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  1. The examples that Tim states are overstated. They are
    concentrated forms of lectin purified and reacted directly
    with red blood cells. This is done only in a laboratory
    setting and has been done for many years. It is also
    misleading to imply that anaphylactic shock, which is an
    allergic reaction, to anything related to red cell
    agglutination in vitro. When it comes to gastritis, most of
    the population will be type A or type O so the percentage of
    the population is so large as to be useless related to blood
    types. You might as well say everybody should eat or not eat
    such and such.
    H.pylori infection is related to Lewis Leb antigen in which
    the bacteria attaches to. Type O people have a slighter
    higher incidence compared to A people in ulcers because
    type O has no antigens compared to A people who have A
    substance. In short there will be more binding sites (Leb)
    in type O compared to type A.

  2. So you have been reading up now?

    What about the other types such as M,N,S, Fya,Fyb, Lea,Leb,-
    Jka,Jkb,E,e,C,c,I,i,P,Bg,Sda,Sdb,Di,Yt,Bg,Ch,Lua,Lub,U,Kpa.-
    kpb,jsa,j sb,Jka,Jkb and many more. Why don't you eat what
    is appropriate for those blood types? You ignore what you
    want to ignore and make up things for what you believe in.

    "Robert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The examples that Tim states are overstated. They are
    concentrated forms


    of

    Quoted message said:

    lectin purified and reacted directly with red blood cells.
    This is done


    only

    Quoted message said:

    in a laboratory setting and has been done for many years.
    It is also misleading to imply that anaphylactic shock,
    which is an


    allergic

    Quoted message said:

    reaction, to anything related to red cell agglutination in
    vitro. When it comes to gastritis, most of the population
    will be type A or type


    O

    Quoted message said:

    so the percentage of the population is so large as to be
    useless related


    to

    Quoted message said:

    blood types. You might as well say everybody should eat or
    not eat such


    and

    Quoted message said:

    such.
    H.pylori infection is related to Lewis Leb antigen in
    which the bacteria attaches to. Type O people have a
    slighter higher incidence compared to A people in ulcers
    because type O has no antigens compared to A people who
    have A substance. In short there will be more binding
    sites (Leb) in type


    O

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    compared to type A.

  3. "Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    So you have been reading up now?


    Not catching up dear, only responding to the topic at hand.
    Other topics include cancer and other loose associations
    with ABO. It is fruitless to know what your blood type is as
    it really doesn't help in determining disease. The
    differences in disease associations are very slight to be of
    little help. Most of the blood type associations have been
    developed in relation to function of the antigenic
    determinants in relation to disease. For example in the
    acquired type A antigens of some cancer patients. These are
    can serve as tumor markers in checking for metastasis. They
    check for A antigens in the tumor itself and not in the
    blood. Genetics is a major contributor to disease and any
    genetic marker is of help as long as it is specific. ABO is
    a genetic marker but not at all specific for any disease. I
    know of no disease that is exclusive of only one ABO type.
    There are many diseases who have a slight difference in ABO
    distribution but none are exclusive. As a matter of fact not
    all type A's are the same as there are many subgroups of A
    including A2,A3,An etc. A1 lectins will only agglutinate A1
    blood types not the others. Without exclusivity in disease
    associations there is no use in a diet that in itself
    excludes foods or increases foods.

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    What about the other types such as M,N,S, Fya,Fyb,


    Lea,Leb,Jka,Jkb,E,e,C,c,I,i,P,Bg,Sda,Sdb,Di,Yt,Bg,Ch,Lua,Lu-
    b,U,Kpa.kpb,jsa,j

    Quoted message said:

    sb,Jka,Jkb and many more. Why don't you eat what is
    appropriate for those blood types? You ignore what you
    want to ignore and make up things for


    what

    Quoted message said:

    you believe in.

