Rhyl CC Wreath Fund: practicalities

"Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

This is not really for discussion because there isn't time to discuss.
However if someone can think of a reason why this is a really bad idea
please let me know by mail at once.

Would be worth double checking before buying a wreath that they haven't said
"donate, don't buy flowers" as is more and more the norm nowadays.
Otherwise, I'm in.

elyob said:

"Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

This is not really for discussion because there isn't time to discuss.
However if someone can think of a reason why this is a really bad idea
please let me know by mail at once.

Would be worth double checking before buying a wreath that they haven't said
"donate, don't buy flowers" as is more and more the norm nowadays.
Otherwise, I'm in.

In any case it would be sensible to not go overboard on the flowers -
especially if someone hits an extra zero by mistake!

http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/2005/12/oops.html
http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/2006/01/oops-2.html

James
--
James Annan
see web pages for email
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/
http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/

in message <[email hidden]>, Simon

Brooke (') said:

If we're going to organise a wreath for Rhyl CC we need to do so
quickly.

What I propose to do is to set up a paypal account which I will
publicise here and only here, later today.

OK, there is now a paypal account with the email address

[email hidden]

The account is in my name only, there wasn't time to do anything more
complex. If you don't trust me, don't contribute. The account will be
used for collecting money for a wreath for Thomas Harland as described
below, and will then be closed.

If you would like to contribute to a wreath, please make donations to
this account as soon as possible. If you experience any problems, email
me directly.

Quoted message said:

People who want to can then
donate into that account. When we know a date for the funeral of Thomas
Harland (the 14 year old) I will close the account to further donations
and use what's been collected

(i) to buy a wreath which will have on the card "From the members of
the Usenet group 'uk.rec.cycling' and get it delivered to the
appropriate undertaker

(ii) any residue, to be paid either
(a) to a charity nominated by Rhyl CC, or, if we can't get in touch
with them (which under the circumstances would not be surprising)
(b) to the Welsh national cycling body for youth training.

Afterwards I will post here and only here an accounting of what I have
done with all the monies donated.

--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

;; When your hammer is C++, everything begins to look like a thumb.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Simon Brooke said:

OK, there is now a paypal account with the email address

Quoted message said:

[email hidden]

I'm in for 20 but if you are a wee bit short of your total let me
know.

--
A T (Sandy) Morton
on the Bicycle Island
In the Global Village
http://www.millport.net

Simon Brooke said:

The account will be
used for collecting money for a wreath for Thomas Harland as described
below, and will then be closed.

Can we not forget the others who died please. The 14yr old was tragic
but the other three were fathers, husbands etc.

--
Tony

"The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
right."
- Lord Hailsham

in message <[email hidden]>, Tony Raven

(') said:

Simon Brooke said:

The account will be
used for collecting money for a wreath for Thomas Harland as described
below, and will then be closed.

Can we not forget the others who died please. The 14yr old was tragic
but the other three were fathers, husbands etc.

I wasn't forgetting the others, but thought one wreath would be an
appropriate symbol. If people would prefer four wreaths, please say so
here. We'll need to raise more money, of course.

--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
"The result is a language that... not even its mother could
love. Like the camel, Common Lisp is a horse designed by
committee. Camels do have their uses."
;; Scott Fahlman, 7 March 1995

Simon Brooke said:

OK, there is now a paypal account with the email address

[email hidden]

Hopefully some money is now coming your way.

That would have been soooo much simpiler if I had remembered which email
address I used to set up my paypal account in the first place. D'oh!

Arthur

--
Arthur Clune

"Arthur Clune" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Simon Brooke said:

OK, there is now a paypal account with the email address

[email hidden]

Hopefully some money is now coming your way.

That would have been soooo much simpiler if I had remembered which email
address I used to set up my paypal account in the first place. D'oh!

Arthur

--
Arthur Clune

Ditto (and password!).
Paul.

Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Tony Raven

(') said:

Can we not forget the others who died please. The 14yr old was tragic
but the other three were fathers, husbands etc.

I wasn't forgetting the others, but thought one wreath would be an
appropriate symbol. If people would prefer four wreaths, please say so
here. We'll need to raise more money, of course.

--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

One wreath with all four names?

LSMike said:

Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Tony Raven

(') said:

Can we not forget the others who died please. The 14yr old was tragic
but the other three were fathers, husbands etc.

one wreath with 4 names would be nice; what about something by the
roadside? (I see from the papers there is already a large tribute there
left by other riders) if there is any left over.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I wasn't forgetting the others, but thought one wreath would be an
appropriate symbol. If people would prefer four wreaths, please say so
here. We'll need to raise more money, of course.

on the way, thanks Simon.

Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Tony Raven

(') said:

Simon Brooke said:

The account will be
used for collecting money for a wreath for Thomas Harland as described
below, and will then be closed.

Can we not forget the others who died please. The 14yr old was tragic
but the other three were fathers, husbands etc.

