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  1. Do you have to be tall to be a pro rider.
    I am short and stocky, and was upset to hear in the Tour of Qld that was on
    TV, the commentators syaing that one rider would struggle on the climb
    because he was short and stocky.

  2. "Abel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Do you have to be tall to be a pro rider.
    I am short and stocky, and was upset to hear in the Tour of Qld that was


    on

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    TV, the commentators syaing that one rider would struggle on the climb
    because he was short and stocky.

    Maybe that was nice terminology for "fat". Power/Weight
    ratio is key so this will often favour smaller riders when it
    comes to hills. There is a chart around of the heights and
    weights of the tour riders.. I can't find it but I'm sure most
    of the riders were on the shorter side..

    hippy

  3. Robbie McEwen is 5'7". Struggles on climbs, comparitively. But he got the
    TdF green jersey.
    I don't think the climbers are necessarily tall. Just light. That's why
    stocky might have been the problem.

    "Abel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Do you have to be tall to be a pro rider.
    I am short and stocky, and was upset to hear in the Tour of Qld that was
    on
    TV, the commentators syaing that one rider would struggle on the climb
    because he was short and stocky.

  4. Here is the list from the 1997 Tour de france

    BMI measures which is weight (kg) divided by the square of the height (m).
    This measures the build of the rider.

    'normal' body weight is usually defined as 18.5-25, overweight 25-30, obese
    30+. The problem with this definition, is it doesnt take in to account the
    muscle on a person.

    With the riders, very few in the entire field are 23 or above. None are over
    25.

    With the climbers.
    - Tony Rominger 21.22
    - Richard Virenque 20.28
    - Marco Pantani (probably the greatest climber of all time) - 1.72m, only
    56kg, BMI=18.92
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/results/1998/feb98/feb6.html

    Paul

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    "Abel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Do you have to be tall to be a pro rider.
    I am short and stocky, and was upset to hear in the Tour of Qld that was


    on

    Quoted message said:

    TV, the commentators syaing that one rider would struggle on the climb
    because he was short and stocky.

    Maybe that was nice terminology for "fat". Power/Weight
    ratio is key so this will often favour smaller riders when it
    comes to hills. There is a chart around of the heights and
    weights of the tour riders.. I can't find it but I'm sure most
    of the riders were on the shorter side..

    hippy

  5. Katharine & Paul said:

    Here is the list from the 1997 Tour de france

    BMI measures which is weight (kg) divided by the square of the height (m).
    This measures the build of the rider.

    'normal' body weight is usually defined as 18.5-25, overweight 25-30, obese
    30+. The problem with this definition, is it doesnt take in to account the
    muscle on a person.

    With the riders, very few in the entire field are 23 or above. None are over
    25.

    With the climbers.
    - Tony Rominger 21.22
    - Richard Virenque 20.28
    - Marco Pantani (probably the greatest climber of all time) - 1.72m, only
    56kg, BMI=18.92
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/results/1998/feb98/feb6.html

    Paul

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    "Abel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Do you have to be tall to be a pro rider.
    I am short and stocky, and was upset to hear in the Tour of Qld that was


    on

    Quoted message said:

    TV, the commentators syaing that one rider would struggle on the climb
    because he was short and stocky.

    Maybe that was nice terminology for "fat". Power/Weight
    ratio is key so this will often favour smaller riders when it
    comes to hills. There is a chart around of the heights and
    weights of the tour riders.. I can't find it but I'm sure most
    of the riders were on the shorter side..

    hippy


    very interesting data.

    I do feel that certain body types are predisposed to have certain strengths but in the end you need to be capable in all types of riding. If climbing is your weakness then learn how to hang on and maximise your strengths when you can.

    Im 1.95m and 87kg so while climbing isnt my strength, ive managed to ensure its not a great weakness and it has allowed me to utilise my strength which is sitting on a TT pace for long periods.

  6. Another thing is that this is TDF data. If you cant climb a bit, you wont
    get selected (unless you are Mario Cippolini pulling out before even the
    slightest rise in the road level)

    Magnus Larsson did pretty well staying out in front for as long as he did in
    the Olympic Road race. I dont know his data, but his BMI would have to be
    higher.

    Paul

    "byron27" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Katharine & Paul said:

    Here is the list from the 1997 Tour de france

    BMI measures which is weight (kg) divided by the square of the height
    (m).
    This measures the build of the rider.

    'normal' body weight is usually defined as 18.5-25, overweight 25-30,
    obese
    30+. The problem with this definition, is it doesnt take in to account
    the
    muscle on a person.

    With the riders, very few in the entire field are 23 or above. None are
    over
    25.

    With the climbers.
    - Tony Rominger 21.22
    - Richard Virenque 20.28
    - Marco Pantani (probably the greatest climber of all time) - 1.72m,
    only
    56kg, BMI=18.92
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/results/1998/feb98/feb6.html

    Paul

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    "Abel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > Do you have to be tall to be a pro rider.
    > I am short and stocky, and was upset to hear in the Tour of Qld that


    was

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    on
    > TV, the commentators syaing that one rider would struggle on the


    climb

    Quoted message said:

    > because he was short and stocky.

    Maybe that was nice terminology for "fat". Power/Weight
    ratio is key so this will often favour smaller riders when it
    comes to hills. There is a chart around of the heights and
    weights of the tour riders.. I can't find it but I'm sure most
    of the riders were on the shorter side..

    hippy


    very interesting data.

    I do feel that certain body types are predisposed to have certain
    strengths but in the end you need to be capable in all types of riding.
    If climbing is your weakness then learn how to hang on and maximise your
    strengths when you can.

    Im 1.95m and 87kg so while climbing isnt my strength, ive managed to
    ensure its not a great weakness and it has allowed me to utilise my
    strength which is sitting on a TT pace for long periods.

    --
    byron27

    6'5", curly hair, bit like krusty the clown i spose

  7. Abel said:

    Do you have to be tall to be a pro rider.
    I am short and stocky, and was upset to hear in the Tour of Qld that was on
    TV, the commentators syaing that one rider would struggle on the climb
    because he was short and stocky.

    Funny they should say that, 'cause all the TdF folklore
    you read says that the best hill climbers are always the
    shorter guys. Same power but less weight I guess.

    -kt

  8. "kingsley" <[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Do you have to be tall to be a pro rider.
    I am short and stocky, and was upset to hear in the Tour of Qld that was


    on

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    TV, the commentators syaing that one rider would struggle on the climb
    because he was short and stocky.

    Funny they should say that, 'cause all the TdF folklore
    you read says that the best hill climbers are always the
    shorter guys. Same power but less weight I guess.

    The short part is fine.. the "stocky" part means
    you're heavy.. heavy + hills = slow(er).

    heavy hippy

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    "kingsley" <[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Do you have to be tall to be a pro rider.
    I am short and stocky, and was upset to hear in the Tour of Qld
    that was on TV, the commentators syaing that one rider would
    struggle on the climb because he was short and stocky.

    Funny they should say that, 'cause all the TdF folklore
    you read says that the best hill climbers are always the
    shorter guys. Same power but less weight I guess.

    The short part is fine.. the "stocky" part means
    you're heavy.. heavy + hills = slow(er).

    So the ideal physique for being a hill climber is Hervé "Da plane! Da
    plane!" Villechaize?

    --

    A: Top-posters.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?

  10. Abel said:

    Do you have to be tall to be a pro rider.

    The guy in The Triplets of Belleville (see http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony/thetripletsofbellville.html ) has the perfect build for cycling.

    Huge quads, massive calves, and bugger-all else.

    Regards,

    Suzy (wondering whether to give the egg-beater a go for massage)

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