    "Robert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The examples that Tim states are overstated. They are
    concentrated forms


    of

    Quoted message said:

    lectin purified and reacted directly with red blood
    cells. This is done


    only

    Quoted message said:

    in a laboratory setting and has been done for many
    years. It is also misleading to imply that anaphylactic
    shock, which is an


    allergic

    Quoted message said:

    reaction, to anything related to red cell agglutination
    in vitro. When it comes to gastritis, most of the
    population will be type A or


    type

    Quoted message said:

    O

    Quoted message said:

    so the percentage of the population is so large as to be
    useless related


    to

    Quoted message said:

    blood types. You might as well say everybody should eat
    or not eat such


    and

    Quoted message said:

    such.
    H.pylori infection is related to Lewis Leb antigen in
    which the bacteria attaches to. Type O people have a
    slighter higher incidence compared to


    A

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    people in ulcers because type O has no antigens compared
    to A people who have A substance. In short there will be
    more binding sites (Leb) in


    type

    Quoted message said:

    O

    Quoted message said:

    compared to type A.


  4. "Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    So you have been reading up now?


    I forgot to mention one of the most important things about
    basic ABO type and that is you inherit one gene from one
    parent and the other from the other. You won't see the
    genotype of that only the phenotype. If you inherit the A
    gene from your father and the O gene from your mother you
    will be type AO but only type out as A with antisera. So do
    you eat for type A or for type O? If you are type A2 it is
    possible to react to people who are A1. They are capable of
    forming anti-A1. Do you eat for a type A person or a type O
    in that case?

  5. Now where does that put your original troll then?

    "What about the other types such as M,N,S, Fya,Fyb, Lea,Leb-
    ,Jka,Jkb,E,e,C,c,I,i,P,Bg,Sda,Sdb,Di,Yt,Bg,Ch,Lua,Lub,U,Kpa-
    .kpb,jsa,j sb,Jka,Jkb and many more. Why don't you eat what
    is appropriate for those blood types? You ignore what you
    want to ignore and make up things for what you believe in."

    "Robert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    So you have been reading up now?


    I forgot to mention one of the most important things about
    basic ABO type and that is you inherit one gene from one
    parent and the other from the other. You won't see the
    genotype of that only the phenotype. If you inherit the A
    gene from your father and the O gene from your mother you
    will be type AO but only type out as A with antisera. So
    do you eat


    for

    Quoted message said:

    type A or for type O? If you are type A2 it is possible to
    react to people who are A1. They are capable of forming
    anti-A1. Do you eat for a type A person or a type O in
    that case?

  6. "Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Now where does that put your original troll then?


    Let me repeat that was a direct answer to the question
    posed. If you don't know how to interpret that then
    that's your problem. I am not going to hold your hand in
    trying to explain everything to you. This is written for
    all and not simply for you. It is your position that
    blood types are important for have a specific diet for
    each blood type not mine.

    Quoted message said:


    "What about the other types such as M,N,S, Fya,Fyb,


    Lea,Leb,Jka,Jkb,E,e,C,c,I,i,P,Bg,Sda,Sdb,Di,Yt,Bg,Ch,Lua,Lu-
    b,U,Kpa.kpb,jsa,j

    Quoted message said:

    sb,Jka,Jkb and many more. Why don't you eat what is
    appropriate for those blood types? You ignore what you
    want to ignore and make up things for


    what

    Quoted message said:

    you believe in."

    "Robert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news-
    :[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    So you have been reading up now?


    I forgot to mention one of the most important things
    about basic ABO


    type

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and that is you inherit one gene from one parent and the
    other from the other. You won't see the genotype of that
    only the phenotype. If you inherit the A gene from your
    father and the O gene from your


    mother

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    you will be type AO but only type out as A with
    antisera. So do you eat


    for

    Quoted message said:

    type A or for type O? If you are type A2 it is possible
    to react to people who are A1. They


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    capable of forming anti-A1. Do you eat for a type A
    person or a type O


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that case?


  7. Just what I figured. You had no idea what you were talking
    about. <PLONK>

    "Robert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5-
    [email hidden]...

