Regrets...post race.

Everyone does at some point..some more than others. Learn from your mistake and don't make it again. It's how you get better.

iliveonnitro said:

Everyone does at some point..some more than others. Learn from your mistake and don't make it again. It's how you get better.

I'm sure you meant well, and I appreciate your words of wisdom, but I'm fully aware that I need to learn from my mistake with the understanding that I don't want to make it again .

This thread was meant as a place for racers to share their regrettable racing experiences...

Definitely meant well.

If you want those stories, I sat up on the line at the Quad Cities crit in Iowa in a field of 75 riders. They paid 18 deep and I got 19th because I thought I was too far back -- probably lost 5 positions on the line. D'oh!

tonyzackery said:

I'm sure you meant well, and I appreciate your words of wisdom, but I'm fully aware that I need to learn from my mistake with the understanding that I don't want to make it again .

This thread was meant as a place for racers to share their regrettable racing experiences...

I was in a hillclimb last weekend that I hadn't ridden for 20 years. I knew there was an almost flat portion through the middle and I wanted to be sure to stick with a large group so I could draft. Well, I was over my limit and knew I couldn't maintain my pace - thought I might pop - so I dropped off the large group. What I didn't realize was that the flat part was only 200 yds away. I ended up working with 2 riders instead of 20. I don't know that I lost a ton of time but since that was really my only goal tactically - I blew it. Next time.....

ecandl said:

I was in a hillclimb last weekend that I hadn't ridden for 20 years. I knew there was an almost flat portion through the middle and I wanted to be sure to stick with a large group so I could draft. Well, I was over my limit and knew I couldn't maintain my pace - thought I might pop - so I dropped off the large group. What I didn't realize was that the flat part was only 200 yds away. I ended up working with 2 riders instead of 20. I don't know that I lost a ton of time but since that was really my only goal tactically - I blew it. Next time.....

Myself even entering a hill climbing competition would be a regrettable experience! LOL! I'm 195lbs and trying to defy gravity's pull (at race pace of course) is not one of my favorite things to do...Thanks for sharing...

tonyzackery said:

Just wanted to see how many of you out there ever have the feeling that you should put out more effort to get a better result in race.

I just finished up the Tour de Delta crit for the cat 3/4 men and I'm coming away unfulfilled in that I finished 8th (out of about 40), but I left alot still in the tank. I sat in for most of the 30 minute flat 0.9k crit in downtown Ladner, BC. I was feeling good, heartrate under control, and even bridged up to break of 4 that didn't want to work anymore once they noticed I was there (I have an excellent sprint).

The finish involved a very technical and tight turn and I was probably 8th wheel going in but got behind a couple very bad wheels (guys with no sprint) and had to slow down TWICE! I got back on it after losing a few spots and managed a top 10. I don't think my HR got to 180 (max 189) so I know I didn't work that hard in the final sprint.

I'm kicking myself now because I should've busted a lung going into that last corner and came out 3rd or 4th wheel as less than 1 second separated 1st to 10th. I hate when I don't give everything I've got...I train to hard to not leave it all on the race course...

1 MILE to go in a 3/4 cat race. Up the final drag ouR breakaway group of four was working well. I looked behind having done my turn and saw the bunch at around 160 metres. Arrgghhh it still haununt me now!!!I perhaps had one match to burn but I didn't respond and continued to take turns with the group. Thay reeled us all in 30 metres fr from the line. DAMN DAMN DAMN I WAS PERHAPS THE STRONGEST AND SHOULDA JUMPED WHEN I SAW THE PACK COMING!!!!😠 😠

Ade Merckx said:

1 MILE to go in a 3/4 cat race. Up the final drag ouR breakaway group of four was working well. I looked behind having done my turn and saw the bunch at around 160 metres. Arrgghhh it still haununt me now!!!I perhaps had one match to burn but I didn't respond and continued to take turns with the group. Thay reeled us all in 30 metres fr from the line. DAMN DAMN DAMN I WAS PERHAPS THE STRONGEST AND SHOULDA JUMPED WHEN I SAW THE PACK COMING!!!!😠 😠

That damn word "shoulda", along with its brother 'coulda', and cousin 'woulda' are the 3 most insidious words a racer can utter post race - I know this for a fact as "I've been there and done that" too...thanks for sharing.

