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  1. I am lucky. I’ve known and ridden with my Ride The Lobster team-mates
    for 10 or more years and they all live with or near me. Although it’s
    harder for teams that live far apart, I really recommend getting
    together at least once before departure for Nova Scotia in June to
    practice racing together. My team has had two practices so far and we
    learned quite a bit.

    TRANSITIONS

    First, we had a day of “Transition Practice”. We picked a section of
    road about 16km long and rode it out and back, doing transitions almost
    as frequently as possible. This worked out to be about every 1.5-2km,
    and we did about twenty transitions in about 1:40, not pushing as hard
    as in the race. We used a camera case that’s about the same size and
    shape as the real GPS baton will be in the race:
    [image: http://nhoover.smugmug.com/photos/251054250-O.jpg]
    We tried riding with and without Camelbaks. We preferred riding without
    a Camelbak and simply stuffing the baton in our jersey pockets while
    riding. The baton case has a Velcro strap that can be easily stuck to
    the Camelbak strap and rides nicely out of the way, but keeping it in
    the jersey pocket is the easiest.

    The ideal transition is where the incoming rider maintains full speed
    and the outgoing rider is just hitting full speed when the actual
    hand-off occurs. In a 200km stage, each team is likely do to 20-40
    hand-offs, so losing even 10 seconds per hand-off will translate to
    minutes off your time for that stage. But you want to take care as
    crashing due to riding too fast, or having two riders maintain full
    speed for a long time are not good. We tried for as efficient as
    possible transfers, although I don’t think we ever did a “perfect”
    one.

    The most important thing we learned doing this practice is that
    communication is key. We tried several methods, but having the incoming
    rider announce his distance in a loud voice (40 feet…20 feet…GO GO…5
    feet…Here it is!), then decisively putting the baton in the
    outstretched hand of the outgoing rider seemed to work best. This way
    it isn’t necessary for the rider in front to look backwards during the
    hand-off. We worked out in advance that the incoming rider would
    approach on the right side, passing the baton with the left hand to the
    right hand.
    [image: http://nhoover.smugmug.com/photos/228108538-L.jpg]

    RACING

    Late in December 2007, we organized a local “Ride The Lobster Team
    Practice Day”. Four teams participated. We picked a route that was
    one-way and had some hills but nothing too steep, similar to Nova
    Scotia. Since the days are short in December, we chose a route a bit
    over 120km instead of 190-200km as in the race. The weather cooperated;
    it was drizzly and cool (about 8C at the start, warming to 12C midday).
    I imagine the weather in the race could be similar.

    We met in San Francisco at 8:15am and the first riders started out soon
    after. Each team had its own vehicle and planned their transitions
    independently, just as in the race. As in the race, no transitions were
    done in the first 10km, although later on, some legs were as short as
    2km for some riders. We raced with no breaks or check points, with each
    team responsible for navigation and food.

    Here is the route we followed: http://tinyurl.com/387tmo

    [image: http://nhoover.smugmug.com/photos/251053133-O.jpg]

    We also used this website to map our route and obtain an elevation
    profile:
    http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=1512756

    Each team had to decide how far each rider would ride and in what
    order. This was based on each rider’s strengths and weaknesses as well
    as equipment. Team Totally Doable was using a normal 36” cycle plus a
    geared up (54” equivalent) cycle. The geared up cycle wasn’t shift-able
    though and was very tough to ride up hills. So they did more
    transitions than the other teams, swapping out equipment as well as
    riders. They were lucky in that all three of their riders could ride
    the geared up cycle without adjustments, although their shortest team
    member complained of hip pain afterwards from reaching for the pedals.

    For my team, it seemed that doing legs of 5-9km worked best. While it’s
    hard to keep up “race pace” for a long time, especially while climbing,
    short legs mean short breaks for the other two riders. Probably the
    best thing to do is start out with some slightly longer legs and go
    progressively shorter as the day wears on and the riders wear out.

    In the end, we surprised ourselves with how fast we covered the 123km.
    Team Totally Doable took first place in about 6:10 using their geared
    up speed machine—their average speed for the course, including stops,
    falls (two), and transitions, came out right at 20km/hr. My team,
    Yellow Line Fever, finished 5 minutes later. Team Venus (all woman
    racers, two members from California, two from Minnesota) finished soon
    after. Team Yam Power! was missing one of their racers and finished
    later while we were having dinner – but Jim Sowers managed to ride far
    enough to make this day his first qualifying ride, and successfully
    completed his qualification the next day.

    So what is the fastest unicycle? Geared or non-geared? Ever since the
    Laos Unitour in 2006, I have been a believer that given a skilled
    rider, an effective wheel size of over 36” on the flat or downhill will
    beat a standard 36” cycle. That appears to be especially true with a
    geared up 36” cycle. But the course is not all downhill and flat, and
    it is very, very long. Whatever you ride, make sure you’re completely
    comfortable on it. There are many factors involved and there is no one
    “best” unicycle for this race. It depends on the rider.

