red means....

Tamyka Bell said:

Bleve said:

Theo Bekkers said:

Bleve wrote:
> Theo Bekkers wrote:

>> Hmm.. Bleve saw someone doing something reaaly stupid (taking off
>> when the light was red whilst talking on his mobile) and wished he
>> had a truck with a bullbar so he could get the satisfaction of
>> prying said person from his bullbar with a crowbar. Just how did I
>> miss the context? He thought the person deserved to die and wishes
>> he was the person to effect said death.
>
> I don't recall mentioning death at all, that's your take. Given that
> the collision would have been at low speed (context, remember? the
> turd was only doing maybe a maximum of 20km/h, he'd just accelerated
> from a stop and would have traveled maybe 10 metres) the prying from
> a bullbar would have been panel damage and a rude shock, and a
> significant impact on the turd's day, but no injury.

Interesting that you put this spin on your remarks just seven minutes
after
Tam posted this "context". :-)
I took it from your initial post that you felt this person, not his
vehicle, deserved serious injury, and Zebee had the same understanding.
If I misunderstood you, I apologise. It appears now that you only
wanted to seriously damage his property.

Apology accepted. I didn't even want to seriously damage his property,
just seriously inconvenience him such that he might learn a lesson.

There, now we're all happy again!

Tam

He he he ...

Now if Bleve apologises for suggesting Theo was clueless
(Theo's 'understanding' was shared by at least two others), and you
apologise for your inaccurate age-ist comment then everything will be fine.

Just ... couldn't ... resist ... it

Cheers,

Vince

Theo Bekkers said:

scotty72 said:

Tamyka Bell said:

Theo Bekkers wrote:
> Bleve wrote:
>
>> Sometimes, I wish I drove a truck. Prying the turd out of a bullbar
>> with a crowbar would give some degree of satisfaction.
> You want to kill people?
> Hmmm......

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

With the ability to cull context like that, you'd make a
great journo, Theo.

T

Not the first time that Theo has ignored context - when it suits him
of course...

Hmm.. Bleve saw someone doing something reaaly stupid (taking off when the
light was red whilst talking on his mobile) and wished he had a truck with a
bullbar so he could get the satisfaction of prying said person from his
bullbar with a crowbar. Just how did I miss the context? He thought the
person deserved to die and wishes he was the person to effect said death.

Would he want to do the same to someone on a bicycle doing something equally
silly. Like deliberately running a red light?

Theo

So unlikely that the cyclist might kill you. Fairly unlikely to do
anyone real harm in a modern
car by gently crunching em with a truck for that matter. I was parked
on Glenroy cab rank once in my XC.
tooted the woman in the 120 Y stopped there illegally . She gave me
the finger and wandered into the shops. Slow day. I was happily
chatting to the cab in front of her when she came back. She asked us to
move. We refused. She threatened to ram us. I laughed. She did.
Funny as hell. Then she wanted my details for her insurance company.
Jeez those 120y things fold up easily.

In a nice twist of fate we both got fares at the same time. When I came
back she was gone. Left the broken glass tho 🙁

Dave

Paulus said:

I think we are missing ther point which is "using mobiles phones is
dangerous while driving". Clearly demonstrated by said law brekaer being
too busy breaking the law while chatting on the phone to obey a traffic
control signal (why stop at one broken law hey!).

I was in a car being driven by a bod at work who while on the phone to
his skiing mate drove straight thru a red light at 30 or so kph. I
called him on it. He had not noticed. Did not believe me. Not that he
could remember the last intersection. Or wanted to talk about it

Bloke just bought a vespa. This will be interesting 🙂

Dave

Paulus said:

I think we are missing ther point which is "using mobiles phones is
dangerous while driving". Clearly demonstrated by said law brekaer being
too busy breaking the law while chatting on the phone to obey a traffic
control signal (why stop at one broken law hey!).

P

Hear, hear!

