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  1. Apologies in advance if this one has been done to death already -
    sadly I don't have the time at the moment to look through past
    postings so I'm being rather lazy...

    Just starting out on a regime of reducing sugar intake in particular
    and carbohydrates in general. However a couple of times I've lapsed.
    Typically what happens is that I feel very well for 12-24 hours but
    then my energy levels seem to fall away and I crave sugar, chocolate,
    etc. - to the point where I dash to the shop to buy something to take
    the craving away.

    This has come as something of a shock because I don't particularly
    have a sweet tooth and I didn't think my diet was particularly rich in
    sugar. It IS (or has been) quite rich in refined carbohydrates
    though.

    Any thoughts anyone? Is this little more than withdrawal symptoms?
    If it is, how long can I expect it to last before things settle down?

    Thanks,
    KF

  2. Alan wrote:
    :: Apologies in advance if this one has been done to death already -
    :: sadly I don't have the time at the moment to look through past
    :: postings so I'm being rather lazy...
    ::
    ::
    :: Just starting out on a regime of reducing sugar intake in particular
    :: and carbohydrates in general. However a couple of times I've lapsed.
    :: Typically what happens is that I feel very well for 12-24 hours but
    :: then my energy levels seem to fall away and I crave sugar, chocolate,
    :: etc. - to the point where I dash to the shop to buy something to take
    :: the craving away.
    ::
    :: This has come as something of a shock because I don't particularly
    :: have a sweet tooth and I didn't think my diet was particularly rich
    :: in sugar. It IS (or has been) quite rich in refined carbohydrates
    :: though.

    refined carbs = sugar.

    ::
    :: Any thoughts anyone? Is this little more than withdrawal symptoms?
    :: If it is, how long can I expect it to last before things settle down?

    I doubt if they will settle...you may learn to deal better with slipping up,
    though.

    ::
    :: Thanks,
    :: KF

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Apologies in advance if this one has been done to death already -
    sadly I don't have the time at the moment to look through past
    postings so I'm being rather lazy...

    Just starting out on a regime of reducing sugar intake in particular
    and carbohydrates in general. However a couple of times I've lapsed.
    Typically what happens is that I feel very well for 12-24 hours but
    then my energy levels seem to fall away and I crave sugar, chocolate,
    etc. - to the point where I dash to the shop to buy something to take
    the craving away.

    This has come as something of a shock because I don't particularly
    have a sweet tooth and I didn't think my diet was particularly rich in
    sugar. It IS (or has been) quite rich in refined carbohydrates
    though.

    Any thoughts anyone? Is this little more than withdrawal symptoms?
    If it is, how long can I expect it to last before things settle down?

    Yes, these ARE withdrawal symptoms. Cutting back is a great idea, but reading a
    book about a particular plan such as Atkins or South Beach would be better so
    that you have a better idea of what happens and how you should proceed and to
    make sure you do not cut out the wrong kinds of things (it's never wrong to cut
    out sugar, though). Knowledge is POWER :-)

    Your body is used to using glucose for fuel. As you use up your reserves, your
    body goes into an alarm mode to urge you to replenish the supplies. It is a very
    POWERFUL urge and it really DOES take some willpower to get past it. The
    cravings usually disappear after a couple of days and you will see a DRAMATIC
    reduction of appetite as the body turns to burning FAT for fuel instead.

    One thing that helped me get through the first couple of weeks was a desert made
    from cream cheese, Splenda, vanilla and cocoa powder (Google this group for
    ideas). I was able to scoop out a taste or two here and there when I had the
    urge for something sweet and found it surprisingly satisfying.

    --
    Saffire
    205/148/125 - 5'1.5"
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

  4. For me all "induction" symptoms were quite temporary, and
    lasted less than two weeks. I've felt normal and ulra-healthy
    in the year since I got past that. Hopefully the promise of
    permanent weight loss and cessation of blood sugar and
    other disorders (if applicable) will be adequate motivation
    to get through it.

    Occasional single cheat meals do not cause these symptoms
    to return for me. They might cause a little gas or bloating, but
    this lasts a short while and no other ill effects are felt. Often
    there is no effect I can notice.

    Others I know who have cheated consistently throughout their
    diet have never gotten past the ill effects and all have failed to
    continue the diet or keep any weight off. They blame "the diet"
    rather than their own poor effort at same.

    Alan

    "Alan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Apologies in advance if this one has been done to death already -
    sadly I don't have the time at the moment to look through past
    postings so I'm being rather lazy...

    Just starting out on a regime of reducing sugar intake in particular
    and carbohydrates in general. However a couple of times I've lapsed.
    Typically what happens is that I feel very well for 12-24 hours but
    then my energy levels seem to fall away and I crave sugar, chocolate,
    etc. - to the point where I dash to the shop to buy something to take
    the craving away.

    This has come as something of a shock because I don't particularly
    have a sweet tooth and I didn't think my diet was particularly rich in
    sugar. It IS (or has been) quite rich in refined carbohydrates
    though.

    Any thoughts anyone? Is this little more than withdrawal symptoms?
    If it is, how long can I expect it to last before things settle down?

    Thanks,
    KF

  5. Saffire said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Apologies in advance if this one has been done to death already -
    sadly I don't have the time at the moment to look through past
    postings so I'm being rather lazy...

    Just starting out on a regime of reducing sugar intake in particular
    and carbohydrates in general. However a couple of times I've lapsed.
    Typically what happens is that I feel very well for 12-24 hours but
    then my energy levels seem to fall away and I crave sugar, chocolate,
    etc. - to the point where I dash to the shop to buy something to take
    the craving away.