I find it hard to maintain maximum effort through a 10 mile tt and often come away feeling like I should have gone harder. I have just finished my first season racing and I have learnt alot already, definately going to focus on pacing over the next year, I think I still go off too hard.

A couple of weeks ago I was on my way to a hill climb when I lost a spoke on my back wheel, it went all out of [censored] and I knew it wouldn't make it up the hill so I turned around and went home. I later discovered that the winning time was 10 seconds above the training time I had done up there the week before.

a good technique that I used when I was under23 (and also many teammates of mine) was: don't use a HR, powermetre or a speedometre, just go with your bare handlebar. When racing you won't think to other things, and you'll be concentrated only in crushing your opponents... it works perfectly, I still have nothing on my handlebar (only when training I put on HR monitor t do exercises). (ROAD PACK RACES, not TT, that's different!!)

Just finished my outdoor season with a couple of 'A' priority crits in Victoria. Disappointed with my results - 4th place in both races. Might as well have been 24th, IMO. I'm [censored] because I missed the podium on consecutive days! In hindsight, it again was my lack of aggressiveness going into the final two turns prior to the finish line that cost me podium finishes.

Lack of aggression indicates lack of confidence, and a lack of confidence indicates a lack of strength. With increased strength will come increased confidence which will allow me to be aggressive in the finale. Ergo, increasing power at threshold is my main goal over the winter.

tonyzackery said:

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Lack of aggression indicates lack of confidence, and a lack of confidence indicates a lack of strength. With increased strength will come increased confidence which will allow me to be aggressive in the finale. Ergo, increasing power at threshold is my main goal over the winter.

mmm I hear ya mate. Although lack of confidence doesn't necessarily indicate lack of strength. In quite often simply indicates what it is - LACK OF CONFIDENCE

Ade Merckx said:

mmm I hear ya mate. Although lack of confidence doesn't necessarily indicate lack of strength. In quite often simply indicates what it is - LACK OF CONFIDENCE

Agreed. Should have stated that I was speaking for myself. Nonetheless, there is always reason a racer will lack confidence in a situation - be it lack of strength relative to competition, past bad experience, possibly no prior experience with the particular situation, etc...

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Recently did the ITT champs of my regional association. A 30km undulating course. Immediately after finishing, I had no regrets, but after finding out I had missed a bronze medal by 13 secs I began to second guess myself as to where I could have made up that time...easy to find in hindsight, at the time I didn't feel like I could do any more...meh, next year I'll get 'em

I have a race in 2 weeks and it's the 6th time for me to do it. Came 3rd once and had disasters every other time. I've learned a damn lot doing this race and all of the last ear's training has been devoted to it. My Tour De France except it is only a 20km crit.

I've been doing special sprint training twice a week and I still don't know how to time them properly. My confidence is better though due to all the extra trainings. I've experimented with sprinting early, waiting, double attacking, false attacking and still you can't always out fox the other rats in the pack. Everybody is (almost everybody) doing and thinking the same as you. Can only be one winner. You can't predict what others around you are doing and therefore can't have a plan for everything that happens. Therefore if it doesn't go to plan and you don't do as well as you had hoped, yes, you will get some 'NEW' regrets.

When I came 3rd I was as alert as a rat in a Chinese kitchen. I still got my tail cut off at the finish line. I'm going to run this next race like a rat too. Going to tuck my tail into my shorts go hard.

Like others have mentioned. Aggression. When I take the initiative and try to control the rest of the riders by my own bold attack or going when I want to go and not waiting for somebody else to make the move, I tend to place better than when I'm just hoping to do well.