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    Now where does that put your original troll then?


    Let me repeat that was a direct answer to the question
    posed. If you don't know how to interpret that then that's
    your problem. I am not going to


    hold

    Quoted message said:

    your hand in trying to explain everything to you. This is
    written for all and not simply for you. It is your
    position that blood types are important for have a
    specific diet for each blood type not mine.

    Quoted message said:


    "What about the other types such as M,N,S, Fya,Fyb,



    Lea,Leb,Jka,Jkb,E,e,C,c,I,i,P,Bg,Sda,Sdb,Di,Yt,Bg,Ch,Lua,Lu-
    b,U,Kpa.kpb,jsa,j

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    sb,Jka,Jkb and many more. Why don't you eat what is
    appropriate for


    those

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    blood types? You ignore what you want to ignore and make
    up things for


    what

    Quoted message said:

    you believe in."

    "Robert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    .-"]news:[email hidden].-
    com...
    > So you have been reading up now?
    I forgot to mention one of the most important things
    about basic ABO


    type

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and that is you inherit one gene from one parent and
    the other from


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    other. You won't see the genotype of that only the
    phenotype. If you inherit the A gene from your father
    and the O gene from your


    mother

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    you will be type AO but only type out as A with
    antisera. So do you


    eat

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    for

    Quoted message said:

    type A or for type O? If you are type A2 it is
    possible to react to people who are A1. They


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    capable of forming anti-A1. Do you eat for a type A
    person or a type O


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that case?



  8. "Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Just what I figured. You had no idea what you were
    talking about.

    That's real funny as I am the one who types blood and
    crossmatches blood for transfusions. I check for irregular
    antibodies to blood groups which can cause hemolytic
    transfusion reactions. As mentioned before there are 200-500
    different blood types depending on the author and the few
    that I have mentioned below have clinical significance. You
    fail to mention any food products needed for those. You also
    ignore the fact that somebody can have type A and O on there
    red cells at the same time. You also fail to mention any
    clear cut diseases that are exclusive to any blood type. The
    reason there is none is because of the genetics of
    inheritence. Some are heterozygous meaning both alleles are
    present and some are homozygous for that antigen. Most
    people on that diet probably don't really take it seriously.

    Quoted message said:

    <PLONK>

    "Robert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news-
    :[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Now where does that put your original troll then?


    Let me repeat that was a direct answer to the question
    posed. If you


    don't

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    know how to interpret that then that's your problem. I
    am not going to


    hold

    Quoted message said:

    your hand in trying to explain everything to you. This
    is written for


    all

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and not simply for you. It is your position that blood
    types are


    important

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    for have a specific diet for each blood type not mine.

    Quoted message said:


    "What about the other types such as M,N,S, Fya,Fyb,




    Lea,Leb,Jka,Jkb,E,e,C,c,I,i,P,Bg,Sda,Sdb,Di,Yt,Bg,Ch,Lua,Lu-
    b,U,Kpa.kpb,jsa,j

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    sb,Jka,Jkb and many more. Why don't you eat what is
    appropriate for


    those

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    blood types? You ignore what you want to ignore and
    make up things for


    what

    Quoted message said:

    you believe in."

    "Robert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    >
    > "Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > -"]news:[email hidden]-
    > .com...
    > > So you have been reading up now?
    > I forgot to mention one of the most important things
    > about basic ABO


    type

    Quoted message said:

    > and that is you inherit one gene from one parent and
    > the other from


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > other. You won't see the genotype of that only the
    > phenotype. If you inherit the A gene from your
    > father and the O gene from your


    mother

    Quoted message said:

    > you will be type AO but only type out as A with
    > antisera. So do you


    eat

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    for
    > type A or for type O? If you are type A2 it is
    > possible to react to people who are A1.


    They

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    are

    Quoted message said:

    > capable of forming anti-A1. Do you eat for a type A
    > person or a type


    O

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in

    Quoted message said:

    > that case?
    >
    >



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