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  1. Not sure if the following has ever been mentioned on here. I guess it
    could stand repeating though.

    I recently picked up a freebie mag about cycling in Greater Manchester.
    It is a fund of useful information, maps and useful links/phone numbers,
    etc., but a couple of things stood out to me, one of which I have
    already made use of.

    If you encounter problems with potholes, obstructions, etc, the Cyclists
    Touring Club has two websites that you can use to report the problem.
    They then report it to the relevant authority. Job done (In theory!).

    In both cases they use maps to enable you to zoom in on the exact spot.

    www.fillthathole.org.uk lets you log any road surface faults.

    www.clearthattrail.org.uk works in the same way for off-road routes.

    I've recently been defending my habit of riding on pavements
    occasionally to avoid problems with cycle lanes. Well, now I have no
    excuse to not report the problem and to get something done about it!

    I was really impressed with this magazine. They have a website at
    http://www.cyclegm.org.uk/ and the entire mag can be download as a pdf
    from the publications section. More power to the people behind it!

    Brian.

  2. "Brian Robert so n" <brianro@[nospam].com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Not sure if the following has ever been mentioned on here. I guess it
    could stand repeating though.

    I recently picked up a freebie mag about cycling in Greater Manchester. It
    is a fund of useful information, maps and useful links/phone numbers,
    etc., but a couple of things stood out to me, one of which I have already
    made use of.

    If you encounter problems with potholes, obstructions, etc, the Cyclists
    Touring Club has two websites that you can use to report the problem. They
    then report it to the relevant authority. Job done (In theory!).

    In both cases they use maps to enable you to zoom in on the exact spot.

    www.fillthathole.org.uk lets you log any road surface faults.

    www.clearthattrail.org.uk works in the same way for off-road routes.

    I've recently been defending my habit of riding on pavements occasionally
    to avoid problems with cycle lanes. Well, now I have no excuse to not
    report the problem and to get something done about it!

    I was really impressed with this magazine. They have a website at
    http://www.cyclegm.org.uk/ and the entire mag can be download as a pdf
    from the publications section. More power to the people behind it!

    Brian.

    If the only reason you're riding on the pavement is to avoid potholes in the
    cycle path, might I recommend the road as a perfectly acceptable
    alternative?

  3. Brian Robert so n [email protected] said:

    In both cases they use maps to enable you to zoom in on the exact spot.

    www.fillthathole.org.uklets you log any road surface faults.

    www.clearthattrail.org.ukworks in the same way for off-road routes.

    I think both have been mentioned on here a few times.

    Experiences seem to be mixed and many councils seem to be ignoring
    anything reported via either website however if you can find a similar
    thing on the local authority's website (or a phone number) it
    sometimes gets responded to.

    peter

  4. Budstaff said:

    "Brian Robert so n" <brianro@[nospam].com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Not sure if the following has ever been mentioned on here. I guess it
    could stand repeating though.

    I recently picked up a freebie mag about cycling in Greater Manchester. It
    is a fund of useful information, maps and useful links/phone numbers,
    etc., but a couple of things stood out to me, one of which I have already
    made use of.

    If you encounter problems with potholes, obstructions, etc, the Cyclists
    Touring Club has two websites that you can use to report the problem. They
    then report it to the relevant authority. Job done (In theory!).

    In both cases they use maps to enable you to zoom in on the exact spot.

    www.fillthathole.org.uk lets you log any road surface faults.

    www.clearthattrail.org.uk works in the same way for off-road routes.

    I've recently been defending my habit of riding on pavements occasionally
    to avoid problems with cycle lanes. Well, now I have no excuse to not
    report the problem and to get something done about it!

    I was really impressed with this magazine. They have a website at
    http://www.cyclegm.org.uk/ and the entire mag can be download as a pdf
    from the publications section. More power to the people behind it!

    Brian.

    If the only reason you're riding on the pavement is to avoid potholes in the
    cycle path, might I recommend the road as a perfectly acceptable
    alternative?

    Thanks. Might I recommend that you STFU?

    Brian.

  5. Brian Robert so n said:
    Budstaff said:

    If the only reason you're riding on the pavement is to avoid potholes in the
    cycle path, might I recommend the road as a perfectly acceptable
    alternative?

    Thanks. Might I recommend that you STFU?

    Of course everyone's free to make recommendations, but I think
    Budstaff's was much more sensible.

