Reply from Cisco!

Max Mustermann said:

Excerpt from letter received from Cisco:

Funny, Max posts from the same place as Nomen, and like
Nomen, even changes the subject line.

mtravelkay <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

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Max Mustermann said:

Excerpt from letter received from Cisco:

Funny, Max posts from the same place as Nomen, and like
Nomen, even changes the subject line.

Nomen Nescio isn't a person, it's an anonymous remailer that
trolls enjoy using to post anonymously.

Some people know how to configure their headers to get a
name in it, but if the server doesn't get the command, it
posts as Nomen Nescio.

Max Mustermann <[email hidden]> tap, tap, tapped out in
:"]news:[email hidden]:

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Excerpt from letter received from Cisco:

So why did you deem it necessary to troll 6 newsgroups with
this person's alleged personal information? Any case you may
have had against him just flew out the door with your post.
You also look like a Net Nanny wandering Usenet. Hiding
behind a remailer becomes you.

Michael
--
Deathbed statement...

"Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
December 12, 1968

Cross-posting moron.

"Max Mustermann" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message -"]news:[email hidden]-
ge.info...

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Excerpt from letter received from Cisco:

Dear _____,

Thank you for your letter concerning our employee
Michael Voight.

We are aware of the situation and have received numerous
complaints about

his

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usenet posts from work.

We take abuse by our employees very seriously. While we
do provide

Internet

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access to our employees, we expect them to behave
professionally and not

abuse

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the privilege.

We have initiated an investigation into Mr. Voight's
Internet activities.

His

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department manager and others concerned have been alerted
about the

situation,

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and his Internet use is being monitored.

We appreciate the time you have taken to bring this to our
attention and

we

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apologize for our employee's behavior. Rest assured we
will do everything possible to correct the situation.

--------------------------------------

Keep those complaints to Cisco coming, folks! It's
working!

About Rogue Cisco Employee Michael "mrtravelkay" Voight,
a.k.a. the "mrtravel" Netkook Troll/Usenet Flooder

***WARNING: THIS IDIOT HAS BEEN CAUGHT FORGING PEOPLE'S
IDENTITIES ON

USENET

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AND CANCELLING THEIR POSTS.***

"mrtavelkay" is the latest usenet handle of a brainless
troll whose real

name is

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Michael Voight, email <[email hidden]>.

He is better known by his previous stupid handle,
"mrtravel".

The idiot works for Cisco in San Jose and apparently they
don't keep him busy enough so he has to troll usenet when
he isn't looking for foreign brides to marry in exchange
for money in alt.visa.us.marriage-based and alt.personals.big-
folks, or trying to pick up minors in alt.personals.teens
or any of the number of creepy newsgroups he frequents.
Some of his other trolling aliases are Network Guy,
[email hidden], sleepydoc
<[email hidden]>,

jlhunt

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<[email hidden]>, and Lost 5 of 8
<[email hidden]>, mrt

<[email hidden]>,

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news.sf.sbcglobal.net <[email hidden]>, not-nomen
<[email hidden]>,<[email hidden]>, David Tanner
<[email hidden]>, Jeff Davies <[email hidden]>,
BobTheBuilder <[email hidden]>.

All intelligent members of the usenet community have
killfiled him, so he

takes

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great pains to get past their killfiles by rubbing his
only two cerebral

neurons

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together and coming up with gems like: mrtrav
<[email hidden]>,

mrtrav3

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<[email hidden]>, mrraveltay <[email hidden]>,
and mrtravelkay <[email hidden]>, and mtravelkay
<[email hidden]> and <""a.a\"@a,a,a>. The lastest product
of his brain diarrhea is Bill Clarkj
<[email hidden]>.

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His phone numbers are 831-295-3628 and 831-252-2606.

He's got a daughter in Orange County that one of his ex-
wives had the intelligence to take away from him. Lord
only knows what could have happened to her if she had
continued to live with the kook. The other

kids

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he has belong to his previous Russian sleazy brides, and
since they come and go so do the kids. It wouldn't hurt to
let Cisco know what kind of

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For starters, forward his idiotic posts to
[email hidden] .

He works in technical support, so forward them to
[email hidden] .

He often posts through sbcglobal and prodigy, so forward
them to [email hidden] and [email hidden] as well.

You can also call them at 1 800 553 2447 and ask to
speak with a

supervisor

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and explain that you are EXTREMELY unhappy that this idiot
spends his

whole

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day at work playing on the internet on company time. THEY
WILL NOT LIKE THAT.

