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  1. Pro is a race report of the 2004 US Pro championships in Philly. While it
    has a different flavor than World Cycling Video films it more or less is the
    same sort of thing.

    Jamie is coming right along on his film-making but if I was going to give
    him any advice it would be to lighten up a little. This is a SERIOUS race
    report from start to finish. Another thing might be for someone that isn't
    nearly so basso profundo to narate. Simmons definitely has a good naration
    voice but its more the sort that you'd expect behind a PBS film on mating
    otters. Jamie's voice is better suited to this sort of thing in my opinion.

    Eric Saunders and Chris Horner come right off the screen as real people so
    it is good that there is a good deal of them in the movie. Bobby Julich and
    Freddy Rodriguez are obvious PRO's with all capitals.

    I would hope that Jamie would make another film sort of on the lines of "On
    Any Sunday". He could film raod racing guys, MTB races, Cross racing with
    LOTS of mud or snow (bet Adam could give him some really good advice on
    that) and of course the fun riding is really where bike riding is at. The
    group ride up Mt. Diablo with some old guy trying to keep up with the young
    chicks at the top. Drinking coffee at the end of the ride or in the middle
    of it. Doing a cross ride. You know my cross bikes all have triples because
    I don't race them. I RIDE them. Poking up over the hills and down to the
    seashore, having to OOF! over that rise and seeing the plaque that states
    that "Captain Gaspar de Portola camped, October 31, 1769, by the creek at
    the south side of this valley, and to that camp scouting parties brought
    news of a body of water to the east. On November 4 the expedition advanced.
    Turning inland here, they climbed to the summit of Sweeney Ridge and beheld
    for the first time the bay of San Francisco."

    230 years later there we are seeing the bay through the break in the hills.

    Buy "Pro" and maybe Jamie'll be able to make another one less specialized.

  2. On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 04:16:10 GMT, "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Jamie is coming right along on his film-making but if I was going to give
    him any advice it would be to lighten up a little. This is a SERIOUS race
    report from start to finish.

    Paul and Phil mean to be serious, its just hard to keep a straight
    face when they occasionally launch into their, "this looks to be
    Rebellin, no wait, too tall, Maybe its... Oh, we're looking at the
    back of the main group and its not the breakaway at all" bits.
    Admittedly, they usually get it right and far better than I would, but
    they have their moments.

    I'm going to buy both films this week. Probably waste the money on
    bourbon or beer otherwise.

    Curtis L. Russell
    Odenton, MD (USA)
    Just someone on two wheels...

  3. "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    I would hope that Jamie would make another film sort of on the lines of
    "On Any Sunday". He could film raod racing guys, MTB races, Cross racing
    with

    As long as they don't give Robin Williams an equivalent role to Steve
    McQueen's.

  4. "Tom Kunich" wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    I would hope that Jamie would make another film sort of on the lines of


    "On

    Quoted message said:

    Any Sunday". He could film raod racing guys, MTB races, Cross racing with
    LOTS of mud or snow <snip>

    Hey, since I hear Jamie P. is starting a Masters team and will race with
    them next year, maybe he can make a movie about that too!!! Of course, it
    would have to be a comedy...

    Quoted message said:

    Buy "Pro" and maybe Jamie'll be able to make another one less specialized.

    My check is in the mail (sent to Erik of course ...btw, note the 'k', not
    'c'😉

    Mark

  5. "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<eGwrd.5779

    Quoted message said:

    I would hope that Jamie would make another film sort of on the lines of "On
    Any Sunday".

    okay i had to look it up. i thought you meant "any given sunday", in
    which case it would star al pacino as the d.s. of a doped up div I
    team, with dennis quaid as museeuw and colin farrell as vdb.

    anyways, thanks for the review.

  6. i thought both the hard road and pro were awesome documentories, im a little partial to pro, though, becuase i go to school in philly and have ridden all those roads alot.

  7. "Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    I would hope that Jamie would make another film sort of on the lines of
    "On Any Sunday". He could film raod racing guys, MTB races, Cross racing
    with

    As long as they don't give Robin Williams an equivalent role to Steve
    McQueen's.

    Steve used to race a lot. I raced with him at Willow Springs Raceway
    sometime around '68 if memory serves. I think that Steve had the [censored] scared
    out of him by road racing but he was pretty strong offroad.

    Don't knock Robin Williams. While in bicycling he's hardly in the catagory
    McQueen was in motorcycles he's still a full blown enthusiast and that's
    what these sorts of movies are trying to illustrate. It's really in the fun
    and not in the winning.

    Hell, I was just thinking the other day, in a world class 100 meter dash
    there are only three people in the world that can hope to win. No one else
    stands a chance unless those three fail.

    But in a one day Classic bike race, depending on conditions and luck, there
    are maybe 30-40 guys who could win. So if you finish in the top 10 you're a
    cycling God! Guys around here might make fun of Bobby Jullich on occasion
    but the man is a SUPER racer and bad luck or no what he's really been
    missing is the right breaks. Granted he might have made some of his own, but
    unless you have someone that can explain it to you at the right time when
    you're receptive you have to learn it all from experience and that takes
    time.

  8. "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I would hope that Jamie would make another film sort of on the lines of
    "On Any Sunday". He could film raod racing guys, MTB races, Cross racing
    with

    As long as they don't give Robin Williams an equivalent role to Steve
    McQueen's.

    Steve used to race a lot. I raced with him at Willow Springs Raceway
    sometime around '68 if memory serves. I think that Steve had the [censored]
    scared out of him by road racing but he was pretty strong offroad.

    Don't knock Robin Williams. While in bicycling he's hardly in the catagory
    McQueen was in motorcycles he's still a full blown enthusiast and that's
    what these sorts of movies are trying to illustrate. It's really in the
    fun and not in the winning.

    True, but as a somewhat unscripted documentary I just wouldn't want to see
    Williams feel compelled to turn it into another forum for his schtick. I'm
    not knocking his stuff, but for whatever reason, he didn't turn it off
    during his interview w/ Phil & Paul.

  9. "Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >
    > I would hope that Jamie would make another film sort of on the lines of
    > "On Any Sunday". He could film raod racing guys, MTB races, Cross
    > racing with

    As long as they don't give Robin Williams an equivalent role to Steve
    McQueen's.

    Steve used to race a lot. I raced with him at Willow Springs Raceway
    sometime around '68 if memory serves. I think that Steve had the [censored]
    scared out of him by road racing but he was pretty strong offroad.

    Don't knock Robin Williams. While in bicycling he's hardly in the
    catagory McQueen was in motorcycles he's still a full blown enthusiast
    and that's what these sorts of movies are trying to illustrate. It's
    really in the fun and not in the winning.

    True, but as a somewhat unscripted documentary I just wouldn't want to see
    Williams feel compelled to turn it into another forum for his schtick. I'm
    not knocking his stuff, but for whatever reason, he didn't turn it off
    during his interview w/ Phil & Paul.

    You're right that Mork was old a week after the program started. But I can't
    believe that a man with kids can act like the easter bunny ALL the time. I
    mean he's GOT to stop laying eggs sometime.

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