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  1. The Dragon Ride

    In response to Arthur's request for more ride reports, here's mine for the
    Dragon Ride. Sorry if it's too long! I don't know if anyone else here did
    it? It's been very thoroughly discussed and disected on the C+ forum, and I
    am a bit surprised it hasn't come up here.

    Anyway, FWIW - the Dragon Ride took place last weekend, over a choice of 100
    or 150k routes in South Wales heading up into the Brecon Beacons. The 150k
    route covers two UK cat 1 climbs, the Rhigos and the Blywch, and one Hors
    Cat. climb near Ystradfellte. Despite sounding impressive, actually although
    the scenery is quite impressive the climbs were not that difficult - given
    low enough gears which I made sure to fit 😉. About 750 riders had entered,
    making it probably one of the largest, if not the largest, 'cyclosportive'
    type event in the UK (although I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong).
    Transponder timing chips were provided for a small fee, adding a further
    degree of competitive interest to the event.

    The ride got underway under slightly cloudy skies at 9.30 on Sunday morning
    with the first group of 50 riders. We were sent away in groups of
    approximately 50 every couple of minutes so being mid-field my ride didn't
    start until about 9.45, at the tail end of my group. I had done the Polka
    Dot, very slightly longer and hillier, so I didn't have any qualms about
    getting round, I just wanted to better my Polka Dot time. So I decided I
    would not start conservatively, and as one of a group of club riders in
    front of me said to the others 'ok, let's go', I thought to myself, 'right,
    I'm going with you'. So as they upped their pace I followed and we were soon
    leaving my start group in our wake and skipping ahead towards other groups
    that had started earlier. As we went further down the road various riders
    from the other groups joined and left the paceline, and somewhere along the
    way I even managed to leave my initial 'ride partners' behind. The South
    Wales police kindly provided a motor cycle rider who kept overtaking us and
    stopping traffic as large groups of cyclists made their way around
    roundabouts on the A48 - it was great fun being part of a peloton racing
    through the give way signs being given priority over other traffic.

    There was a slight climb up in to Neath which, on OS maps, has a chevron on
    it - normally seeing any road with one of those on it makes me rather
    worried - but somehow it went past rapidly as hardly more than a blip which
    required a quick down change through the gears for a minute or two, then
    straight back up through them as the road levelled off, and we sped on
    towards Glyn Neath at a pace that, for me, was unaccustomedly fast and
    furious - we were doing evens for the first 40 miles or so. Then came a feed
    station where we all stopped to grab bananas and water, and unfortunately
    'my' group of about 20 riders then disintegrated as we each seemed to set
    off individually.

    Wanting to press on, I rode off alone towards the split for the 100/150k
    routes, expecting at any moment that a new group would come up on my wheel
    and I would latch on to them, but after the split the road started going up
    slightly and somehow it didn't happen for quite a bit longer than I
    expected, in fact I began overtaking other individual riders. Eventually I
    did join with another group, who started riding through and off to maintain
    a good pace against a slight headwind. When it was my turn in front, I was
    relieved to find that we were just beginning a descent, so I thought 'that's
    good, I can do my bit to keep the pace up without making too much effort',
    but thinking it wouldn't be right to just coast at the same pace I pushed
    the pace up a bit to take advantage of the downhill. I cranked on as it
    levelled off and eventually, after a few km, looked behind for someone else
    to come through but there wasn't anyone! I was alone again! Was I impolite
    to push the pace on a descent, I wondered? Eventually another cyclist from
    the group did catch me and said 'I don't know what you had for breakfast but
    I want some!' I felt it was a nice compliment, but not entirely appropriate
    since he was then about to overtake me! Perhaps I should have had some of
    what he had! I stayed on his wheel for a bit and in fact we repassed and
    took tows off each other for most of the rest of the ride, at times being
    part of a larger group and at times being alone.

    100km came and went easily in about 3h15, a new PB for me, and it seemed we
    had still yet to see any real climbs! It wasn't long after that they started
    though. That it took me 3h15 for the first 100k and 2h15 for the final 50k
    says a lot about the hillyness of the last 50k! I completed the ride in
    just over 5h30, which I felt was not bad, placing me provisionally 32nd out
    of over 220 riders on the 150k who were 'chipped', and taking an hour off my
    Polka Dot time - much of that due, I think, to being able to work with
    fast-paced groups early on in the ride, which I never managed to do on the
    Polka Dot - I went round most of that alone.

