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  1. We have an old tandem with mafac type cantilevers. They don't have any
    toe-in adjustment on them and it is impossible to get one of the front
    pads anywhere near parallel to the rim let alone toed-in properly.
    Maybe the boss is slightly skewed although it looks ok.

    As I have a spare pair of V-brakes (and lever) I tried fitting them.
    The problem is that the pin holes on the bosses where the spring is
    inserted seem to be in the wrong position for the v-brakes. Once the
    spring has been inserted into the hole the brake has to rotated
    through 270 degrees to get it vertical which is impossible. (Looking
    from the front the hole is at 9 o'clock position on the left hand fork
    and 3 o'clock on the right. The v-brakes have the spring pin at 6
    o'clock position).

    Has anyone come across this problem? Any suggestions?

  2. chrisg said the following on 30/08/2007 16:22:

    Quoted message said:

    Looking
    from the front the hole is at 9 o'clock position on the left hand fork
    and 3 o'clock on the right. The v-brakes have the spring pin at 6
    o'clock position).

    That sounds wrong! The holes should be on the wheel side of the
    mounting (inside the fork) rather than outside, which is what it sounds
    like you're saying. If the holes really are on the outside, then the
    bosses have been fitted incorrectly. V's and cantis should be
    interchangeable - I changed to Vs from cantis not so long ago and it was
    just a bolt-on job.

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  3. Paul Boyd usenet.is.worse@plusnet said:

    chrisg said the following on 30/08/2007 16:22:

    Quoted message said:

    Looking
    from the front the hole is at 9 o'clock position on the left hand fork
    and 3 o'clock on the right. The v-brakes have the spring pin at 6
    o'clock position).

    That sounds wrong! The holes should be on the wheel side of the
    mounting (inside the fork) rather than outside, which is what it sounds
    like you're saying. If the holes really are on the outside, then the
    bosses have been fitted incorrectly. V's and cantis should be
    interchangeable - I changed to Vs from cantis not so long ago and it was
    just a bolt-on job.

    --
    Paul Boydhttp://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

    Yes, the holes are on the outside but are obviously in the correct
    position for the mafacs.

    It is quite an old tandem, I guess 20-25 years old. Maybe things have
    standardised more since then.

    Chris

  4. chrisg said:

    As I have a spare pair of V-brakes (and lever) I tried fitting them.
    The problem is that the pin holes on the bosses where the spring is
    inserted seem to be in the wrong position for the v-brakes. Once the
    spring has been inserted into the hole the brake has to rotated
    through 270 degrees to get it vertical which is impossible.

    Can you swap the springs around on the V-brakes?

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,
    chrisg
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    We have an old tandem with mafac type cantilevers. They don't have any
    toe-in adjustment on them and it is impossible to get one of the front
    pads anywhere near parallel to the rim let alone toed-in properly.
    Maybe the boss is slightly skewed although it looks ok.

    To toe in Mafacs, place a large screwdriver or similar bar between the
    two plates and tweak. Brutal, but it usually works.

    Quoted message said:


    As I have a spare pair of V-brakes (and lever) I tried fitting them.
    The problem is that the pin holes on the bosses where the spring is
    inserted seem to be in the wrong position for the v-brakes. Once the
    spring has been inserted into the hole the brake has to rotated
    through 270 degrees to get it vertical which is impossible. (Looking
    from the front the hole is at 9 o'clock position on the left hand fork
    and 3 o'clock on the right. The v-brakes have the spring pin at 6
    o'clock position).

    Has anyone come across this problem? Any suggestions?


    Sounds strange to me - as if the bosses are on the wrong sides. You
    might be able to remove the adjusting plates from the brakes and drill
    new spring anchor holes in a more appropriate position.

  6. PDannyD said:
    chrisg said:

    As I have a spare pair of V-brakes (and lever) I tried fitting them.
    The problem is that the pin holes on the bosses where the spring is
    inserted seem to be in the wrong position for the v-brakes. Once the
    spring has been inserted into the hole the brake has to rotated
    through 270 degrees to get it vertical which is impossible.

    Can you swap the springs around on the V-brakes?

    The spring prongs are at 12 o'clock (inside) and 6 o'clock (outside)
    so swapping or rotating isn't possible.

    Chris

  7. Rob Morley said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    chrisg
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    We have an old tandem with mafac type cantilevers. They don't have any
    toe-in adjustment on them and it is impossible to get one of the front
    pads anywhere near parallel to the rim let alone toed-in properly.
    Maybe the boss is slightly skewed although it looks ok.

    To toe in Mafacs, place a large screwdriver or similar bar between the
    two plates and tweak. Brutal, but it usually works.

    Quoted message said:

    As I have a spare pair of V-brakes (and lever) I tried fitting them.
    The problem is that the pin holes on the bosses where the spring is
    inserted seem to be in the wrong position for the v-brakes. Once the
    spring has been inserted into the hole the brake has to rotated
    through 270 degrees to get it vertical which is impossible. (Looking
    from the front the hole is at 9 o'clock position on the left hand fork
    and 3 o'clock on the right. The v-brakes have the spring pin at 6
    o'clock position).

    Quoted message said:

    Has anyone come across this problem? Any suggestions?

    Sounds strange to me - as if the bosses are on the wrong sides. You
    might be able to remove the adjusting plates from the brakes and drill
    new spring anchor holes in a more appropriate position.

    Good idea - if I can find a small enough drill bit I'll give it a go.

    Cheers,

    Chris

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