycra while riding, I

thought a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

natural oil would be safer (and tastier). While I realize southwestern

cuisine

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

provides much heat in its intrinsic spices, I decided to for go

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

haberno chilies and go more Mediterranean. I was looking for more

of a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

mellow warming, so I rubbed down with garlic and rosemary - good

for

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

both blood pressure and the skin as well.

Next, I was faced with a choice of the latest technical wear or a plastic bag as my base
layer. Then it hit me, why not go with aluminum foil! It should reflect my internal heat back
in! Just to be on the safe side, I put a trash bag over the foil. Cold weather be damned, I
was heating up just getting dressed!

With all this layering and basting fluid, all I needed was shorts

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

knee warmers. Fortunately, I picked up my new Kissena wool socks from Brian the week before,
so my toes were toasty too! (You to

can

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

have your own Kissena socks made by Defeet. They come in regular Aireators and Wooleatoers.
Sized M & L. $7 & $8 respectively. Supplies are limited, so act fast. This has been an unpaid

message.)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

To cover my head, I decided to go natural - that's right ice berg lettuce. It is thin, can be
layered and was surprisingly warm. Additionally, it provides a nice snack as you ride along.
If you

get

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

too warm, no problem, just peel off a layer and chew, no waste or litter. Of course I covered
everything in my Kissena thermal

jacket

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and was ready to roll.

Then I don't know what happened. When I got to the bridge, no on

was

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

there! Were you guys on the NY or NJ side? I know I was running a little late, what with three
flats along the bike path, but I only stopped to change one since everytime I got off the bike
for the repair, packs of wild dogs started coming after me. I didn't know dogs like garlic so
much!

Anyhow, I still had a good ride. And the doctors said I should regain the use of my fingers
again. As far as the toes go, who

needs

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

all ten anyway.

One last thing, I don't recommend slipping one of those heat packs down the front of your
shorts. The chafing can get a little harsh, if you know what I mean. (Found out the hard way.)

See you all out there next weekend!

Davis Hammerville

By the way, the drippings collect nicely in the foil layer and you can use them as a nice
marinate for steak when you get home.

Mmmm...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

--------------------------------------------------------------------

------

Quoted message said:

--

Quoted message said:

------
Got this note from Davis Hammerville today. Seems he is also

preparing

Quoted message said:

right

Quoted message said:

for the upcoming 2003 season as a Pro on a local Div III team.
--
David Sommerville davidsommerville.comdavidsommerville.comOpen ↗

I don't know anything about lions, tigers and bears 😉 but when I was working as a lumberjack way
back then, I would often stumble across a Moose. Once neither of us saw each other until our paths
crossed about 10 feet apart. Let me tell you these animals are big up close. We just stood there and
stared at each other and all sorts of plans ran through my head, like starting up the chainsaw and
revving it high. Finally after about a minute or two I started singing softly. Her ears clipped in
my direction and I could see her listening. Slowly she shrugged her head and wandered off
majestically without looking back. Ever since then when I run into wild animals I start singing and
it seems to calm them down instead of startling them like normal. When confronted with lions I guess
you could look upon it as a way to "sing for your supper" or his.

--
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Perre

"Bruce Johnston" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Remember this guy? One of my favorite rides is where mountain lions are spotted frequently. So
everytime I go up the trail with my MB, It is

always

Quoted message said:

in the back of my mind if I will have another encounter with one of the

big

Quoted message said:

cats. Big cats have been more active in Yosemite in recent years, even wandering into picnic areas
to lunch on pets. Just so happens that where

one

Quoted message said:

of my favorite rides starts, there has been several cats spotted many

times

Quoted message said:

by the river and at the end of the same ride, there is a danger posted

sign,

Quoted message said:

that a cat is residence to the area, spotted numerous times and to take caution. So everytime I
throw my bike down and crash for a minute on a

log,

Quoted message said:

I got that cat in my mind!

mysteries-megasite.comcougar.jpgOpen ↗

mysteries-megasite.comcougar 2.jpgOpen ↗

B-
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"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

That was really stupid. I'd done the same damn stupid stuff. Cut it out.

"Bruce Johnston" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I went on a 3000 foot climb and the problem was it was three times

as hard

Quoted message said:

as normal. I didn't expect that much snow on the road, but when I

got near

Quoted message said:

the top I had to carry my mountain bike through 2 feet of snow for

three

Quoted message said:

miles.

Really scary!

For a while I was wondering if I could even muster enough strength

to get

Quoted message said:

through the ordeal. I was exhausted and drained from the struggle. I

has

Quoted message said:

Accelerade in one of my water bottle and drank that. Anyway I still

got

Quoted message said:

severe cramps after I got out of the snow, and again about a mile

from my

Quoted message said:

house. I was dehydrated and bordering on hypothermia. My toes and

fingers

Quoted message said:

were frozen. That was really scary and I was worried about if I

would ever

Quoted message said:

get out of there. Time was a factor as I barely made it home by

dark.

Quoted message said:

[censored], I will never do that road again in Winter. I didn't know that

there

Quoted message said:

was that much snow on that road after the recent storms. It's a fire

road

Quoted message said:

that nobody uses and my tracks were the only ones. Also there was a

giant

Quoted message said:

2000 pound rock that fell down that blocked the road that I went

around.

Quoted message said:

There were at least 4 trees in the road that fell down that I had to

go

Quoted message said:

around, under or through.

Good to be home in the hot tub and some warm blankets afterwards!

