Relics from a distant age.

a person known to the world as 'Simon Mason said:

Century old photos from a local free paper.

1) "Dooring" incidents are not a new phenomenon.

Ha ha - nor is cutting down the inside!

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In article said:

Century old photos from a local free paper.

1) "Dooring" incidents are not a new phenomenon.

The cyclist doesn't look worried. The door could have been opened when
no-one was approaching. If that crane/lift thing is really on that vehicle
and working on the overhead wires, it could have been there some time.

Simon Mason said:

Century old photos from a local free paper.

1) "Dooring" incidents are not a new phenomenon.

2) Early "recumbents" on display.

3) My commute a century ago. Note complete lack of cars.

Is it just me or are the trams driving on the right?

Simon Mason said:

Century old photos from a local free paper.

1) "Dooring" incidents are not a new phenomenon.

2) Early "recumbents" on display.

3) My commute a century ago. Note complete lack of cars.

http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/zold.htm

Aaah, but at least there are no tram rails to get stuck in anymore 🙂.

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MartinM popped their head over the parapet saw what was going on and
said

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Simon Mason said:

Century old photos from a local free paper.

1) "Dooring" incidents are not a new phenomenon.

2) Early "recumbents" on display.

3) My commute a century ago. Note complete lack of cars.

Is it just me or are the trams driving on the right?

On most trams they were the same front and back
(you (TINY) are bound to have seen the chairs on
the top deck that have movable backs so that instead
of turning the tram they just run it 'backwards'😉. So
perhaps the tram that looks like it is coming towards
you on the right is actually going away from you and
the person in the uniform is not actually the driver.

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GeoffC [email hidden] opined the following...

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Aaah, but at least there are no tram rails to get stuck in anymore 🙂.

Despite a reasonable amount of cycling in a city with trams (Sheffield),
I never actually fell into a tram track. Probably because I was so
terrified of doing so that I always crossed them perpendicular and never
cycled too close to them.

Jon

On 30/9/04 10:54 pm, a person known to the world as "Jon Senior"

jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOTco_DOT_uk said:

Despite a reasonable amount of cycling in a city with trams (Sheffield),
I never actually fell into a tram track. Probably because I was so
terrified of doing so that I always crossed them perpendicular and never
cycled too close to them.

I fell foul of them twice whilst living in Leipzig, and nearly went under a
tram in Bratislava once. Not that any of the bloody Slovakians gave a
monkey's, mind. They seemed to think it was great fun.

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Jon Senior said:

GeoffC [email hidden] opined the following...

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Aaah, but at least there are no tram rails to get stuck in anymore
🙂.

Despite a reasonable amount of cycling in a city with trams
(Sheffield), I never actually fell into a tram track. Probably
because I was so terrified of doing so that I always crossed them
perpendicular and never cycled too close to them.

Yes I lived for 5 years in a town with trams and I was equally terrified of
the tram rails. One street had a stretch of about 500m with just 50cm
between the rail and the kerb and I was highly impressed how my wife calmly
sailed through (with me on the back and a fair bit of shopping) with nary a
wobble.

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Jon Senior <jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOTco_DOT_uk> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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GeoffC [email hidden] opined the following...

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Aaah, but at least there are no tram rails to get stuck in anymore 🙂.

Despite a reasonable amount of cycling in a city with trams (Sheffield),
I never actually fell into a tram track.

For the last year-and-a-half or so of my degree course at Sheffield,
Supertram was up and running, and I never had any bike-related
problems either.

David E. Belcher

Jon Senior said:

GeoffC [email hidden] opined the following...

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Aaah, but at least there are no tram rails to get stuck in anymore

🙂.

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Despite a reasonable amount of cycling in a city with trams

(Sheffield),

Quoted message said:

I never actually fell into a tram track. Probably because I was so
terrified of doing so that I always crossed them perpendicular and

never

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cycled too close to them.

Jon

I had a crash on Christmas Day 1990 in Melbourne due to getting caught
in the tram tracks. The amount of alcohol in my blood probably had a
contributory factor too.

GeoffC said:

Jon Senior said:

GeoffC [email hidden] opined the following...

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Aaah, but at least there are no tram rails to get stuck in anymore
🙂.

Despite a reasonable amount of cycling in a city with trams
(Sheffield), I never actually fell into a tram track. Probably
because I was so terrified of doing so that I always crossed them
perpendicular and never cycled too close to them.

Yes I lived for 5 years in a town with trams and I was equally terrified of
the tram rails. One street had a stretch of about 500m with just 50cm
between the rail and the kerb and I was highly impressed how my wife calmly
sailed through (with me on the back and a fair bit of shopping) with nary a
wobble.

I lived in a city with trams for 5 years. No problems, even when there was a
nice layer of frost on the tracks..

It does require thinking about though, you can't just expect everything to
be fine if you try to cross them at narrow angles..

...d

soup said:

MartinM popped their head over the parapet saw what was going on and
said

Quoted message said:

Simon Mason said:

Century old photos from a local free paper.