I wasn't forgetting the others, but thought one wreath would be an
appropriate symbol. If people would prefer four wreaths, please say so
here. We'll need to raise more money, of course.

I agree. One wreath is an appropriate symbol and the remainder should
be donated to an appropriate charity nominated by the parents/club.

I'll push somehting over later tonight.

...d

in message <[email hidden]>, Simon Brooke

(') said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Simon

Brooke (') said:

If we're going to organise a wreath for Rhyl CC we need to do so
quickly.

What I propose to do is to set up a paypal account which I will
publicise here and only here, later today.

OK, there is now a paypal account with the email address

[email hidden]

The account is in my name only, there wasn't time to do anything more
complex. If you don't trust me, don't contribute. The account will be
used for collecting money for a wreath for Thomas Harland as described
below, and will then be closed.

Right. As of this moment we have £160 contributed by fifteen people. This
is certainly enough for two wreaths, so unless you're in the 'four
wreaths' faction I suggest anyone who has not contributed yet make any
contribution to a charity of your choice.

So far no-one has definitively said they think four wreaths is a good
idea. If you feel it is please say so. Otherwise I will procede with the
plan as originally stated.

--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
Ye hypocrites! are these your pranks? To murder men and give God thanks?
Desist, for shame! Proceed no further: God won't accept your thanks for
murther
-- Roburt Burns, 'Thanksgiving For a National Victory'

Paulmouk said:

"Arthur Clune" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hopefully some money is now coming your way.

That would have been soooo much simpiler if I had remembered which
email address I used to set up my paypal account in the first place.
D'oh!

Ditto (and password!).
Paul.

Life would be quite a lot simpler if I remembered everyone's passwords and
email addresses to their paypal accounts, you're right. None of that tedious
work stuff to go to.

--
Ambrose

"Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Tony Raven

(') said:

Simon Brooke said:

The account will be
used for collecting money for a wreath for Thomas Harland as described
below, and will then be closed.

Can we not forget the others who died please. The 14yr old was tragic
but the other three were fathers, husbands etc.

I wasn't forgetting the others, but thought one wreath would be an
appropriate symbol. If people would prefer four wreaths, please say so
here. We'll need to raise more money, of course.

Rather than wasting money on a wreath or wreaths, why not donate it to a
charity that helps accident victims recover from horrific injuries?

LSMike said:

One wreath with all four names?

This gets my vote too, or cheque instead if the families are asking for
donations.

~PB

Arthur Clune said:

Simon Brooke said:

OK, there is now a paypal account with the email address

[email hidden]

Hopefully some money is now coming your way.

That would have been soooo much simpiler if I had remembered which email
address I used to set up my paypal account in the first place. D'oh!

Arthur

Paypal seem to have concluded I have reached some limit that requires
them to have my bank details. Which I am not inclined to give them.
Maybe I'll have to set up a new account with a new e-mail addy.

--
Tony

"The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
right."
- Lord Hailsham

"Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Simon Brooke

(') said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Simon

Brooke (') said:

If we're going to organise a wreath for Rhyl CC we need to do so
quickly.

What I propose to do is to set up a paypal account which I will
publicise here and only here, later today.

OK, there is now a paypal account with the email address

[email hidden]

The account is in my name only, there wasn't time to do anything more
complex. If you don't trust me, don't contribute. The account will be
used for collecting money for a wreath for Thomas Harland as described
below, and will then be closed.

Right. As of this moment we have £160 contributed by fifteen people. This
is certainly enough for two wreaths, so unless you're in the 'four
wreaths' faction I suggest anyone who has not contributed yet make any
contribution to a charity of your choice.

So far no-one has definitively said they think four wreaths is a good
idea. If you feel it is please say so. Otherwise I will procede with the
plan as originally stated.

I think any wreath is not a good idea, it is a waste of money, please send
the lot to a charity.

Alan

Quoted message said:

--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
Ye hypocrites! are these your pranks? To murder men and give God thanks?
Desist, for shame! Proceed no further: God won't accept your thanks for
murther
-- Roburt Burns, 'Thanksgiving For a National
Victory'

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"Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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in message <[email hidden]>, Tony Raven

(') said:

Simon Brooke wrote:
> The account will be
> used for collecting money for a wreath for Thomas Harland as described
> below, and will then be closed.

Can we not forget the others who died please. The 14yr old was tragic
but the other three were fathers, husbands etc.

I wasn't forgetting the others, but thought one wreath would be an
appropriate symbol. If people would prefer four wreaths, please say so
here. We'll need to raise more money, of course.

Rather than wasting money on a wreath or wreaths, why not donate it to a
charity that helps accident victims recover from horrific injuries?

Hurrah, another sensible contributor.

Alan

Quoted message said:

Alan Holmes said:

I think any wreath is not a good idea, it is a waste of money

well 15 (at least) people don't, otherwise they would not have
contributed.