Rides without Powermeter-How to update CP+?

rayhuang said:

Hello all,

There will come times this winter and spring (like the last two days) where I ride a bike without a power tap. HOw do you all deal with this on cycling peaks? I had a crazy idea of finding the closest rides in the past that are similar to the time and exertion of the missed days and creating new workouts based on this old data.

Do a few missed workouts a month have a big effect on TSS? I would assume they would and my crazy method might be better than no data?!?!?

I'd like some ideas!!

Thanks,
Ray

Just make a manual entry for that day with an estimate of power and duration (double click a blank day on the calendar), or manually set a TSS over ride (right click on a day in the calendar with an entry).

I find that since most of my training is likely to be similar to something I've done before, I can predict my TSS pretty closely. Rare I need to do it now as I record everything and have a backup PT wheel but sometimes it can happen.

Perhaps you need to do some rides like the ones you plan to do in the winter to set some benchmarks.

As a rule of thumb, estimating TSS this way (assuming reasonable estimates) for <10% of rides is probably OK and won't throw your Performance Manager Chart out too much. Beyond that and you could be introducing errors that may suggest caution when interpreting the PMC.

Alex-I can override TSS, but I cannot seem to manually chnage a new workout. Would you mind going into a bit more detail for me?

Thanks for the help,
Ray

rayhuang said:

Alex-I can override TSS, but I cannot seem to manually chnage a new workout. Would you mind going into a bit more detail for me?

Thanks for the help,
Ray

you can't change it once created unless you export it, modify the data and re-import. Create a new one if the old one ain't cutting the mustard and delete the old one.

Other alternative is to make up a csv file in excel in PT format and import that.

Alex Simmons said:

Perhaps you need to do some rides like the ones you plan to do in the winter to set some benchmarks.

Thanks for the tip. Thats what I did-I looked at distance, time and TSS and found the best match. I keep a journal so I suppose I could even look at the specific things I did on each ride as well. In the end I suppose I should just make both of my bikes have a PT mount and be 10 speed. I just dont have the time (or dont want to make the time) pre-ride to swap out the 8 for the 10 sp. cassettes.

rayhuang said:

Hello all,

There will come times this winter and spring (like the last two days) where I ride a bike without a power tap. HOw do you all deal with this on cycling peaks? I had a crazy idea of finding the closest rides in the past that are similar to the time and exertion of the missed days and creating new workouts based on this old data.

Do a few missed workouts a month have a big effect on TSS? I would assume they would and my crazy method might be better than no data?!?!?

I'd like some ideas!!

Thanks,
Ray

I wrote something for that a while back. You can download the files from here fileden.comMakeWKO%20v2.ZIPOpen ↗ . This is a console app that makes a PT CSV file that you can import into CP/WKO+. You can make up a few generic rides and then tweak them as required. It's a little more powerful and flexible than the manual ride entry in WKO+ and it tells you in advance what the ride stats are (NP, IF, TSS, etc.). Hope it helps.