1) "Dooring" incidents are not a new phenomenon.

2) Early "recumbents" on display.

3) My commute a century ago. Note complete lack of cars.

Is it just me or are the trams driving on the right?

On most trams they were the same front and back
(you (TINY) are bound to have seen the chairs on
the top deck that have movable backs so that instead
of turning the tram they just run it 'backwards'😉

Yep in Blackpool many moons ago

.. So

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perhaps the tram that looks like it is coming towards
you on the right is actually going away from you and
the person in the uniform is not actually the driver.

Yes there are stairs at both ends, and there is a driver in the middle
of the one on the right, my mistake.

Does anyone remember the Bradford trolleybuses? apparently only got
ride of in the miner's strike of 84/5.
Have only ever seen a TB in Russia.

MartinM said:

soup said:

MartinM popped their head over the parapet saw what was going on and
said

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Simon Mason wrote:
> Century old photos from a local free paper.
>
> 1) "Dooring" incidents are not a new phenomenon.
>
> 2) Early "recumbents" on display.
>
> 3) My commute a century ago. Note complete lack of cars.
Is it just me or are the trams driving on the right?

On most trams they were the same front and back
(you (TINY) are bound to have seen the chairs on
the top deck that have movable backs so that instead
of turning the tram they just run it 'backwards'😉

Yep in Blackpool many moons ago

. So

Quoted message said:

perhaps the tram that looks like it is coming towards
you on the right is actually going away from you and
the person in the uniform is not actually the driver.

Yes there are stairs at both ends, and there is a driver in the middle
of the one on the right, my mistake.

Does anyone remember the Bradford trolleybuses? apparently only got
ride of in the miner's strike of 84/5.
Have only ever seen a TB in Russia.

They have 'em in Arnhem, NL too.

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Geoff

In article <[email hidden]>,

David Martin said:

I lived in a city with trams for 5 years. No problems, even when there was a
nice layer of frost on the tracks..

I've lived in two cities with trams. One was a problem, the other wasn't.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=cta9l8.551.ln%40sleipnir.webthing.com

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Jon Senior said:

Despite a reasonable amount of cycling in a city with trams
(Sheffield), I never actually fell into a tram track. Probably
because I was so terrified of doing so that I always crossed them
perpendicular and never cycled too close to them.

I managed to get the left wheel of my Trice stuck in a tram track in Ghent
earlier this year, as the distance 'twixt tram track and kerb was precisely
the track of the trike. I had tobail out and lift it clear. Bah!

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MartinM said:

Does anyone remember the Bradford trolleybuses?

I was brought up in Huddersfield, we, like Bradford, had trolleybuses.

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apparently only got
ride of in the miner's strike of 84/5.

A myth, probably perpetuated by southerners who think we all have whippets
and wear flat caps. They ended their service in 1972, though it was the
last trolley bus service in the UK.

http://www.sandtoft.org.uk/bta.htm

Colin

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MartinM said:

Does anyone remember the Bradford trolleybuses?

I was brought up in Huddersfield, we, like Bradford, had trolleybuses.

I remember trolleybuses in Edinburgh, and I *think* I remember them in
London (but I'd have been under four, and may be confusing the memory
with memories of Edinburgh).

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GeoffC said:

MartinM said:

soup said:

MartinM popped their head over the parapet saw what was going on

and

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said
> Simon Mason wrote:
>> Century old photos from a local free paper.
>>
>> 1) "Dooring" incidents are not a new phenomenon.
>>
>> 2) Early "recumbents" on display.
>>
>> 3) My commute a century ago. Note complete lack of cars.
> Is it just me or are the trams driving on the right?

On most trams they were the same front and back
(you (TINY) are bound to have seen the chairs on
the top deck that have movable backs so that instead
of turning the tram they just run it 'backwards'😉

Yep in Blackpool many moons ago

. So

Quoted message said:

perhaps the tram that looks like it is coming towards
you on the right is actually going away from you and
the person in the uniform is not actually the driver.

Yes there are stairs at both ends, and there is a driver in the

middle

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of the one on the right, my mistake.

Does anyone remember the Bradford trolleybuses? apparently only got
ride of in the miner's strike of 84/5.
Have only ever seen a TB in Russia.

They have 'em in Arnhem, NL too.

do they go over the bridge or is it too far? ;-)
are there any dual fuel, as it were, trolleybuses? or ones with battery
back up as lack of ability to divert off the wired routes is always
cited as a reason for not reviving them and filling the air with diesel
fumes instead.

MartinM said:

do they go over the bridge or is it too far? ;-)
are there any dual fuel, as it were, trolleybuses? or ones with battery
back up as lack of ability to divert off the wired routes is always
cited as a reason for not reviving them and filling the air with diesel
fumes instead.

Some restored trolley buses have battery back up but this is so they can
attend shows and the like rather than run passenger services. Although the
UK has no trolley buses it would seem they are still going strong in many
other parts of the world.

Colin