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  1. It seems to have become a cliche for restaurant reviewers to use the
    phrase "a well-aged steak" when the steak hasn't been aged at all.
    I know the difference between a dry-aged steak and an un-aged steak,
    and sometimes the chef himself doesn't seem to know.

    Another time, a reviewer described an undercooked potato as being
    overcooked. I've gone to these places and found the opposite of the
    food critic's opinion to be true.

    Do these people know what they're talking about?

    Do you have any other glaring errors in food writing?
    Thanks for letting me vent.

  2. [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:

    It seems to have become a cliche for restaurant reviewers to use the
    phrase "a well-aged steak" when the steak hasn't been aged at all.
    I know the difference between a dry-aged steak and an un-aged steak,
    and sometimes the chef himself doesn't seem to know.

    Another time, a reviewer described an undercooked potato as being
    overcooked. I've gone to these places and found the opposite of the
    food critic's opinion to be true.

    Do these people know what they're talking about?

    Do you have any other glaring errors in food writing?
    Thanks for letting me vent.

    Proof positive that anyone can be a critic! 😉

    Andy

  3. Quoted message said:

    Another time, a reviewer described an undercooked potato as being
    overcooked. I've gone to these places and found the opposite of the
    food critic's opinion to be true.

    Couldn't it have been one way when they went and another way when you went?
    I don't understand.

  4. Zippy P said:
    Quoted message said:

    Another time, a reviewer described an undercooked potato as being
    overcooked. I've gone to these places and found the opposite of the
    food critic's opinion to be true.

    Couldn't it have been one way when they went and another way when you went?
    I don't understand.

    No, because the restaurants/steak houses didn't advertise aged beef,
    which would have been a good selling point.
    The critics just made it up.

    I'm aware of day to day differences in food quality, staff, and
    management. I'm writing about food critics who can't tell the
    difference between frozen french fries and fresh and who think that
    fish has no flavor until it's at least a day old. (I've read that,
    too. My 85 year-old mother can smell the difference 10 feet away, why
    can't they)?

    If they have no taste buds, they have no business becoming food
    writers.

  5. On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:44:03 -0000, [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    It seems to have become a cliche for restaurant reviewers to use the
    phrase "a well-aged steak" when the steak hasn't been aged at all.
    I know the difference between a dry-aged steak and an un-aged steak,
    and sometimes the chef himself doesn't seem to know.

    Unfortunately, most times when somebody claims a steak has been
    aged, or that it is "aged beef", it has only been "wet-aged".
    Which just means it's been Cryovaced for at least 14 days (used
    to be 21 days).

    Dry-aging must be at least 10 days (USDA guidelines used to
    enforce a 35 day dry-age rule, but they of course caved in to
    meat packer demands, again).

    -sw

  6. email hidden said:

    It seems to have become a cliche for restaurant reviewers to use the
    phrase "a well-aged steak" when the steak hasn't been aged at all.
    I know the difference between a dry-aged steak and an un-aged steak,
    and sometimes the chef himself doesn't seem to know.

    Another time, a reviewer described an undercooked potato as being
    overcooked. I've gone to these places and found the opposite of the
    food critic's opinion to be true.

    Do these people know what they're talking about?

    Do you have any other glaring errors in food writing?
    Thanks for letting me vent.

    I don't know where you are, but here in the DFW region of Texas we
    have a decent new restaurant critic who has, beyond his writing and
    critical experience, a healthy dose of line cooking and restaurant
    work on his resume. I'm fairly confident he knows what he's talking
    about.

    (Full disclosure: I'm a critic, too. Art critic, not food critic, but
    it may have swayed my judgment.)
    --

    modom

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  7. On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 01:44:45 -0000, "[email hidden]"
    <[email hidden]> magnanimously proffered:

    Quoted message said:
    Zippy P said:
    Quoted message said:

    Another time, a reviewer described an undercooked potato as being
    overcooked. I've gone to these places and found the opposite of the
    food critic's opinion to be true.

    Couldn't it have been one way when they went and another way when you went?
    I don't understand.

    No, because the restaurants/steak houses didn't advertise aged beef,
    which would have been a good selling point.
    The critics just made it up.

    I'm aware of day to day differences in food quality, staff, and
    management. I'm writing about food critics who can't tell the
    difference between frozen french fries and fresh and who think that
    fish has no flavor until it's at least a day old. (I've read that,
    too. My 85 year-old mother can smell the difference 10 feet away, why
    can't they)?