Then write to corporate headquarters explaining what this
idiot is doing and telling them HOW BAD IT IS FOR THEIR
COMPANY IMAGE. They will LOVE that you brought this to
their attention:

Cisco Systems, Inc. 170 West Tasman Dr. San Jose, CA
95134 USA

Then also call them. You should always follow up email or
letters with phone calls. Always ask for supervisors or
managers. Try to get as far

up

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as possible.

(408)526-4000
(800)553-NETS or
(800)553-6387

Contact Investor Relations and tell them you are
interested in investing

in

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their company but won't do so until they get rid of this
[censored] who is wasting company resources:

Cisco Systems, Inc. Investor Relations Department 170 West
Tasman Drive San Jose, CA 95134-1706 Phone: (408) 526-8890
Fax: (408) 526-4545 Email: [email hidden]

Might as well contact customer service too, they LOVE to
hear about this type of stuff:

USA 1 800 553 6387

[email hidden] [email hidden]

Then finally, send letters with copies of his nasty posts
addressed personally to each one of the OFFICERS of the
company using the headquarters address. Believe me, they
READ your complaints and are VERY INTERESTED in them,
especially if it's about one of their employees. They
will take a PERSONAL interest in rooting this [censored] out
of their

company:

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John Morgridge, Chairman John Chambers, President, CEO
Donald Valentine, Vice Chairman Larry Carter, CFO, Sr. VP-
Fin. and Admin., Sec., Director Richard Justice, Sr. VP,
Worldwide Field Operations

Have fun!

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 12:08:58 -0000, Dog3

dognospam@adjfkdla;not said:

You also look like a Net Nanny wandering Usenet.

I hope you meant "look like you NEED a Net Nanny". If not,
I'm hopelessly confused about the meaning of the term.

Practice safe eating - always use condiments

"> Excerpt from letter received from Cisco:

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Dear _____,

Thank you for your letter concerning our employee
Michael Voight.

<snip [censored]>

If your vendetta is valid against this guy, why do you try
to hide your own identity. Nobody takes a complaint
seriously unless the complainent is willing to identify
him/herself. Can you imagine a court of law where witness
statements are made anonymously? So come on, if your gripe
is real identify yourself..

Paul H. said:

Cross-posting moron.

And you are somehow more intelligent by including his 150
lines of tripe only to state the obvious?
--
It's not hard to meet expenses, they're everywhere.

Paul H. said:

Cross-posting moron.

Top-posting moron who does not trim posts.

--
John Gaughan johngaughan.netjohngaughan.netOpen ↗
[email hidden]

Paul H. said:

Cross-posting moron.

"Max Mustermann" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message -"]news:[email hidden]-
age.info...

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Excerpt from letter received from Cisco:

Snip

Which kind of moron is worse? One who crossposts 150 lines
of drivel, or one who RE-CROSSPOSTS 150 lines of drivel only
to add three words?

sf <[email hidden]> poured a drink and posted
:"]news:[email hidden]:

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On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 12:08:58 -0000, Dog3

dognospam@adjfkdla;not said:

You also look like a Net Nanny wandering Usenet.

I hope you meant "look like you NEED a Net Nanny". If not,
I'm hopelessly confused about the meaning of the term.

Practice safe eating - always use condiments

A net nanny is typically someone that is immature or
someone that is so sensitive about any number of topics,
they should never set a finger on usenet. In this
particular case, the troll apparently does not care for
what the mark posts or where he/she posts it. The troll
then proceeds to become, in stalker fashion, a net nanny
that tries to get the mark censored by his/her ISP. It
tries to humiliate the mark. When all else fails, the
immature troll begins digging up and posting personal
information about the mark in public forums. Sometimes this
can become a serious issue in real life as well. I believe
our coward hiding behind the remailer is a twisted
individual hell bent on some type of revenge. Unfortunately
for the remailer person, they believe they are safe and
untraceable behind the remailer. This is a falsehood which
gives these type of people a stupid sense of security.

Michael
--
Deathbed statement...

"Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
December 12, 1968

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 09:35:08 -0700, "Paul H." <[email hidden]>

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Cross-posting moron.

Top-posting, non-quote-trimming moron.

--
Friends don't let friends shop at Best Buy.

PENMART01 said:

John Gaughan is a crossposting NEWBIE piece of [censored].

--
John Gaughan johngaughan.netjohngaughan.netOpen ↗
[email hidden]

You people are all pathetic. All you're doing is continuing
to waste the time of all of us who come to this newsgroup
for good advice. Thanks alot for 3 minutes of useless
information.

"freeda" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

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"> Excerpt from letter received from Cisco:

Quoted message said:

Dear _____,

Thank you for your letter concerning our employee
Michael Voight.

