Red light jumping.

mb said:

Martin Dann said:

This is exactly the behaviour that elements of the press
complain that we (cyclists) do all the time, and motorists
never do.

Bunch of fibbers. Here's a vid of a cyclist in Amsterdam, where, as we all
know, cyclists don't stop at red lights:

--
Mike

Why wants the UK to be more like that?

Cyclist riding against the one way,
Cyclist riding with a brolly in one hand
Cyclist on the phone navigating a busy junction
and that's only watching it once...

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:34:50 -0700, "The other view point, there is one

you know... said:

mb said:

Martin Dann said:

This is exactly the behaviour that elements of the press
complain that we (cyclists) do all the time, and motorists
never do.

Bunch of fibbers. Here's a vid of a cyclist in Amsterdam, where, as we all
know, cyclists don't stop at red lights:

--
Mike

Why wants the UK to be more like that?

Cyclist riding against the one way,

Legal in The Netherlands.

Quoted message said:

Cyclist riding with a brolly in one hand

What's wrong with that? Should one-armed cyclists be banned from the
roads?

Quoted message said:

Cyclist on the phone navigating a busy junction

Agreed. Cell phones are the work of Santa.

wheelist said:

Christian Wolmar makes some good points about cyclists RLJing in his new
online blog: http://www.christianwolmar.co.uk/online_column/may07.shtml

As someone who thinks it's safer to be predictable (i.e. NOT jump red
lights), I think the wrong conclusions were drawn about the
(predominantly female) risk rate. The higher death rate was not caused
by stopping at red lights, but by going up the near side of a vehicle.

I avoid wherever possible passing any vehicle on the nearside on my bike
for exactly the same reason I avoid doing it in my car: the other driver
won't expect you to be there. The other driver only expects a pass on
the nearside when traffic is moving in queues, or when they are turning
right. If it's a traffic jam, I won't sneak up the near side between the
kerb and the stopped traffic (because sometimes, a passenger might get
out of the car and they just don't expect other traffic to be overtaking
on the nearside at that point).

In queues, I take up the position where the *right* wheel of cars travel
if I'm able to keep up with the traffic. It stops thoughtless motorists
from trying to overtake, and it makes me more visible so I'm less likely
to be SMIDSY'd. [0]

Quoted message said:

I'm in the enviable position of not having a single set of lights on my
30 mile daily commute, just a couple of lollipop ladies who always say
hello. Nice. :p

Fortunately, that's my current position also (except my round trip is 25
miles). I can make it to work most days without having to stop anywhere,
and only one stop at a T junction coming home.

[0] Sorry Mate I Didn't See You

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Marc Brett said:

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:34:50 -0700, "The other view point, there is one

you know... said:

mb said:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 21:57:22 +0000, Martin Dann wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> This is exactly the behaviour that elements of the press
> complain that we (cyclists) do all the time, and motorists
> never do.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Bunch of fibbers. Here's a vid of a cyclist in Amsterdam, where, as we all
know, cyclists don't stop at red lights:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

--
Mike

Quoted message said:

Why wants the UK to be more like that?

Quoted message said:

Cyclist riding against the one way,

Legal in The Netherlands.

Quoted message said:

Cyclist riding with a brolly in one hand

What's wrong with that? Should one-armed cyclists be banned from the
roads?

Quoted message said:

Cyclist on the phone navigating a busy junction

Agreed. Cell phones are the work of Santa.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Do you think that the brolly chap can safely ride the bike, wind,
'side draught' from a passing tram, lorry etc not to mention that it's
wider then the bike and rider could catch on something, or worst catch
another clyclist. All which could affect his balance etc. So do you
still think is ok to ride with a brolly?

One armed cyclist, hmmmmmm well he will only have one brake, one gear
change leaver, unless the bike is modified.

Quoted message said:

One armed cyclist, hmmmmmm well he will only have one brake, one gear
change leaver, unless the bike is modified.

Gears aren't a safety feature (are you sure you're a cyclist?) and a front
brake provides all the braking power that's needed (tho an alternative
means of braking would be good). Control under heavy braking would be
compromised, so the cyclist would need to keep their speed down.

