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  1. Joe Friesen, "Red Delicious most nutritious", Globe and Mail, May 24,
    2005,
    Link:
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20050524/APPLES24/TPHealth/

    An apple a day may keep the doctor away, but new research shows that
    when it comes to healthy eating, not all apples are created equal.

    A study by scientists at Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada to be
    published this week indicates that of the eight main varieties of apple
    grown in Ontario, the Red Delicious is the most nutritious.

    Red Delicious apples contain more than five times as many antioxidants
    as Empire apples, the variety with the lowest antioxidant level, said
    the study's lead researcher, Rong Tsao.

    "Redder apples are generally richer in antioxidants than pale coloured
    apples," Dr. Tsao said, explaining that antioxidants are the "good
    chemicals in fruits and vegetables that help us fight cancers and
    cardiovascular diseases.

    "These are the compounds that are known to fight with the so-called
    free radicals in our body."

    "The free radicals are the culprits of modern human chronic diseases."

    The study is notable because it pinpoints for the first time the
    individual molecules that contribute most to antioxidant activities in
    apples. Those molecules were found to be much more prevalent in the
    skin of the apple than in the flesh of the fruit, leading Dr. Tsao to
    recommend Canadians put down their peelers and eat the whole apple.

    Identifying those molecules will also help scientists such as Dr. Tsao
    as they try to produce new breeds of apples that could potentially
    contain more concentrated nutritional benefits.

    "So instead of eating two [apples], or even one, you can cut the
    [portion] size in half," Dr. Tsao said.

    There were significant differences in the antioxidant levels of the
    apple varieties used in the study.

    The flesh of the Northern Spy was found to be richest in antioxidants,
    while the Empire and the Mutsu had the lowest levels in both their
    flesh and skin. All the apples used in the study were grown at the same
    orchard near Woodstock, Ont., and under the same agronomic conditions
    to guarantee the consistency of the results.

    Dr. Tsao, who works out of the federal Department of Agriculture and
    Agri-Food's lab in Guelph, Ont., said the results don't necessarily
    mean consumers will change their apple-eating habits, or that farmers
    should start producing only certain varieties.

    "Food is a very interesting thing. People don't always choose food by
    what is most nutritious," he said.

    Apples, which he believes are the second most commonly consumed fruit
    after bananas, are not as rich in antioxidants as blueberries or
    blackberries. They are, however, more affordable, more widely available
    and more robust when it comes to storage, which means that an apple a
    day may the most effective means of ensuring a healthy dose of
    antioxidants.

    Dr. Tsao now plans to use his findings to work with companies in the
    apple juicing industry to create new products from apple waste. The
    juicing industry typically discards the peels, he said, which are rich
    in antioxidants. That material could be reworked and sold as a new kind
    of nutritional product for human or animal consumption.

    The study will be published on-line this week in the Journal of
    Agricultural and Food Chemistry. Other popular apple varieties, such as
    the Granny Smith or the Gala, were left out of the study because they
    are not grown locally.

    A new study on apples shows that of the eight main varieties grown in
    Ontario, Red Delicious has the most antioxidant activity. Antioxidants
    in apples have been associated with lowered risks for certain kinds of
    cancer.

    THE APPLE SKIN TOP 8*

    Red Delicious; 17,851

    Ida Red; 12,083

    Cortland; 11,908

    Northern Spy; 10,044

    Golden Delicious; 9,616

    Mutsu; 6,820

    McIntosh; 6.436

    Empire; 2,736

    THE APPLE FLESH TOP 8*

    Northern Spy; 6,425

    Cortland; 3,660

    Red Delicious; 3,215

    MacIntosh; 2,785

    Ida Red; 2,749

    Golden Delicious; 2,036

    Mutsu; 1,584

    Empire; 550

    *Measured in FRAP units of antioxidant activity - FRAP is a commonly
    used measure of antioxidant activity

    SOURCE: DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND AGRI FOOD

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Roman Bystrianyk said:

    Joe Friesen, "Red Delicious most nutritious", Globe and Mail, May 24,
    2005,
    Link:
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20050524/APPLES24/TPHealth/

    An apple a day may keep the doctor away, but new research shows that
    when it comes to healthy eating, not all apples are created equal.

    A study by scientists at Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada to be
    published this week indicates that of the eight main varieties of apple
    grown in Ontario, the Red Delicious is the most nutritious.

    I wish this test had been done on those apples that deluge the USA
    from Washington state every year. They are picked so early that they
    taste like cardboard by the time they get to the store. I can't
    imagine their nutrition is all that wonderful, either. The test
    apples in this study were locally-grown.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a
    deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty
    clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor

  3. David Wright said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Roman Bystrianyk said:

    Joe Friesen, "Red Delicious most nutritious", Globe and Mail, May 24,
    2005,
    Link:
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20050524/APPLES24/TPHealth/

    An apple a day may keep the doctor away, but new research shows that
    when it comes to healthy eating, not all apples are created equal.