    All in all great fun, and highly recommended. Now for l'etape!

    Rich

  2. Richard Goodman said:

    The Dragon Ride

    In response to Arthur's request for more ride reports, here's mine for the
    Dragon Ride. Sorry if it's too long! I don't know if anyone else here did
    it? It's been very thoroughly discussed and disected on the C+ forum, and I
    am a bit surprised it hasn't come up here.

    Anyway, FWIW - the Dragon Ride took place last weekend, over a choice of 100
    or 150k routes in South Wales heading up into the Brecon Beacons. The 150k
    route covers two UK cat 1 climbs, the Rhigos and the Blywch, and one Hors
    Cat. climb near Ystradfellte. Despite sounding impressive, actually although
    the scenery is quite impressive the climbs were not that difficult - given
    low enough gears which I made sure to fit 😉. About 750 riders had entered,
    making it probably one of the largest, if not the largest, 'cyclosportive'
    type event in the UK (although I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong).
    Transponder timing chips were provided for a small fee, adding a further
    degree of competitive interest to the event.

    The ride got underway under slightly cloudy skies at 9.30 on Sunday morning
    with the first group of 50 riders. We were sent away in groups of
    approximately 50 every couple of minutes so being mid-field my ride didn't
    start until about 9.45, at the tail end of my group. I had done the Polka
    Dot, very slightly longer and hillier, so I didn't have any qualms about
    getting round, I just wanted to better my Polka Dot time. So I decided I
    would not start conservatively, and as one of a group of club riders in
    front of me said to the others 'ok, let's go', I thought to myself, 'right,
    I'm going with you'. So as they upped their pace I followed and we were soon
    leaving my start group in our wake and skipping ahead towards other groups
    that had started earlier. As we went further down the road various riders
    from the other groups joined and left the paceline, and somewhere along the
    way I even managed to leave my initial 'ride partners' behind. The South
    Wales police kindly provided a motor cycle rider who kept overtaking us and
    stopping traffic as large groups of cyclists made their way around
    roundabouts on the A48 - it was great fun being part of a peloton racing
    through the give way signs being given priority over other traffic.

    There was a slight climb up in to Neath which, on OS maps, has a chevron on
    it - normally seeing any road with one of those on it makes me rather
    worried - but somehow it went past rapidly as hardly more than a blip which
    required a quick down change through the gears for a minute or two, then
    straight back up through them as the road levelled off, and we sped on
    towards Glyn Neath at a pace that, for me, was unaccustomedly fast and
    furious - we were doing evens for the first 40 miles or so. Then came a feed
    station where we all stopped to grab bananas and water, and unfortunately
    'my' group of about 20 riders then disintegrated as we each seemed to set
    off individually.

    Wanting to press on, I rode off alone towards the split for the 100/150k
    routes, expecting at any moment that a new group would come up on my wheel
    and I would latch on to them, but after the split the road started going up
    slightly and somehow it didn't happen for quite a bit longer than I
    expected, in fact I began overtaking other individual riders. Eventually I
    did join with another group, who started riding through and off to maintain
    a good pace against a slight headwind. When it was my turn in front, I was
    relieved to find that we were just beginning a descent, so I thought 'that's
    good, I can do my bit to keep the pace up without making too much effort',
    but thinking it wouldn't be right to just coast at the same pace I pushed
    the pace up a bit to take advantage of the downhill. I cranked on as it
    levelled off and eventually, after a few km, looked behind for someone else
    to come through but there wasn't anyone! I was alone again! Was I impolite
    to push the pace on a descent, I wondered? Eventually another cyclist from
    the group did catch me and said 'I don't know what you had for breakfast but
    I want some!' I felt it was a nice compliment, but not entirely appropriate
    since he was then about to overtake me! Perhaps I should have had some of
    what he had! I stayed on his wheel for a bit and in fact we repassed and
    took tows off each other for most of the rest of the ride, at times being
    part of a larger group and at times being alone.

    100km came and went easily in about 3h15, a new PB for me, and it seemed we
    had still yet to see any real climbs! It wasn't long after that they started
    though. That it took me 3h15 for the first 100k and 2h15 for the final 50k
    says a lot about the hillyness of the last 50k! I completed the ride in
    just over 5h30, which I felt was not bad, placing me provisionally 32nd out
    of over 220 riders on the 150k who were 'chipped', and taking an hour off my
    Polka Dot time - much of that due, I think, to being able to work with
    fast-paced groups early on in the ride, which I never managed to do on the
    Polka Dot - I went round most of that alone.