    --
    Danny Colyer <http://www.redpedals.co.uk>
    Reply address is valid, but that on my website is checked more often
    "The plural of anecdote is not data" - Frank Kotsonis

  6. In article <[email hidden]>, Brian Robert so
    n
    brianro@[nospam].com says...

    Quoted message said:

    I've recently been defending my habit of riding on pavements
    occasionally to avoid problems with cycle lanes.

    Trying to defend, perhaps, but you can't defend the indefensible.

  7. Rob Morley said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Brian Robert so
    n
    brianro@[nospam].com says...

    Quoted message said:

    I've recently been defending my habit of riding on pavements
    occasionally to avoid problems with cycle lanes.

    Trying to defend, perhaps, but you can't defend the indefensible.

    You can't educate the stupid either, so no point in trying with you.

    Brian.

  8. Brian Robert so n [email protected] said:
    Budstaff said:

    "Brian Robert so n" <brianro@[nospam].com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've recently been defending my habit of riding on pavements occasionally
    to avoid problems with cycle lanes. Well, now I have no excuse to not
    report the problem and to get something done about it!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If the only reason you're riding on the pavement is to avoid potholes in the
    cycle path, might I recommend the road as a perfectly acceptable
    alternative?

    Thanks. Might I recommend that you STFU?

    Was there any need for that? As has been pointed out here regularly, the
    road is generally safer than the pavement. As someone who cycled around
    Manchester for several years and never once used the pavement, I can
    recommend the roads.

    Cheers,
    Luke

    --
    Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
    exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>

  9. Brian Robert so n [email protected] said:
    Rob Morley said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Brian Robert so
    n
    brianro@[nospam].com says...

    Quoted message said:

    I've recently been defending my habit of riding on pavements
    occasionally to avoid problems with cycle lanes.

    Trying to defend, perhaps, but you can't defend the indefensible.

    You can't educate the stupid either, so no point in trying with you.

    You really appear to be quite an unpleasant individual. Might I suggest
    that you think more carefully before posting so that you come across as
    someone who doesn't belong in a killfile?

    Cheers,
    Luke

    --
    Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
    exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>

  10. Ekul Namsob said:
    Brian Robert so n [email protected] said:
    Budstaff said:

    "Brian Robert so n" <brianro@[nospam].com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I've recently been defending my habit of riding on pavements occasionally
    > to avoid problems with cycle lanes. Well, now I have no excuse to not
    > report the problem and to get something done about it!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If the only reason you're riding on the pavement is to avoid potholes in the
    cycle path, might I recommend the road as a perfectly acceptable
    alternative?


    Thanks. Might I recommend that you STFU?

    Was there any need for that? As has been pointed out here regularly, the
    road is generally safer than the pavement. As someone who cycled around
    Manchester for several years and never once used the pavement, I can
    recommend the roads.

    Cheers,
    Luke

    Well, what a shame that we can't all be perfect, like you.

    Brian.

  11. Brian Robert so n [email protected] said:
    Ekul Namsob said:
    Brian Robert so n [email protected] said:

    Budstaff wrote:
    > "Brian Robert so n" <brianro@[nospam].com> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    >> I've recently been defending my habit of riding on pavements
    >> occasionally to avoid problems with cycle lanes. Well, now I have no
    >> excuse to not report the problem and to get something done about it!

    Quoted message said:

    > If the only reason you're riding on the pavement is to avoid potholes
    > in the cycle path, might I recommend the road as a perfectly
    > acceptable alternative?
    >
    >
    Thanks. Might I recommend that you STFU?

    Was there any need for that? As has been pointed out here regularly, the
    road is generally safer than the pavement. As someone who cycled around
    Manchester for several years and never once used the pavement, I can
    recommend the roads.

    Quoted message said:

    Well, what a shame that we can't all be perfect, like you.

    You can be just as imperfect as me. I just obey laws: that does not, in
    any way, make me perfect. Perhaps if you open your mind to what others
    on this group, most a lot more experienced than I, have to say then you
    will learn something. If you don't want to learn something then feel
    free to tell others to 'STFU' as you put it. You will find yourself in a
    lot of killfiles in no time and then wasting your time by posting here.

    Ta ra,
    Luke

    --
    Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
    exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>

  12. In article <[email hidden]>, Brian Robert so n
    brianro@[nospam].com says...

    Quoted message said:
    Rob Morley said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Brian Robert so
    n
    brianro@[nospam].com says...