    A study by scientists at Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada to be
    published this week indicates that of the eight main varieties of apple
    grown in Ontario, the Red Delicious is the most nutritious.

    I wish this test had been done on those apples that deluge the USA
    from Washington state every year. They are picked so early that they
    taste like cardboard by the time they get to the store. I can't
    imagine their nutrition is all that wonderful, either. The test
    apples in this study were locally-grown.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a
    deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty
    clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor

    The problem with this kind of quantification of nutrients in produce is
    that the various produce's nutrient values will vary considerably due
    to many, many, factors, such as:

    1) the variety of the crop
    2) the health and nutrient content of the soil it is grown in
    3) the weather, ie. temperatures and amount of rainfall, during the
    growth period
    4) the quality of the water, ie. rain water vs. irrigation water
    5) the time of picking of the produce, ie. before ripe, at ripe, after
    ripe
    6) the length of time in storage and/or transit
    7) the conditions it is exposed to in storage and/or in transit, ie.
    extreme heat or cold or nice cool temperatures, the air-tightness of
    the containers, etc.
    etc.

    The nutritive values will only apply to the specific batch of apples
    tested, from the specific field they were grown and in the year they
    were grown. The values cannot be assumed for the same variety of apples
    grown in a different field on different soil, in a different year,
    picked at a different time, stored for a different length of time, etc.

    They are trying to determine values that are extremely transient in
    nature.

    TC

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:

    "I wish this test had been done on those apples that deluge the USA from
    Washington state every year. They are picked so early that they taste
    like cardboard by the time they get to the store. I can't imagine their
    nutrition is all that wonderful, either. The test"

    The variety of apple in question is the most grown in the US and the most
    grown in washington state orchards and more often found in grocery stores
    then any other. Taste has been lost in favor of appearence in this
    variety but apprently not at the cost of important nutrients. Unlike much
    citrus fruit and the variety of bananna we get, apples are not picked at
    an immature stage for the most part because they stop ripening when picked
    and are stored in low oxyegen enviroments to [censored] spoilage.

    Quite so. I think they use nitrogen, at least in some cases.

    This still doesn't explain why the Washington state red delicious
    apples taste so lousy.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a
    deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty
    clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor

  5. David Wright said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:

    "I wish this test had been done on those apples that deluge the USA from
    Washington state every year. They are picked so early that they taste
    like cardboard by the time they get to the store. I can't imagine their
    nutrition is all that wonderful, either. The test"

    The variety of apple in question is the most grown in the US and the most
    grown in washington state orchards and more often found in grocery stores
    then any other. Taste has been lost in favor of appearence in this
    variety but apprently not at the cost of important nutrients. Unlike much
    citrus fruit and the variety of bananna we get, apples are not picked at
    an immature stage for the most part because they stop ripening when picked
    and are stored in low oxyegen enviroments to [censored] spoilage.

    Quite so. I think they use nitrogen, at least in some cases.

    This still doesn't explain why the Washington state red delicious
    apples taste so lousy.

    Having lived in WA, albeit over 30 years ago, I can attest to the fact
    that the ones bought in-state exceed the ones bought in NY since I
    experienced both.

  6. "This still doesn't explain why the Washington state red delicious
    apples taste so lousy."

    As mentioned in the original post, taste was sacrificed for appearance.
    Customers want a largish totaly unblimished symetrical fruit on their
    store shelves. Giving them what they wanted by selective breeding over
    generations did the trick. The downside came when sales started to drop
    and surveys showed movement toward more flavorful varieties. Many orchard
    owners pulled up whole orchards and started with other varieties, but it
    is still the most common variety sold. Look for them to have more flavor,
    but it will be some time because the life of a tree is around 50 years and
    a new tree doesn't yeild useful amounts of fruit for around 5 years or
    more.

  7. Welcome to the real world, it is quite a messy place. Do you think the
    researchers are unaware of this and don't try to control for as many
    variables as possible? As I recall without rereading, all the trees for
    all the varieties were from the same orchard.

    "The problem with this kind of quantification of nutrients in produce is
    that the various produce's nutrient values will vary considerably due
    to many, many, factors, such as:

    1) the variety of the crop 2) the health and nutrient content of the soil
    it is grown in 3) the weather, ie. temperatures and amount of rainfall,
    during the growth period 4) the quality of the water, ie. rain water vs.
    irrigation water 5) the time of picking of the produce, ie. before ripe,
    at ripe, after ripe 6) the length of time in storage and/or transit 7) the
    conditions it is exposed to in storage and/or in transit, ie. extreme heat
    or cold or nice cool temperatures, the air-tightness of the containers,
    etc. etc.

    The nutritive values will only apply to the specific batch of apples
    tested, from the specific field they were grown and in the year they were
    grown. The values cannot be assumed for the same variety of apples grown
    in a different field on different soil, in a different year, picked at a
    different time, stored for a different length of time, etc. They are
    trying to determine values that are extremely transient in nature."

  8. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "This still doesn't explain why the Washington state red delicious
    apples taste so lousy."