Bruce-
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"David Sommerville" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
> Hello all: I really don't know what all the fuss has been about lately

focused

Quoted message said:

> on the weather. Winter is cold. We all know that, so just deal

with

Quoted message said:

> it. No big deal.
>
> For instance, on Sat, I went to the George Washington Bridge to

ride with

Quoted message said:

> the gang. I figured the ride up through Brooklyn would be a nice warm up. I

also

Quoted message said:

> took time to properly prepare for the ride. Given all the talk of cayenne pepper to "spice
> up" cold weather rides, I decided to go

one

Quoted message said:

> further. First, I stripped down and lubed up with olive oil.
>
> Given the fear of Vaseline eating away my lycra while riding, I

thought a

Quoted message said:

> natural oil would be safer (and tastier). While I realize southwestern

cuisine

Quoted message said:

> provides much heat in its intrinsic spices, I decided to for go

the

Quoted message said:

> haberno chilies and go more Mediterranean. I was looking for more

of a

Quoted message said:

> mellow warming, so I rubbed down with garlic and rosemary - good

for

Quoted message said:

> both blood pressure and the skin as well.
>
> Next, I was faced with a choice of the latest technical wear or a plastic bag as my base
> layer. Then it hit me, why not go with aluminum foil! It should reflect my internal heat
> back in! Just to be on the safe side, I put a trash bag over the foil. Cold weather be
> damned, I was heating up just getting dressed!
>
> With all this layering and basting fluid, all I needed was shorts

and

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> knee warmers. Fortunately, I picked up my new Kissena wool socks from Brian the week before,
> so my toes were toasty too! (You to

can

Quoted message said:

> have your own Kissena socks made by Defeet. They come in regular Aireators and Wooleatoers.
> Sized M & L. $7 & $8 respectively. Supplies are limited, so act fast. This has been an
> unpaid

message.)

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>
> To cover my head, I decided to go natural - that's right ice berg lettuce. It is thin, can
> be layered and was surprisingly warm. Additionally, it provides a nice snack as you ride
> along. If you

get

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> too warm, no problem, just peel off a layer and chew, no waste or litter. Of course I
> covered everything in my Kissena thermal

jacket

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> and was ready to roll.
>
> Then I don't know what happened. When I got to the bridge, no on

was

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> there! Were you guys on the NY or NJ side? I know I was running a little late, what with
> three flats along the bike path, but I only stopped to change one since everytime I got off
> the bike for the repair, packs of wild dogs started coming after me. I didn't know dogs like
> garlic so much!
>
> Anyhow, I still had a good ride. And the doctors said I should regain the use of my fingers
> again. As far as the toes go, who

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> all ten anyway.
>
> One last thing, I don't recommend slipping one of those heat packs down the front of your
> shorts. The chafing can get a little harsh, if you know what I mean. (Found out the hard
> way.)
>
> See you all out there next weekend!
>
> Davis Hammerville
>
> By the way, the drippings collect nicely in the foil layer and you can use them as a nice
> marinate for steak when you get home.

Mmmm...

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> Got this note from Davis Hammerville today. Seems he is also

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> for the upcoming 2003 season as a Pro on a local Div III team.
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Stewart Fleming said:

Garry Allen said:

Here in Sydney it was a warm 39 on the coast and 44 inland on Saturday. Very pleasant weather.
In Adelaide today it was supposed to be 39 - good preparation for doing the Old Willunga Hill in
the Tour

Perfect 22C in Dunedin, light breeze perfect for swimming in the outdoor pool, getting rid of the
bike tan lines and generally cruising. And no bush fires.

Raining in Glasgow...

.....and in Rome the Pope continues to be a Catholic.

Cheers! Stephen

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AAAAARRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH! Screw you guys. It was below freakin zero here today and
yesterday.

I miss the "change of seasons".

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I road in the basement on the trainer and then went out on the snowmobile...NO WARREN I didn't
go to Dunkin Donuts.

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matter of fact I don't think it was much above 50 in the damn

basement!

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Danny Callen ...Frosty the freakin' dough-man

That's a funny sig!

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You eat donuts and claim to be Fred-negative?

Inside joke, and you're not worth the time to explain it.

I understand - obese donut consuming Old Guys surely must have a shortage of time between runs to
Krispy Kreme and the ensuing Food Coma naps/sugar overdose induced lethargy.

Some day I will join the ranks of the delusional old guy wannabees - I've got it penciled in for my
85th birthday. I look forward to that day.

sincerely yours,

Kurgan Gringioni (future Obese "racer"😉

Krispy Kreme gives away free donuts hot off the baking rollers at around 11am I think. I had a few
of those. Those are good, you could easily shove several of those down without blinking.

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> AAAAARRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH! Screw you guys. It was below

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> Danny Callen ...Frosty the freakin' dough-man

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Some day I will join the ranks of the delusional old guy wannabees - I've got it penciled in for
my 85th birthday. I look forward to that day.

sincerely yours,

Kurgan Gringioni (future Obese "racer"😉

In article said:

I have often thought that if jumped by a lion on a ride, you wouldn't stand a chance. Not because
of course the lion is a killing machine but because you are so focused on the trail and the job
at hand, it would take you by surprise. Especially for me since I use a walkman with music, I
wouldn't hear a thing. Also when doing a big climb, you can become weak as a kitten, and not much
left to be stuggling with a lion. Being winded already, lion would get the jump on you that is
for sure!

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Bruce Johnston said:

One of my favorite rides is where mountain lions are spotted frequently.

Did a Summer ride up Magnolia, behind Boulder. That climb sucks. Anyway,

I

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just KNEW a couger was following me up the mountain, and I was so hypoxic

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I knew there was nothing I could do if it were to jump me. I kept seeing cougar food, like deer
and grouse, and thinking, where there is couger

food,

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there must be cougars... Greg

We have mountain lions around where I ride, lots of deer for food too. I often ride with my red
tailight flashing because I doubt a mountain lion will consider that part of his normal prey. FWIW.

-WG