    Quoted message said:

    I've recently been defending my habit of riding on pavements
    occasionally to avoid problems with cycle lanes.

    Trying to defend, perhaps, but you can't defend the indefensible.

    You can't educate the stupid either, so no point in trying with you.


    I'm fine riding on the road, it's you that can't hack it.

  13. Rob Morley said the following on 15/02/2008 08:13:

    Quoted message said:

    I'm fine riding on the road, it's you that can't hack it.

    "Brian Robert so n" has already established on another thread that he
    doesn't know how to ride on the road, and he seems to think that despite
    the fact that he has clearly demonstrated this repeatedly that he
    doesn't need to change his ways. One day he will either end up under a
    left-turning lorry or be prosecuted for riding on the pavement.

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  14. Ekul Namsob said:
    Brian Robert so n [email protected] said:
    Ekul Namsob said:

    Brian Robert so n <brianro@[nospam].com> wrote:

    > Budstaff wrote:
    >> "Brian Robert so n" <brianro@[nospam].com> wrote in message
    >> news:[email hidden]...
    >>> I've recently been defending my habit of riding on pavements
    >>> occasionally to avoid problems with cycle lanes. Well, now I have no
    >>> excuse to not report the problem and to get something done about it!
    >> If the only reason you're riding on the pavement is to avoid potholes
    >> in the cycle path, might I recommend the road as a perfectly
    >> acceptable alternative?
    >>
    >>
    > Thanks. Might I recommend that you STFU?
    Was there any need for that? As has been pointed out here regularly, the
    road is generally safer than the pavement. As someone who cycled around
    Manchester for several years and never once used the pavement, I can
    recommend the roads.

    Quoted message said:

    Well, what a shame that we can't all be perfect, like you.

    You can be just as imperfect as me. I just obey laws: that does not, in
    any way, make me perfect. Perhaps if you open your mind to what others
    on this group, most a lot more experienced than I, have to say then you
    will learn something. If you don't want to learn something then feel
    free to tell others to 'STFU' as you put it. You will find yourself in a
    lot of killfiles in no time and then wasting your time by posting here.

    Ta ra,
    Luke

    I have no intention of learning anything from people who refuse to
    debate and who have a blinkered world vision! Nor have I any intention
    of learning anything from people who chase a topic from thread to
    thread, like dogs with their teeth into something.

    If you want to killfile me then please do so. I have nothing but
    contempt for those on usenet who seem to think that the whole internet
    revolves around their contribution and that others will be completely
    unable to function without their support.

    I will run through this once more for your benefit. On my regular cycle
    ride to and from work I crash certain red lights and ride on certain
    bits of pavement. I crash certain lights only when I am extremely
    familiar with them and only because it is my considered opinion that I
    am improving my safety whilst not making one jot of difference to the
    safety of others. I ride on pavements when they are free of pedestrians
    and where, once again, my safety is improved without compromising the
    safety of others. Nothing would induce me to cycle on a busy pavement,
    NOTHING! I don't even like to push my bike on a busy pavement due to the
    risk of catching people with the peddles.

    At all times I give way to any animal or person who is more vulnerable
    than I am. My speed whenever I am around pedestrians is such that I can
    stop on a sixpence and have successfully done so on many occasions when
    pedestrians have wandered out in front of me on the road.

    I can confidently say that, despite my breaches of the letter of the
    law, the only places that I am likely to come into collision with a
    pedestrian are on the cycle lanes where I am perfectly entitled to be. I
    can also say with absolute honesty that, in almost all cases, I ride to
    the letter of the law and heed every bit of advice that I can get my
    hands on as regards my personal safety. Under normal circumstances I am
    a stickler for laws, even minor ones.

    On the flip side of my TERRIBLE illegal cycling, we have motorists
    trying to mow us down, cycle lanes that are overgrown, green cycle boxes
    at lights that motorists ignore, traffic lights that bikes don't
    operate, temporary lights that are not timed for bikes, and cycle lanes
    on pavements that have blurred the issue to a ridicules degree, just to
    name a few of the hazards that we all encounter everyday.

    Brian.

  15. Paul Boyd said:

    Rob Morley said the following on 15/02/2008 08:13:

    Quoted message said:

    I'm fine riding on the road, it's you that can't hack it.