    All in all great fun, and highly recommended. Now for l'etape!

    Rich

    Well done RG; that is going some! good luck with l'Etape
    (ps C+ seems to have fallen by the wayside what with the new Third Way)

  3. "Richard Goodman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    The Dragon Ride

    In response to Arthur's request for more ride reports, here's mine for the
    Dragon Ride. Sorry if it's too long! I don't know if anyone else here did
    it? It's been very thoroughly discussed and disected on the C+ forum, and
    I am a bit surprised it hasn't come up here.

    Nice story Rich - good luck with the Etape.

    --
    Simon Mason
    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net

  4. "MartinM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Well done RG; that is going some! good luck with l'Etape
    (ps C+ seems to have fallen by the wayside what with the new Third Way)

    😉 Thanks Martin. Yes the 'Third Way' gained more out the brouhaha that C+
    created, than Sam managed to achieve from the brouhaha he created here for
    himself when he first tried to publicise it 😉

  5. Richard Goodman said:

    "MartinM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Well done RG; that is going some! good luck with l'Etape
    (ps C+ seems to have fallen by the wayside what with the new Third Way)

    😉 Thanks Martin. Yes the 'Third Way' gained more out the brouhaha thatC+
    created, than Sam managed to achieve from the brouhaha he created here for
    himself when he first tried to publicise it 😉

    didn't know he had ;-£

  6. MartinM said:
    Richard Goodman said:

    "MartinM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Well done RG; that is going some! good luck with l'Etape
    (ps C+ seems to have fallen by the wayside what with the new Third Way)

    😉 Thanks Martin. Yes the 'Third Way' gained more out the brouhaha that C+
    created, than Sam managed to achieve from the brouhaha he created here for
    himself when he first tried to publicise it 😉

    didn't know he had ;-£

    do now ;-(

  7. Quoted message said:

    "MartinM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Richard Goodman said:

    😉 Thanks Martin. Yes the 'Third Way' gained more out the brouhaha that
    C+
    created, than Sam managed to achieve from the brouhaha he created here
    for
    himself when he first tried to publicise it 😉

    Quoted message said:

    didn't know he had ;-£

    It was some time ago and is probably mostly, and best, forgotten about - a
    few days of promotional messages got some urcer's backs up.

    Rich

  8. "Richard Goodman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The Dragon Ride

    In response to Arthur's request for more ride reports, here's mine for the
    Dragon Ride. Sorry if it's too long! I don't know if anyone else here did
    it? It's been very thoroughly discussed and disected on the C+ forum, and
    I am a bit surprised it hasn't come up here.

    Anyway, FWIW - the Dragon Ride took place last weekend, over a choice of
    100 or 150k routes in South Wales heading up into the Brecon Beacons. The
    150k route covers two UK cat 1 climbs, the Rhigos and the Blywch, and one
    Hors Cat. climb near Ystradfellte. Despite sounding impressive, actually
    although the scenery is quite impressive the climbs were not that
    difficult - given low enough gears which I made sure to fit 😉. About 750
    riders had entered, making it probably one of the largest, if not the
    largest, 'cyclosportive' type event in the UK (although I stand to be
    corrected if I'm wrong). Transponder timing chips were provided for a
    small fee, adding a further degree of competitive interest to the event.

    The ride got underway under slightly cloudy skies at 9.30 on Sunday
    morning with the first group of 50 riders. We were sent away in groups of
    approximately 50 every couple of minutes so being mid-field my ride didn't
    start until about 9.45, at the tail end of my group. I had done the Polka
    Dot, very slightly longer and hillier, so I didn't have any qualms about
    getting round, I just wanted to better my Polka Dot time. So I decided I
    would not start conservatively, and as one of a group of club riders in
    front of me said to the others 'ok, let's go', I thought to myself,
    'right, I'm going with you'. So as they upped their pace I followed and we
    were soon leaving my start group in our wake and skipping ahead towards
    other groups that had started earlier. As we went further down the road
    various riders from the other groups joined and left the paceline, and
    somewhere along the way I even managed to leave my initial 'ride partners'
    behind. The South Wales police kindly provided a motor cycle rider who
    kept overtaking us and stopping traffic as large groups of cyclists made
    their way around roundabouts on the A48 - it was great fun being part of a
    peloton racing through the give way signs being given priority over other
    traffic.