<snip [censored]>

If your vendetta is valid against this guy, why do you try
to hide your

own

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identity. Nobody takes a complaint seriously unless the
complainent is willing to identify him/herself. Can you
imagine a court of law where witness statements are made
anonymously? So come on, if your gripe is real identify
yourself..

Ken Maritza said:

You people are all pathetic. All you're doing is
continuing to waste the time of all of us who come to this
newsgroup for good advice. Thanks alot for 3 minutes of
useless information.

And what, praytell, compelled you to read this thread at
all? Are we really pathetic or aren't you really as pathetic
for wasting your own time by consciously deciding to read
this thread in the first place? (Pot, meet kettle, black,
'nuff said).

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 00:19:29 -0000, Dog3

dognospam@adjfkdla;not said:

sf <[email hidden]> poured a drink and posted
:"]news:[email hidden]:

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On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 12:08:58 -0000, Dog3

dognospam@adjfkdla;not said:

You also look like a Net Nanny wandering Usenet.

I hope you meant "look like you NEED a Net Nanny". If
not, I'm hopelessly confused about the meaning of the
term.

Practice safe eating - always use condiments

A net nanny is typically someone that is immature or
someone that is so sensitive about any number of topics,
they should never set a finger on usenet.

Hmmmm. The last time I looked Net Nanny was the name of a
parental control program. This is the first hit on Google:
netlingo.comlookup.cfmOpen ↗

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In this particular case, the troll apparently does not
care for what the mark posts or where he/she posts it.
The troll then proceeds to become, in stalker fashion, a
net nanny that tries to get the mark censored by his/her
ISP. It tries to humiliate the mark. When all else fails,
the immature troll begins digging up and posting personal
information about the mark in public forums. Sometimes
this can become a serious issue in real life as well. I
believe our coward hiding behind the remailer is a
twisted individual hell bent on some type of revenge.
Unfortunately for the remailer person, they believe they
are safe and untraceable behind the remailer. This is a
falsehood which gives these type of people a stupid sense
of security.

Thanks for the explanation, but that person sounds more
like a net stalker than a troll to me. A nanny is a
glorified babysitter and I don't associate the idea of
stalking with "nanny".

Practice safe eating - always use condiments

Ken Maritza said:

You people are all pathetic. All you're doing is continuing
to waste the time of all of us who come to this newsgroup
for good advice. Thanks alot for 3 minutes of useless
information.

"freeda" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

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"> Excerpt from letter received from Cisco:

Quoted message said:

Dear _____,

Thank you for your letter concerning our employee
Michael Voight.

<snip [censored]>

If your vendetta is valid against this guy, why do you
try to hide your

own

Quoted message said:

identity. Nobody takes a complaint seriously unless the
complainent is willing to identify him/herself. Can you
imagine a court of law where witness statements are made
anonymously? So come on, if your gripe is real identify
yourself..

Why did you choose to waste three minutes on obvious [censored]?
Why do you blame others for poor choices you make?

"Ken Maritza" <[email hidden]> poured a drink and posted
:"]news:[email hidden]:

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You people are all pathetic. All you're doing is
continuing to waste the time of all of us who come to this
newsgroup for good advice. Thanks alot for 3 minutes of
useless information.

SF, the post above was top posted and in typical net nanny
style. Ken apparently does not approve of the posting he is
reading. So instead of kill filing what he does not care to
read he complains and whines about it. Very net nanny
style. Nothing personl Ken, I'm just trying to explain
something to sf.

Michael
--
Deathbed statement...

"Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
December 12, 1968

sf <[email hidden]> poured a drink and posted
:"]news:[email hidden]:

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Hmmmm. The last time I looked Net Nanny was the name of a
parental control program. This is the first hit on Google:
netlingo.comlookup.cfmOpen ↗

I'm well aware of the software. I've been using Usenet since
1980 or before. Net Nanny is a phrase coined by the old
timers to indicate a poster would like to censor another
poster. The software was introduced many, many years after
the phrase was being used.

Michael

--
Deathbed statement...

"Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
December 12, 1968

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 12:54:01 -0000, Dog3

dognospam@adjfkdla;not said:

sf <[email hidden]> poured a drink and posted
:"]news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Hmmmm. The last time I looked Net Nanny was the name of
a parental control program. This is the first hit on
Google:
netlingo.comlookup.cfmOpen ↗

I'm well aware of the software. I've been using Usenet
since 1980 or before. Net Nanny is a phrase coined by the
old timers to indicate a poster would like to censor
another poster. The software was introduced many, many
years after the phrase was being used.

Thanks for your perdigree, but you still haven't cleared up
my confusion about your choice of terms. Why are you calling
the person who should be censored and needs a net nanny, a
net nanny? I still don't get it.

Practice safe eating - always use condiments