    "Brian Robert so n" has already established on another thread that he
    doesn't know how to ride on the road, and he seems to think that despite
    the fact that he has clearly demonstrated this repeatedly that he
    doesn't need to change his ways. One day he will either end up under a
    left-turning lorry or be prosecuted for riding on the pavement.

    Then when that happens it happens. Such is life. I'm sure it won't
    bother you or ruin your cycling experience, so what the hell?

    Brian.

  16. Rob Morley said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Brian Robert so n
    brianro@[nospam].com says...

    Quoted message said:
    Rob Morley said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Brian Robert so
    n
    brianro@[nospam].com says...

    > I've recently been defending my habit of riding on pavements
    > occasionally to avoid problems with cycle lanes.
    Trying to defend, perhaps, but you can't defend the indefensible.


    You can't educate the stupid either, so no point in trying with you.


    I'm fine riding on the road, it's you that can't hack it.

    I do a ten mile commute most days of the week when, with the help of
    cycle lanes, I pass through just 4 sets of lights, one of which,
    depending on the time of day, I will crash on one of its sequences. I do
    so in the certain knowledge that all conflicting routes for cars and
    pedestrians are on red.

    Of this ten miles of cycling I ride on pavement for perhaps 100 yards at
    the end of an official cycle lane where I consider it is dangerous to
    rejoin the traffic and where you rarely, if ever, meet a pedestrian. If
    I did meet someone, it is on a steep hill, my speed would probably be
    around 4 m.p.h. and the pavement is wide enough to fit several bikes on
    and still avoid pedestrians.

    Neither of the these breaches of the law are carried out through
    laziness or a desire to arrive 30 seconds early. They are for my
    increased safety.

    Brian.

  17. Brian Robert so n [email protected] said:
    Ekul Namsob said:
    Brian Robert so n [email protected] said:

    Ekul Namsob wrote:
    > Brian Robert so n <brianro@[nospam].com> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> Thanks. Might I recommend that you STFU?
    > Was there any need for that? As has been pointed out here regularly, the
    > road is generally safer than the pavement. As someone who cycled around
    > Manchester for several years and never once used the pavement, I can
    > recommend the roads.

    Quoted message said:

    Well, what a shame that we can't all be perfect, like you.

    You can be just as imperfect as me. I just obey laws: that does not, in
    any way, make me perfect. Perhaps if you open your mind to what others
    on this group, most a lot more experienced than I, have to say then you
    will learn something. If you don't want to learn something then feel
    free to tell others to 'STFU' as you put it. You will find yourself in a
    lot of killfiles in no time and then wasting your time by posting here.

    Quoted message said:

    I have no intention of learning anything from people who refuse to
    debate and who have a blinkered world vision!

    Likewise.

    Quoted message said:

    Nor have I any intention
    of learning anything from people who chase a topic from thread to
    thread, like dogs with their teeth into something.

    Sorry, I'm not with you.

    Quoted message said:

    If you want to killfile me then please do so. I have nothing but
    contempt for those on usenet who seem to think that the whole internet
    revolves around their contribution and that others will be completely
    unable to function without their support.

    Is that why you recommended that a polite poster should STFU?

    Thanks for posting what followed (and which I've snipped).

    Cheers,
    Luke

    --
    Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
    exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>

  18. Brian Robert so n [email protected] said:
    Rob Morley said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Brian Robert so n
    brianro@[nospam].com says...

    Quoted message said:

    Rob Morley wrote:
    > In article <[email hidden]>, Brian Robert so
    > n
    > brianro@[nospam].com says...
    >
    >> I've recently been defending my habit of riding on pavements
    >> occasionally to avoid problems with cycle lanes.
    > Trying to defend, perhaps, but you can't defend the indefensible.
    You can't educate the stupid either, so no point in trying with you.


    I'm fine riding on the road, it's you that can't hack it.

    I do a ten mile commute most days of the week when, with the help of
    cycle lanes, I pass through just 4 sets of lights, one of which,
    depending on the time of day, I will crash on one of its sequences. I do
    so in the certain knowledge that all conflicting routes for cars and
    pedestrians are on red.

    What about those pedestrians who choose to ignore the red light, safe in
    the certain knowledge that all conflicting routes for motorists and
    cyclists are on red?

    Cheers,
    Luke

    --
    Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
    exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>

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