    When you sit down and think about actually racing 200km in a day, day
    after day, it sounds pretty hard. After these practice sessions, I know
    it’s not only doable, but will be really fun. With only four teams, it
    was surprisingly exciting and fun. Just imagine what it will be like
    with over 20 teams, and racers from all over the world! I can’t wait -
    see you in Nova Scotia!

    MORE PHOTOS

    Transition practice 12/2/2007:
    http://nhoover.smugmug.com/gallery/3929534

    Racing practice 12/29/2007: http://nhoover.smugmug.com/gallery/4147057

    Racing practice 12/29/2007:
    http://www.flickr.com/gp/83189681@N00/q0CXAJ (Tom Holub)

    Nova Scotia visit, course preview 9/2007:
    http://nhoover.smugmug.com/gallery/3495421

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  2. I have a couple of qs about transitions - when you transition, is it
    allowed for the new rider to start in front, and let the current rider
    catch up with them, or do you have to do it from behind?

    Just because having ridden with Sam, Roger etc., if there's a pack
    riding, it'd be hard to catch up to them at a transition without being
    able to draft, even when you're fresh, I have a feeling this method of
    transitioning might give an advantage once there's enough teams for
    drafting & race tactics to come into play?

    Joe

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  3. oh yeah, my other question (doh!) are there going to be any rules about
    transitioning when people are riding in a pack, ie. does the current
    rider have to drop off the pack, or can the transitioning rider come
    into the pack, transition there and the outgoing rider drops off the
    back?

    Joe

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  4. I think it's OK to transition either from the front or the back.
    Especially when we were transitioning from the non-geared to the geared
    36", it worked best to have the rider on the road get ahead, and have
    the geared rider get up to speed and catch him. Starting off on that
    monster is usually pretty wobbly.

    The pack transition issue didn't come up; it will be interesting during
    the real race. I expect, however it's done, there will be some crashes
    in busy transitions.

    About the ride in general: I am really not much of a big wheel rider.
    I pretty much view big wheel riding on roads as being very similar to
    jogging; an undifferentiated slog for as long as you're willing to put
    up with it. This race, on the other hand, seemed fast and dynamic all
    day long. We had to transition based on terrain; we pretty much wanted
    the geared uni for all flat and downhill sections, and the ungeared for
    all uphill. Highway 1 rolls up and down for the entire length of the
    coast, so we were constantly scanning for transition points in the car,
    and as Nathan said, we did more transitions than the other teams.
    Along with the competition, the transitions made it much more dynamic
    and urgent than typical big wheel rides; it was a lot of fun! We also
    were riding harder than we would have if we were doing 30+ miles solo;
    it was more like doing intervals than jogging.

    It was interesting to see the energy levels change; as the day went on,
    the two riders in the car would discuss who was going to take the next
    leg, and how long a leg we thought we were up for. We didn't stick
    with a 1-2-3 rotation the whole time; there were a few times when one
    of us felt stronger even though he'd just done a segment, so it went
    1-2-1-3. And there were a few times where the support car had pulled
    off for a transition, but the rider on the road waved it off because he
    was riding strongly.

    Another thing that became obvious is that many, or possibly even most
    teams are going to have to deal with injuries. This wasn't even a full
    day and our team had two falls (both on the geared uni, uphill).
    Neither caused a significant enough injury that the rider couldn't
    ride, but both Chris and I banged our knees, which could have been a
    lot worse. At RTL people will be pushing their own envelope and riding
    in packs, and I expect there will be a significant number of bad falls.
    If one of your teammates were to go down, suddenly you'd each be
    riding 100km days at race pace. It'll be intense.

    I'm looking forward to our next test race, in Moab just before MMF. I
    would recommend that everyone do some training in race conditions; it's
    eye-opening!

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  5. This is going to be SO. FUN. So unbelievably fun! Wait is something I
    cannot do!

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  6. joemarshall said:

    I have a couple of qs about transitions - when you transition, is it
    allowed for the new rider to start in front, and let the current rider
    catch up with them, or do you have to do it from behind?

    The new rider always starts in front. He's waiting, riding below full
    speed, and the old rider is still going full speed - they meet,
    briefly, exchange the baton, and the old rider slows while the new
    rider continues. In the picture, I'm the new rider and Beau is the old
    rider. He's at full speed and I'm just accelerating up. You can use
    either side, either hand, whatever you like to actually exchange the
    baton.

    joemarshall said:

    are there going to be any rules about transitioning when people are
    riding in a pack, ie. does the current rider have to drop off the pack,
    or can the transitioning rider come into the pack, transition there and
    the outgoing rider drops off the back?

    It will be tricky if there is a pace-line of many riders and one of
    them is doing a transition. We didn't try that scenario. I imagine it
    wouldn't be so hard if the old rider is at the back of the pack and the
    new rider takes his place (letting the other riders pass him just
    before receiving the baton). He might end up losing a few feet but he
    would be fresher and able to sprint for a bit to catch up.

