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  1. Being new to cycling and i dont really know anyone else who enjoys the sport as yet i have just started riding a very popular road route out of melbourne.

    There are a large amount of what i would call "serious" cyclists on this route

    Why is it these people ride along side each other rather than single file making overtaking for cyclists and cars very hard indeed.

    I am always keeping a watchful eye out for cyclists now since starting the sport but does it go both ways dont we have an obligation to ALL road users to ride single file and not cause problems

    Any thoughts ????

  2. This article doesn't answer your question, but it may help you better understand bunches

    randwickbotanycc.combunch%20riding.htm

  3. thats a rediculas response im afriad do we arrive there

    SAFER OR FASTER

  4. "Why is it these people ride along side each other rather than single file making overtaking for cyclists and cars very hard indeed.

    I am always keeping a watchful eye out for cyclists now since starting the sport but does it go both ways dont we have an obligation to ALL road users to ride single file and not cause problems"

    I think you will find that most of the states road rules, give cyclists the ability to ride up to a distance of 2.4m from the kerb and in fact to ride in pairs. This makes the cyclist more visible to motorist. Riding side by side is the safest way to ride on the road.

    Having said that I have seen large groups riding not in this way and taking up all of the road. This does exactly as you mentioned and is dangerous.🙁

  5. craigdurkee said:

    thats a rediculas response im afriad do we arrive there

    SAFER OR FASTER

    Craig, this post does not make sense.

    Is the purpose of your thread to understand why cyclist ride 2 abreast or to state that they shouldn't. The link provided expains how bunch riding works, are the riders you are concerned with riding differently to that explanation?

  6. mikebytes

    thanks for your repsonse

    sorry about the confusion i was just saying it was unsafe but thanks for the info as to why they do it i understand now

    all the best craig

  7. Hi Craig, good to see that you are concerned about safety. Safety is probably the number issue in the cycling community. We only need to compare the stats on % commuting by city to see that, as a percentage of the community, Perth has 5 times the number of cyclist commuters than Sydney and the main reason is that Perth has better separation from traffic, in particular a better off road bike path network.

    In Sydney, suitable cycling routes are often broken up with unsuitable connections between, often on busy roads. Cyclists use a variety of techniques to deal with these challenges, some simply ride on the footpath, while others will sprint along the busy road going as quickly as possible to blend in with the traffic the best they can. Two problems often encounted, is that you cannot keep as far left as you would like, due to the dangers of the 'door zone' and squeezing, where a driver squeezes their car past in the same lane, so riders will usually ride slightly out from the left, to force the motorists to change lanes to overtake and to provide the ability to move to the left in an emergency.

    Bunch rides in my area in Sydney are mainly conducted on mutilane main roads, very early in the morning, with the bunch consuming the left lane, leaving motorists the ability to overtake, using the middle and right lanes and to be honest, its a case of saftey in numbers. Go down these roads during peak hour on a week day and bikes are pretty scarce.

    Cheers, Michael.

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