As to whether I'd condone it, well, a friend rides no handed with a brolly
(he's a unicyclist). All things being equal (particularly speed) I can't
see how riding with two wheels and a brolly could be less safe.

Mark said:

Gears aren't a safety feature (are you sure you're a cyclist?) and a front
brake provides all the braking power that's needed (tho an alternative
means of braking would be good). Control under heavy braking would be
compromised, so the cyclist would need to keep their speed down.

As to whether I'd condone it, well, a friend rides no handed with a brolly
(he's a unicyclist). All things being equal (particularly speed) I can't
see how riding with two wheels and a brolly could be less safe.

Is his bike a fixie? Very few unicycles have freewheels - I've only
ever come across one, which I failed to ride. A standard unicycle is
easy to stop using leg power alone.

Also, in the event of a collision or sudden loss of balance, it's much
easier to leap clear of a unicycle than a bike.

That said, I used to juggle while riding my bike home from work. I
never felt unsafe doing so - even sitting up juggling my hands were
never far enough from the brake levers to be a worry on the road that I
did it on (excellent visibility, no cars parked on the road and it was
rare to see a moving car).

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Danny Colyer said:

Mark said:

As to whether I'd condone it, well, a friend rides no handed with a brolly
(he's a unicyclist).

Is his bike a fixie?

Sorry, I did read the post, honest. Everything I pointed out stands,
though.

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Is his bike a fixie?

Sorry, I did read the post, honest. Everything I pointed out stands,
though.

I'm sure somebody somewhere rides a freewheel unicycle :-)

Mark said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Is his bike a fixie?

Sorry, I did read the post, honest. Everything I pointed out stands,
though.

I'm sure somebody somewhere rides a freewheel unicycle :-)

ISTR someone has a unicycle with one and a half wheels.
The half wheel driving the full wheel, which effectively
has a clutch when in certain positions.

Do you know if anyone has a unicycle fitted with a hub gear?

Martin.

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:23:34 -0700, "The other view point, there is one

you know... said:

Do you think that the brolly chap can safely ride the bike, wind,
'side draught' from a passing tram, lorry etc not to mention that it's
wider then the bike and rider could catch on something, or worst catch
another clyclist. All which could affect his balance etc. So do you
still think is ok to ride with a brolly?

Bumberchutes are a menace for pedestrians on pavements, too. I hate
'em.

Nevertheless, I found that to be the most charming part of the whole
video. It means that cycling in Amsterdam is an everyday activity for
everyday people in everyday clothing in everyday circumstances. It
banishes the thought that it's a dangerous activity requiring
extraordinary vigilance, personal protective equipment, specialist
training, and dedicated facilities. I wish to see more cyclists with
umbrellas here.

Martin Dann said:

Do you know if anyone has a unicycle fitted with a hub gear?

Lots.

It's one of the periodic discussions - which is better, a big wheel or
a moderate wheel with an overdrive in the hub?

regards, Ian SMith
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

One armed cyclist, hmmmmmm well he will only have one brake, one gear
change leaver, unless the bike is modified.

Gears aren't a safety feature (are you sure you're a cyclist?) and a front
brake provides all the braking power that's needed (tho an alternative
means of braking would be good). Control under heavy braking would be
compromised, so the cyclist would need to keep their speed down.

As to whether I'd condone it, well, a friend rides no handed with a brolly
(he's a unicyclist). All things being equal (particularly speed) I can't
see how riding with two wheels and a brolly could be less safe.

hmmmm, if you can't change gear, as i'm sure you knw; you will loose
momentum, wobble and have to stop on hills etc, all not in your
control. if it was a fixed gear then... ;-)

Mark said:

I'm sure somebody somewhere rides a freewheel unicycle :-)

Roger Davies (of <http://www.unicycle.uk.com/> ) has one that he
sometimes brings along to conventions. I've seen a couple of people
ride it, but I had a go last year and didn't get very far with it at all.

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Martin Dann said:

Do you know if anyone has a unicycle fitted with a hub gear?