Confidence.
Strength.
Boldness.
Aggression.
They feed off each other...

When I regretted:
I've finished this race stuck behind a wall of riders with too much energy in the fuel tank. I should have gone out to the front earlier.

No regret:
I've also done the opposite and been too bold and went too early. But because I was bold and tried something I had no regrets after the race.
Gave me more confidence for next time. (next race).

RARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

JAPANic said:

I have a race in 2 weeks and it's the 6th time for me to do it. Came 3rd once and had disasters every other time. I've learned a damn lot doing this race and all of the last ear's training has been devoted to it. My Tour De France except it is only a 20km crit.

I've been doing special sprint training twice a week and I still don't know how to time them properly. My confidence is better though due to all the extra trainings. I've experimented with sprinting early, waiting, double attacking, false attacking and still you can't always out fox the other rats in the pack. Everybody is (almost everybody) doing and thinking the same as you. Can only be one winner. You can't predict what others around you are doing and therefore can't have a plan for everything that happens. Therefore if it doesn't go to plan and you don't do as well as you had hoped, yes, you will get some 'NEW' regrets.

When I came 3rd I was as alert as a rat in a Chinese kitchen. I still got my tail cut off at the finish line. I'm going to run this next race like a rat too. Going to tuck my tail into my shorts go hard.

Like others have mentioned. Aggression. When I take the initiative and try to control the rest of the riders by my own bold attack or going when I want to go and not waiting for somebody else to make the move, I tend to place better than when I'm just hoping to do well.

Confidence.
Strength.
Boldness.
Aggression.
They feed off each other...

When I regretted:
I've finished this race stuck behind a wall of riders with too much energy in the fuel tank. I should have gone out to the front earlier.

No regret:
I've also done the opposite and been too bold and went too early. But because I was bold and tried something I had no regrets after the race.
Gave me more confidence for next time. (next race).

RARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Thanks for sharing. I agree 100% that taking control of one's destiny as opposed to the 'wait and see' approach is always the most satisfying in the end. That 'wait and see' approach has always had me at the end of the race saying that I coulda/shoulda/woulda went harder...

For me, I've come away from races with no regrets when I've executed my gameplan that I set for myself going in. Sure, because of the dynamic nature of a race you can't predict exactly what's going to happen before it does, but from experience you have a pretty good idea of how the finale is going to play out. As long as I'm no worse than 5th wheel when the actual sprint starts, I'll come away with a decent result and no regrets. Getting into that good position has been a struggle for me in the past...gaining the strength to allow me to move up as many places as I need to on the last lap has been my goal for this winter...more threshold work to increase the FTP to get me to that last lap fresher...

tonyzackery said:

Thanks for sharing. I agree 100% that taking control of one's destiny as opposed to the 'wait and see' approach is always the most satisfying in the end. That 'wait and see' approach has always had me at the end of the race saying that I coulda/shoulda/woulda went harder...

For me, I've come away from races with no regrets when I've executed my gameplan that I set for myself going in. Sure, because of the dynamic nature of a race you can't predict exactly what's going to happen before it does, but from experience you have a pretty good idea of how the finale is going to play out.

Agree 100% My old wrestling coach summed it up best by saying "You can be the hammer or the nail. Either way it is going to hurt, but it is better to be the one calling the shots." It is amazing how well that philosophy works not only in sports but real life also

Hitchy said:

Recently did the ITT champs of my regional association. A 30km undulating course. Immediately after finishing, I had no regrets, but after finding out I had missed a bronze medal by 13 secs I began to second guess myself as to where I could have made up that time...easy to find in hindsight, at the time I didn't feel like I could do any more...meh, next year I'll get 'em

Your first mistake was entering a time trial

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

classic1 said:

Your first mistake was entering a time trial

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

This was a cycling TT brother....not trying to beat your best time 'door to door' thru macca's drive thru & back...what is your best time anyway? 😄....do you get time allowances if the chick says "do you want fries with that"?