    I don't envision any special rules here (other than the rule that the
    support vehicles MUST have all 4 wheels off the road and can only pull
    over in a safe spot. It is up to each team to figure out how to get
    their new riders into the race, with the baton. It is certainly allowed
    for multiple teams to exchange at the same place.

    It's a given that your team's transition cannot intentionally cause
    another team to slow down or crash.

    If you go out with your team, or even with just one other person, and
    try this out, you'll have it down before the race. I really recommend
    doing this before getting to Nova Scotia - if for nothing else, just
    peace of mind.

    Cheers,
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  7. Most of the UK riders taking part in RTL met up last weekend for some
    additional training. There are four UK teams at present and the riders
    are spread out across the country, so it's quite difficult to get
    everyone together for training rides, but it was certainly worth the
    effort. Most of the Saturday was spent riding in sub-zero temperatures,
    off-road and in total darkness - not to mention the distance and height
    gain!!🙄 Prefect training for RTL in the Winter I say!😄 Can't
    wait to do it again, as it was great fun.

    On the second day we also worked on our transitions, but we thought
    we'd put an English slant on things! We found that by handing over more
    at the side, than behind, we were less likely to drop things, as both
    riders could clearly see what was happening. The incoming rider
    announced their arrival with "would you like a cup of tea?" The
    outgoing rider would then start to increase their speed. The incoming
    rider announced "3 lumps...., 2 lumps........, 1 lump........" and by
    the time he was saying "here's your cup of tea" the outgoing rider was
    matching the incoming riders speed for the handover.

    We worked on this transition up to 17mph (27kph) and didn't have any
    problems. Both riders were at this transition speed for only a second
    or so.

    Don't know how we're going to go on with something sensible to hand
    over though 😉

    Steve

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  8. Does the transition have to be a moving transition? I understand that it
    is a race and you will lose ground if you stop, get off pass the GPS,
    then the new rider leaves; but if your there just for fun, losing
    ground wouldnt be a huge factor.

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  9. nathan said:

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    I turst you'll be using T7s in the real thing? 😕

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  10. jamessd said:

    I turst you'll be using T7s in the real thing? 😕

    You really should think about this race as a series of sprints, rather
    than a big long slog. Teams will be doing different distances for
    their ride segments, but I would be surprised if anyone were doing
    segments longer than 30 minutes at a time--and if you are doing 30
    minute segments, that means you get a 1 hour break in between your
    segments. The benefit of the T7 in that context is pretty marginal.

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  11. steve.colligan said:

    🙂QUOTE]
    I wondered why you weren't handing over crumpets too, but I realised
    that you'll all be equipped with the new toast racks by the race.

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  12. jamessd said:

    I turst you'll be using T7s in the real thing? 😕

    Nobody on our team will be using a T7. Why?

    ---Nathan

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  13. nathan said:

    Nobody on our team will be using a T7. Why?

    ---Nathan

    Because you use Wallis Deathgrips?

    Speaking of transitions, I don't think they're a major issue for teams.
    As long as you can figure out how to move out of the way it shouldn't
    be pose too much of a problem unless your team is transition happy.

    If I had a team that could train close together, I'd be working on
    bunch riding and drafting, and figuring out strengths and weaknesses
    amongst the team members.

    Ken

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  14. nathan said:

    Nobody on our team will be using a T7. Why?

    ---Nathan

    Just because for me it feels much more comfortable to cover any
    distance when you have something to lean on/hold onto.

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  15. Looks like you guys are doing the work it takes to do this right. I
    wish I could join in on the fun ... and am hoping that there will be a
    "next time".

    Enjoy!

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  16. This past weekend three RTL teams met in Keene Valley NY for a practice
    day in the Adirondack Mountains. We were met with gorgeous sunny days,
    wide smooth roads with little (but courteous) traffic, big hills, and a
    lobster dinner.

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    Vince on the way back down...yes, he had to go up that too.

    Not everyone could make it so we had 2 teams of 2 riders, and one team
    of 3. The teams of 2 had to have the non-riding rider drive himself to
    the next switch point, but this worked fine. We learned a lot about
    what's in store for us at RTL, and also had a lot of fun. We also all
    rode faster than we thought we would...which is fun. Given our smaller
    teams and hilly course we rode a slightly short-course of 65miles.

    The teams represented were
    Team Balance (in full)
    Team American Mojo (minus Bill)
    Team Personal Roller Coaster (minus Steve)

    Photos of the day are up here
    http://tinyurl.com/4t55nu
    http://gallery.mac.com/perrywoodin/100177

    and some thrilling video here
    http://video.yahoo.com/watch/2410220/7483664

    Elevation profile of our out-back ride here
    http://tinyurl.com/3qqyhn

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  17. Wooohooo!

    Great video...thanks for sharing. Looked like you guys were tearing it
    up pretty good. I loved watching the geared uni coming down that hill
    near the end...hauling a$$ but pedaling at a slower cadence than the
    36-ers.

    See you guys at the starting line. 🙂

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  18. Nice job! Loved the video! See you all in Nova Scotia!!!!!

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