The first one I saw was 12 years ago with a 3 speed SA hub (modified, I
believe, to be a 2-speed fixed).

Schlumpf now does a hub gear designed specifically for unicycles:
<http://schlumpfdrive.com/?sl=en&sid=&u_s=0&u_a=22>

I haven't tried one yet. Peter Clinch has. It's absurdly expensive.

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there is one you know... said:

Marc Brett said:

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:34:50 -0700, "The other view point, there is one

Quoted message said:

you know... said:

On 13 Jun, 22:42, mb <[email hidden]> wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 21:57:22 +0000, Martin Dann wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > This is exactly the behaviour that elements of the press
> > complain that we (cyclists) do all the time, and motorists
> > never do.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Bunch of fibbers. Here's a vid of a cyclist in Amsterdam, where, as we all
> know, cyclists don't stop at red lights:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> --
> Mike

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Why wants the UK to be more like that?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Cyclist riding against the one way,

Quoted message said:

Legal in The Netherlands.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Cyclist riding with a brolly in one hand

Quoted message said:

What's wrong with that? Should one-armed cyclists be banned from the
roads?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Cyclist on the phone navigating a busy junction

Quoted message said:

Agreed. Cell phones are the work of Santa.- Hide quoted text -

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Do you think that the brolly chap can safely ride the bike, wind,
'side draught' from a passing tram, lorry etc not to mention that it's
wider then the bike and rider could catch on something, or worst catch
another clyclist. All which could affect his balance etc. So do you
still think is ok to ride with a brolly?

Yes. With appropriate consideration.

Quoted message said:

One armed cyclist, hmmmmmm well he will only have one brake, one gear
change leaver, unless the bike is modified.

Nahh. I can ride my bike with a brolly and still have access to the
full range of gears and brakes (two in this case).

...d

David Martin said:

Nahh. I can ride my bike with a brolly and still have access to the
full range of gears and brakes (two in this case).

The first 20 year I cycled I rode a bike with just the one gear, coaster
brakes, and usually one hand in my pocket. I still didn't need the other
hand for gears or brakes.
Never been a fan of brollies though - can't trust them, they always go for
my eyes.

Roos

In article <1181915076.669169.25080
@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, [email hidden]
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there is one you know... said:

Marc Brett said:

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:34:50 -0700, "The other view point, there is one

Quoted message said:

you know..." <[email hidden]> wrote:
>On 13 Jun, 22:42, mb <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 21:57:22 +0000, Martin Dann wrote:

Quoted message said:

>> > This is exactly the behaviour that elements of the press
>> > complain that we (cyclists) do all the time, and motorists
>> > never do.

Quoted message said:

>> Bunch of fibbers. Here's a vid of a cyclist in Amsterdam, where, as we all
>> know, cyclists don't stop at red lights:

Quoted message said:

>> --
>> Mike

Quoted message said:

>Why wants the UK to be more like that?

Quoted message said:

>Cyclist riding against the one way,

Quoted message said:

Legal in The Netherlands.

Quoted message said:

>Cyclist riding with a brolly in one hand

Quoted message said:

What's wrong with that? Should one-armed cyclists be banned from the
roads?

Quoted message said:

>Cyclist on the phone navigating a busy junction

Quoted message said:

Agreed. Cell phones are the work of Santa.- Hide quoted text -

Quoted message said:

- Show quoted text -

Do you think that the brolly chap can safely ride the bike, wind,
'side draught' from a passing tram, lorry etc not to mention that it's
wider then the bike and rider could catch on something, or worst catch
another clyclist. All which could affect his balance etc. So do you
still think is ok to ride with a brolly?

Yes. With appropriate consideration.

Quoted message said:

One armed cyclist, hmmmmmm well he will only have one brake, one gear
change leaver, unless the bike is modified.

Nahh. I can ride my bike with a brolly and still have access to the
full range of gears and brakes (two in this case).

..d

It should be possible to have a bike with a twist grip and
trigger shift along side the front brake in conjunction with a
coaster brake. This would give a one handed person access to a
full range of gears.
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