    When I first came to Auckland I worked several part time jobs the
    first couple of years. One of them was in an upmarket retail fish shop
    called Jaybell's Seafood Bazaar. It was down on Auckland's waterfront
    and was the retail end of a huge fishing business - a joint venture
    between New Zealand and Japanese interests.

    In theory, the fish couldn't be fresher unless you caught them
    yourself. Jaybell's fishing fleet would pull up to the processing
    factory behind the retail store, unload (by that time the fish would
    already have been graded), and either processed for export (mostly to
    Japan to be flown out later that day) or for domestic consumption (our
    shop, other shops, restaurants, supermarkets, etc). Of course the
    weather sometimes made it impossible for the fleet to go out and
    frozen fish would be thawed out during the day. But it was always
    marked as having been frozen and customers informed of this.

    I worked the busy days (Thursday, Friday and Saturday) and, because
    I'd been made "assistant manager" and "weekend manager" I got to divvy
    up all fish that hadn't sold by the time we closed on Saturday to the
    other staff members at the shop. Even our cats got to dine on scallops
    from time to time - but that's another story.

    Anyway, there was this tiny woman in her seventies who used to come in
    several times a week to buy fish and when I was there she'd insist on
    me serving her. It was always the same routine and, if it was
    available, she'd invariably buy skinned & boned gurnard.

    First, she'd ask me if the fish had been frozen and if it was fresh.
    Then she'd ask if it had come in today. Since the answer was usually
    yes to all the questions, she'd then choose a couple of fillets. Then
    she'd ask for me to put them on the paper we used before we wrapped
    them and hold it up so she could smell each fillet. It was amazing.
    This woman could tell the difference between fish that had come in
    that morning or just a few hours later.

    As I got to know her and her ways, she stopped verbally asking me to
    smell the fish and would simply smile, wrinkle up her nose and I'd
    know what she meant. She really had me trained.

    One day I asked her if she'd like to try any of the other varieties of
    fish on offer and she answered, "Oh no ... kitty likes gurnard the
    best."

    So all this time she'd been buying the fish for her cat! She didn't
    even eat fish herself. "Can't stand it," she explained. "Never could."

    --

    una cerveza mas por favor ...

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Wax-up and drop-in of Surfing's Golden Years: <http://www.surfwriter.net>
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  8. On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 01:44:45 -0000, [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:
    Zippy P said:
    Quoted message said:

    Another time, a reviewer described an undercooked potato as being
    overcooked. I've gone to these places and found the opposite of the
    food critic's opinion to be true.

    Couldn't it have been one way when they went and another way when you went?
    I don't understand.

    No, because the restaurants/steak houses didn't advertise aged beef,
    which would have been a good selling point.
    The critics just made it up.

    Almost all steaks are aged - especially at steak houses.
    They're wet-aged though. The wet-aging allows the enzymes to
    break down the meat and make it more tender. Wet aging whole
    primal cuts is very simple to do in the supply chain and there's
    no good reason to circumvent that process unless the restaurant
    is raising cows in the pasture out back.

    Even the steaks in most supermarkets are wet-aged, at least to a
    certain degree - at least 7-10 days. So they choose to not
    advertise them as wet aged since sometimes they may not meet the
    minimum 14-day legal requirement.

    -sw

  9. Quoted message said:

    Do these people know what they're talking about?

    Only in interviews with editors.

    Quoted message said:

    Do you have any other glaring errors in food writing?
    Thanks for letting me vent.

    I have rec.food.cooking. It's a goldmine of such things.

    --Blair

  10. "Blair P. Houghton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Do these people know what they're talking about?

    Only in interviews with editors.

    Quoted message said:

    Do you have any other glaring errors in food writing?
    Thanks for letting me vent.

    I have rec.food.cooking. It's a goldmine of such things.

    --Blair

    Good one!

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    It seems to have become a cliche for restaurant reviewers to use the
    phrase "a well-aged steak" when the steak hasn't been aged at all.
    I know the difference between a dry-aged steak and an un-aged steak,
    and sometimes the chef himself doesn't seem to know.

    A "well aged steak" may just mean it's been in the cooler too long and
    they want to sell it before it walks away on its own.

    I think you're right. A lot of food critics just don't have the
    knowledge or experience for the job.

    --
    Peter Aitken

  12. On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:41:01 +1200, bob <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    When I first came to Auckland I worked several part time jobs the
    first couple of years. One of them was in an upmarket retail fish shop
    called Jaybell's Seafood Bazaar. It was down on Auckland's waterfront
    and was the retail end of a huge fishing business - a joint venture
    between New Zealand and Japanese interests.


    <rest of story nipped>

    this is too funny. i think the cat had her trained better than she
    had you.

    your pal,
    blake

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