    There was a slight climb up in to Neath which, on OS maps, has a chevron
    on it - normally seeing any road with one of those on it makes me rather
    worried - but somehow it went past rapidly as hardly more than a blip
    which required a quick down change through the gears for a minute or two,
    then straight back up through them as the road levelled off, and we sped
    on towards Glyn Neath at a pace that, for me, was unaccustomedly fast and
    furious - we were doing evens for the first 40 miles or so. Then came a
    feed station where we all stopped to grab bananas and water, and
    unfortunately 'my' group of about 20 riders then disintegrated as we each
    seemed to set off individually.

    Wanting to press on, I rode off alone towards the split for the 100/150k
    routes, expecting at any moment that a new group would come up on my wheel
    and I would latch on to them, but after the split the road started going
    up slightly and somehow it didn't happen for quite a bit longer than I
    expected, in fact I began overtaking other individual riders. Eventually I
    did join with another group, who started riding through and off to
    maintain a good pace against a slight headwind. When it was my turn in
    front, I was relieved to find that we were just beginning a descent, so I
    thought 'that's good, I can do my bit to keep the pace up without making
    too much effort', but thinking it wouldn't be right to just coast at the
    same pace I pushed the pace up a bit to take advantage of the downhill. I
    cranked on as it levelled off and eventually, after a few km, looked
    behind for someone else to come through but there wasn't anyone! I was
    alone again! Was I impolite to push the pace on a descent, I wondered?
    Eventually another cyclist from the group did catch me and said 'I don't
    know what you had for breakfast but I want some!' I felt it was a nice
    compliment, but not entirely appropriate since he was then about to
    overtake me! Perhaps I should have had some of what he had! I stayed on
    his wheel for a bit and in fact we repassed and took tows off each other
    for most of the rest of the ride, at times being part of a larger group
    and at times being alone.

    100km came and went easily in about 3h15, a new PB for me, and it seemed
    we had still yet to see any real climbs! It wasn't long after that they
    started though. That it took me 3h15 for the first 100k and 2h15 for the
    final 50k says a lot about the hillyness of the last 50k! I completed the
    ride in just over 5h30, which I felt was not bad, placing me provisionally
    32nd out of over 220 riders on the 150k who were 'chipped', and taking an
    hour off my Polka Dot time - much of that due, I think, to being able to
    work with fast-paced groups early on in the ride, which I never managed to
    do on the Polka Dot - I went round most of that alone.

    All in all great fun, and highly recommended. Now for l'etape!

    Rich

    Well done for finishing! A group of 6 of us entered the Dragon Ride. 4
    attempting the 150k and 2 the 100k. I unfortunately succumbed at the 71-mile
    mark. If you see the thread about 'Severe cramp sufferer', that's me trying
    to make sure I can get all the way round next year!

    Cheers

    Peter.

  9. "Peter Goddard" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Well done for finishing! A group of 6 of us entered the Dragon Ride. 4
    attempting the 150k and 2 the 100k. I unfortunately succumbed at the
    71-mile mark. If you see the thread about 'Severe cramp sufferer', that's
    me trying to make sure I can get all the way round next year!

    Ah, that's too bad Peter. I'm sure you weren't alone in suffering cramps
    though! A lot of people seemed to be complaining of that or dehydration
    (and AIUI the latter can be a cause of the former). I think the answer must
    be to eat and drink well (not just plain water but sports energy
    drinks/additives such as electrolytic powders), spin low gears rather than
    mash, and generally get fitter and more accustomed to hills and distances
    (says he who until earlier this year had never done anything like it
    either).

    Good luck for next year then!

    Rich

  10. Richard Goodman said:

    The Dragon Ride

    In response to Arthur's request for more ride reports, here's mine
    for the Dragon Ride. Sorry if it's too long! I don't know if anyone
    else here did it? It's been very thoroughly discussed and disected on
    the C+ forum, and I am a bit surprised it hasn't come up here.

    Anyway, FWIW - the Dragon Ride took place last weekend, over a choice
    of 100 or 150k routes in South Wales heading up into the Brecon
    Beacons. The 150k route covers two UK cat 1 climbs, the Rhigos and
    the Blywch, and one Hors Cat. climb near Ystradfellte. Despite

    It's a Bwlch ("pass" in saesneg)

    Quoted message said:

    sounding impressive, actually although the scenery is quite
    impressive the climbs were not that difficult - given low enough

    A good outing, but you seemed to have missed all the pubs!

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