    This has come as something of a shock because I don't particularly
    have a sweet tooth and I didn't think my diet was particularly rich in
    sugar. It IS (or has been) quite rich in refined carbohydrates
    though.

    Any thoughts anyone? Is this little more than withdrawal symptoms?
    If it is, how long can I expect it to last before things settle down?

    Yes, these ARE withdrawal symptoms. Cutting back is a great idea, but reading a
    book about a particular plan such as Atkins or South Beach would be better so
    that you have a better idea of what happens and how you should proceed and to
    make sure you do not cut out the wrong kinds of things (it's never wrong to cut
    out sugar, though). Knowledge is POWER :-)

    Your body is used to using glucose for fuel. As you use up your reserves, your
    body goes into an alarm mode to urge you to replenish the supplies. It is a very
    POWERFUL urge and it really DOES take some willpower to get past it. The
    cravings usually disappear after a couple of days and you will see a DRAMATIC
    reduction of appetite as the body turns to burning FAT for fuel instead.

    I don't know how it would relate to a switch to fat-burning (ketosis?), but
    when people are low-carbing for hypoglycemia or diabetes, glutamine and/or
    glycerine/glycerol are often used to help with 'withdrawal symptoms'. See
    http://www.hypoglycemia.asn.au/articles/what_is_hypo.html re glycerine and
    search for "Ron Rosedale" + glutamine.

    Quoted message said:

    One thing that helped me get through the first couple of weeks was a desert made
    from cream cheese, Splenda, vanilla and cocoa powder (Google this group for
    ideas). I was able to scoop out a taste or two here and there when I had the
    urge for something sweet and found it surprisingly satisfying.

    I'm findign cocoa powder awfully useful; cream cheese too. Sometimes I mix
    them, but more often have 'hot chocolate' which is cocoa powder with whey
    in water, sometimes with a little cream. Also sometimes lime juice in
    water helps.

    Skinny

  6. [email hidden] (Alan) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Just starting out on a regime of reducing sugar intake in particular
    and carbohydrates in general. However a couple of times I've lapsed.
    Typically what happens is that I feel very well for 12-24 hours but
    then my energy levels seem to fall away and I crave sugar, chocolate,
    etc. - to the point where I dash to the shop to buy something to take
    the craving away.

    Here are some thoughts of mine - what has worked for me.

    1) "Meat, not sweets". Try to only snack on things that have actual
    nutritional value.

    2) When you start feeling that empty feeling, eat something low carb
    that has both protein and fat, instead of sweets. For me, a good,
    satisfying snack is a cup of vanilla almond black tea (Republic of Tea
    makes a good one) with a little heavy cream and Splenda, or perhaps
    some homemade hot cocoa (Hershey's unsweetened cocoa powder, hot
    water, little bit of heavy cream, Splenda) along with a spoonful of
    peanut butter. This really hits the spot. You'll need to ration the
    peanut butter though, and it's a no-no on induction.

    3) Don't ever let yourself get hungry enough to start getting a sweet
    tooth. Eat very filling, high protein meals. I discovered that I was
    getting a lot of cravings because I simply wasn't eating enough
    protein. This is why low-fat diets often just don't work.

    4) Some plans have you do the full-bore low-low-low carb "induction"
    or "phase one" thing. There's some value to this: it really kicks
    those cravings' a$$. During the first phase of these type of plans
    (such as Atkins), you eat as much as you need to of the allowed foods;
    the good news is that as your body adjusts to eating lower-carb, your
    appetite also starts declining a bit. Once your body is adjusted,
    you'll be able to deal with those cravings with a piece of meat or
    cheese cubes, instead of with sugar, and you'll do just fine.

    5) I have been allowing myself occasional treats - but I ration them.
    Moderation is the key. It's just that once you get through the first
    withdrawal stages, and get established on your low-carb lifestyle,
    it's much *easier* to control how much you eat. Frankly, pig-outs are
    just not possible anymore; a whole candy bar would make me gag. Some
    LCers report that even cucumbers taste sweet after being LC for a
    while.

    6) There are some great ideas for low-carb treats on this board, but
    my *own* best experience has been to limit the number of these I eat.
    You want to get in the habit of eating actual nutritious food that
    will give you energy and fill you up. Occasionally you do find food
    that meets both requirements (the "chocolate omelette" comes to mind)
    but I have had much better experience cutting out even anything
    sweet-tasting at first, then adding these things back in slowly once
    my cravings were licked.

    7) Once your cravings are licked, really, even sweet things will give
    you more mileage than they ever did; raspberries with
    Splenda-sweetened whipped heavy cream are my favorite heavenly treat
    now. I crave *those*!

    8) Some of us find that the craving for chocolate is a separate matter
    from the craving for sweets. That's why many of the lc treat recipes
    seem to revolve around chocolate. If you must have chocolate,
    typically you just... must have chocolate. So if you do eat chocolate
    - eat only the best, highest grade stuff. The higher level of cacao in
    it (such as Scharffen Berger's 71%), the less sugar there is. Also,
    eating "only the best" can make it somewhat self-limiting;
    occasionally I treat myself to a cup of coffee and a single chocolate
    from a local place that sells very fancy gourmet chocolates - at $40 a
    pound, I'm not going to be doing any pig-outs. After eating The Good
    Stuff, too, I don't find any storebought chocolate at all appealing.

    Hope all this helps.

    Dreia
    LC since March: 32 down and 10-15 to go!

  7. Thanks everyone for your advice - very helpful & informative. Wish me luck!

    KF.

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