Reynolds 853

The only thing I know of this is that i recently bought a 1997 Lemond Zurich constructed of 853 steel and I like it a lot.

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"]Hello

Can anyone help me with Reynolds 853 tubing?

I would like information from Reynolds, but I have been unable to
acess their web site.

Is there any other soulces of detailed information about this
particular tubing or any other competative options?

Any frmaes or bicycles using this particular tubing would be of
interest.

The only two that I presently am aware of are some older LeMond and
Schwinn bicycles, but I no longer know what models that they are so if
anyone knows what models I am referring to or any other bicycles;
please forward that information ASAP as I would like to acquire a
bicycle soon as I have the bug again after several years of walking.

Any sites or other newsgroups with bicycles available would be
appreciated.

Thank You

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Quoted message said:

Hello

Can anyone help me with Reynolds 853 tubing?

I would like information from Reynolds, but I have been unable to
acess their web site.

Is there any other soulces of detailed information about this
particular tubing or any other competative options?

Any frmaes or bicycles using this particular tubing would be of
interest.

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Any sites or other newsgroups with bicycles available would be
appreciated.

Thank You

I believe Fuji's Roubaix Pro is an 853 frame(?).

For tubing information you may want to try and contact:

http://www.merrysales.com
I believe that the are a distributor for reynolds

I believe all the major tubing makers have something compariable

some sources (dist. for tubes)

True Temper : www.henryjames.com

Columbus : www.bikelugs.com

DEDACCIAI: www.bringhel.com

Also, for some steel frame eye candy:

http://www.bikelugs.com/pacentigallery/index.html
http://www.richardsachs.com/

Frame Building info:
the framebuilders list - www.bikelist.org
The frame forum - http://frameforum.net/

Ciao
James

Lemond sold bikes of Reynolds 853 steel for several years and some of
their "classic" models still are made from this material. The Zurich
and the Maillot Juane were two such 853 framesets, though the material
composition changed occasionally depending on the year. Some early
Maillot Juanes were aluminum.
In general, the framesets were labeled with a 853 decal, which may be
the best way to identify the composition.
The Buenos Aries was once 100 percent 853 at one point, then in later
years incorporated a mixture of 853 and another alloy. Still a very
good frame.
Their website is www.lemondbikes.com
The most popular oneline source for used framesets is Ebay.

Reynolds 853 is top of the line steel tubing. It is at the top of
reynolds scale. I have a bike with 853 and it rides really nice.
Having said this, I have ridden steel bikes with different grades of
reynolds and other brands of steel, and I cannot tell the difference.
However, when you look at the seatube and see the decal, you may have
the reassurance that you are riding a good frame. It is sort of like
wearing a seiko or an omega. When you look at the time in your wrist
it'll say the same thing. However, when you see the brand name you
might get the satisfaction to know that a greater effort and
investment was made in putting together an omega, than the seiko.

My mom gave my brother a bang o'lufsen (sp?) telephone. It doesn't
have a memory, caller ID or anything fancy. It cost her over $100.
When I talk to him on the phone or when I use his phone, I cannot hear
the other person any different than from the cheapest wallgreens
phone.

Andres

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Quoted message said:

Hello

Can anyone help me with Reynolds 853 tubing?

I would like information from Reynolds, but I have been unable to
acess their web site.

Is there any other soulces of detailed information about this
particular tubing or any other competative options?

Any frmaes or bicycles using this particular tubing would be of
interest.

The only two that I presently am aware of are some older LeMond and
Schwinn bicycles, but I no longer know what models that they are so if
anyone knows what models I am referring to or any other bicycles;
please forward that information ASAP as I would like to acquire a
bicycle soon as I have the bug again after several years of walking.

Any sites or other newsgroups with bicycles available would be
appreciated.

Thank You

Quoted message said:

Hello

Can anyone help me with Reynolds 853 tubing?

I would like information from Reynolds, but I have been unable to
acess their web site.

Is there any other soulces of detailed information about this
particular tubing or any other competative options?

Any frmaes or bicycles using this particular tubing would be of
interest.

The only two that I presently am aware of are some older LeMond and
Schwinn bicycles, but I no longer know what models that they are so if
anyone knows what models I am referring to or any other bicycles;
please forward that information ASAP as I would like to acquire a
bicycle soon as I have the bug again after several years of walking.

Any sites or other newsgroups with bicycles available would be
appreciated.

Thank You

It's a high strength steel - so tubes can be thin-walled - designed
primarily for TIG welding. The welds self-cure on cooling and the
material is just as strong where it has been joined. The butts are
short because it's designed for welding rather than brazing (which takes
longer and heats more of the tube).

853 is basically a replacement for 753, Reynolds' previous
super-strength steel. However, 753 was very sensitive to heat,
reverting to something like 531 if badly treated, and had to be silver
brazed rather than brass brazed. Reynolds only gave framebuilders a 753
seal of approval when they had submitted samples of their work for
examination. Some people did actually TIG weld 753 but Reynolds
wouldn't have been interested in any warranty claims.

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Quoted message said:

Hello

Can anyone help me with Reynolds 853 tubing?

I would like information from Reynolds, but I have been unable to
acess their web site.

Is there any other soulces of detailed information about this
particular tubing or any other competative options?

Any frmaes or bicycles using this particular tubing would be of
interest.

The only two that I presently am aware of are some older LeMond and
Schwinn bicycles, but I no longer know what models that they are so if
anyone knows what models I am referring to or any other bicycles;
please forward that information ASAP as I would like to acquire a
bicycle soon as I have the bug again after several years of walking.

Any sites or other newsgroups with bicycles available would be
appreciated.

- - Soma Cycles makes an 853 bike.

http://www.somafab.com/smoothie.html

Waterford has a useful page explaining the tubing techonlogy.

http://www.waterfordbikes.com/2004/data/bicycles/tech/index.php

_ If you google for Dedacciai tubing, you'll find some useful
information as well. I found one page that had a comparision
of the various tube sets, but I failed to bookmark it.

_ Booker C. Bense

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Reynolds 853 is top of the line steel tubing. It is at the top of
reynolds scale. I have a bike with 853 and it rides really nice.
Having said this, I have ridden steel bikes with different grades of
reynolds and other brands of steel, and I cannot tell the difference.
However, when you look at the seatube and see the decal, you may have
the reassurance that you are riding a good frame. It is sort of like
wearing a seiko or an omega. When you look at the time in your wrist
it'll say the same thing. However, when you see the brand name you
might get the satisfaction to know that a greater effort and
investment was made in putting together an omega, than the seiko.

My mom gave my brother a bang o'lufsen (sp?) telephone. It doesn't
have a memory, caller ID or anything fancy. It cost her over $100.
When I talk to him on the phone or when I use his phone, I cannot hear
the other person any different than from the cheapest wallgreens
phone.

This is so true. In fact, alot of hi-end builders, like Richard Sachs,
Albert Eisentraut, Rivendell (Curt Goodrich built/Grant Petersen
designed) and many others, will design their frames for an
individual's particular need and use tubing from different
manufacturers like Reynolds, Columbus, True Temper, Dedacciai and
others. Eisentraut states it still has a "small stash" of Tange and
Ishiwata tubing (both companies of which are out of business),
Rivendell likes to use tubing from Japan (Starlight) and Taiwan and I
think Vitus and Oria (french) tubing may still be available.

While of the highest quality, none of these builders will have a
tubing decal on the their mixed tubing frames. Remember, fit is more
important than frame material or specific tubing. However, if you find
a bike built with a particular tubing like Reynolds 853, its
definitely good.....