Tam

Tamyka Bell said:

Theo Bekkers wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Ahh, the youf of today. I like them. They have learnt to think for
themselves. All they need is some maturity and edumication.

Then they'll be the youf of yesterday :P (where yesterday is
used in a sense more like yesteryear...)

<Applause>

Theo

dave said:

I was in a car being driven by a bod at work who while on the phone to
his skiing mate drove straight thru a red light at 30 or so kph. I
called him on it. He had not noticed. Did not believe me. Not that
he could remember the last intersection. Or wanted to talk about it

How often do you see people who are not on the phone take off through a red
when they see the oncoming trafficc begin to move because they have a right
turn arrow whilst their light remains red. I've nearly done it myself a
couple of times.

Theo

In aus.bicycle on Fri, 13 Oct 2006 11:10:57 +0800

Theo Bekkers said:

How often do you see people who are not on the phone take off through a red
when they see the oncoming trafficc begin to move because they have a right
turn arrow whilst their light remains red. I've nearly done it myself a
couple of times.

Saw it happen near home. Slightly different though - red on forward
and left, then the traffic going from right to left across us got a
red.

Traffic going from left to right continues green, gets a right turn
arrow, we get a left turn arrow.

Large 4WD in left side lane was, I think, watching the traffic lights
to his left which went red. Green left turn arrow facing him goes on,
he takes it as a green light and barrels into the intersection.

And smashes into a car coming over the crest from his left, said car
having the full green light. Car is damn near flipped, 4WD spins into
cars waiting at opposite lights. Much damage but luckily no serious
injury as all cars involved are very modern.

Dumbshit Zebee on motorcycle who was half asleep and followed 4WD
until just into the intersection at which point the crash happened,
suitable horrified at own self.

Zebee

Theo Bekkers said:

dave said:

I was in a car being driven by a bod at work who while on the phone to
his skiing mate drove straight thru a red light at 30 or so kph. I
called him on it. He had not noticed. Did not believe me. Not that
he could remember the last intersection. Or wanted to talk about it

How often do you see people who are not on the phone take off through a red
when they see the oncoming trafficc begin to move because they have a right
turn arrow whilst their light remains red. I've nearly done it myself a
couple of times.

Theo

Sure. But people who don;t even notice a red light at all are slightly
more dangerous

Dave

dave said:

Theo Bekkers wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

How often do you see people who are not on the phone take off
through a red when they see the oncoming trafficc begin to move
because they have a right turn arrow whilst their light remains red.
I've nearly done it myself a couple of times.

Quoted message said:

Sure. But people who don;t even notice a red light at all are
slightly more dangerous

I have momentary lapses of concentration. I find it wise to expect others
to have the same.

Theo

Theo Bekkers said:

dave said:

Theo Bekkers wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

How often do you see people who are not on the phone take off
through a red when they see the oncoming trafficc begin to move
because they have a right turn arrow whilst their light remains red.
I've nearly done it myself a couple of times.

Quoted message said:

Sure. But people who don;t even notice a red light at all are
slightly more dangerous

I have momentary lapses of concentration. I find it wise to expect others
to have the same.

Of course, that's how we stay alive.

It's when the momentary lapse is linked into talking on a mobile phone,
it becomes more serious. Just like drink-driving etc.

Theo Bekkers said:

You want to kill people?
Hmmm......
Theo

so you condone talking on a mobile phone while driving a car ??

Thats how I interpreted your reponse.

Bleve said:

Theo Bekkers wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I have momentary lapses of concentration. I find it wise to expect
others to have the same.

Of course, that's how we stay alive.

It's when the momentary lapse is linked into talking on a mobile
phone, it becomes more serious. Just like drink-driving etc.

That's more like a lapse of reason.

Theo

Subject: Re: red means....
.... it goes faster

Sorry, someone had to say it.

--
TimC
Some people claim that the UNIX learning curve is steep, but at least you
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