    As mentioned in the original post, taste was sacrificed for appearance.
    Customers want a largish totaly unblimished symetrical fruit on their
    store shelves. Giving them what they wanted by selective breeding over
    generations did the trick.

    I do not claim to be an expert in orchardry, but I was under the impression
    that all varietals of apples were propagated by grafting and that all Red
    Delicious apples were thus, in a sense, from the same tree, and genetically
    identical. Do orchardists actually selectively breed Red Delicious apples
    for marketable characteristics?

    --Rich

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Mark Probert said:
    David Wright said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:

    "I wish this test had been done on those apples that deluge the USA from
    Washington state every year. They are picked so early that they taste
    like cardboard by the time they get to the store. I can't imagine their
    nutrition is all that wonderful, either. The test"

    The variety of apple in question is the most grown in the US and the most
    grown in washington state orchards and more often found in grocery stores
    then any other. Taste has been lost in favor of appearence in this
    variety but apprently not at the cost of important nutrients. Unlike much
    citrus fruit and the variety of bananna we get, apples are not picked at
    an immature stage for the most part because they stop ripening when picked
    and are stored in low oxyegen enviroments to [censored] spoilage.

    Quite so. I think they use nitrogen, at least in some cases.

    This still doesn't explain why the Washington state red delicious
    apples taste so lousy.

    Having lived in WA, albeit over 30 years ago, I can attest to the fact
    that the ones bought in-state exceed the ones bought in NY since I
    experienced both.

    It's prepostrous that apples are actually transported from Washington
    to NY in the first place, as NY is one of the largest apple-producing
    states. Talk about carrying coals to Newcastle (and bad-tasting coals
    at that)...

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a
    deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty
    clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor

  10. "David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It's prepostrous that apples are actually transported from Washington
    to NY in the first place, as NY is one of the largest apple-producing
    states.

    We don't grow Red Delicious very well so it not uncommon to find
    Washington apples here. We grow some mean macs(plus a variey of others)
    that are hard to beat in nutrition or taste.

  11. "I do not claim to be an expert in orchardry, but I was under the
    impression that all varietals of apples were propagated by grafting and
    that all Red Delicious apples were thus, in a sense, from the same tree,
    and genetically identical. Do orchardists actually selectively breed Red
    Delicious apples for marketable characteristics?"

    Yes and no, propagation by grafting but selective breeding where desired
    qualities are propagated by selective controlled pollen exchange. Apple
    qualities can not be guaranteed by seeds so buds from trees having the
    desired fruiting qualities are grafted onto root stock. This is a real
    world example of the "birds and bees", helped along by human
    horticulturists.

  12. Doug Freese said:

    "David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It's prepostrous that apples are actually transported from Washington
    to NY in the first place, as NY is one of the largest apple-producing
    states.

    We don't grow Red Delicious very well so it not uncommon to find
    Washington apples here. We grow some mean macs(plus a variey of others)
    that are hard to beat in nutrition or taste.

    With different growing seasons and climates, not all varieties of apples
    can be grown in the same place.

  13. Roman Bystrianyk said:

    A study by scientists at Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada to be
    published this week indicates that of the eight main varieties of apple
    grown in Ontario, the Red Delicious is the most nutritious.

    Red Delicious apples contain more than five times as many antioxidants
    as Empire apples, the variety with the lowest antioxidant level, said
    the study's lead researcher, Rong Tsao.

    Well, I would say, back to Lobo!!

  14. On Thu, 26 May 2005 02:31:32 GMT, [email hidden] (David

    Wright) said:

    I wish this test had been done on those apples that deluge the USA
    from Washington state every year. They are picked so early that they
    taste like cardboard by the time they get to the store. I can't
    imagine their nutrition is all that wonderful, either. The test
    apples in this study were locally-grown.

    That's how they taste when arriving Norway too.
    Can't imagine any varities so tasteless as Red Delicious. (Agree the
    shining red skin (from waxing and highly polishing them) make them
    very delicious. But you learn quickly :-) )

  15. TC said:

    1) the variety of the crop
    2) the health and nutrient content of the soil it is grown in
    3) the weather, ie. temperatures and amount of rainfall, during the
    growth period

    Sun energy exposure pr square inch

    Very important.

  16. Roman Bystrianyk said:

    Red Delicious apples contain more than five times as many antioxidants
    as Empire apples, the variety with the lowest antioxidant level, said
    the study's lead researcher, Rong Tsao.

    Wonder where Red Ingrid Marie would fell here :-)

  17. Quoted message said:

    "I do not claim to be an expert in orchardry, but I was under the
    impression that all varietals of apples were propagated by grafting and
    that all Red Delicious apples were thus, in a sense, from the same tree,
    and genetically identical. Do orchardists actually selectively breed Red
    Delicious apples for marketable characteristics?"

    It is well known that even when forming by grafting, spurs may happen
    and you get new varieties. Natural background irradiation is the
    source of such spurs. Many new varities has been detected that way,
    like Ingrid Marie and Red Ingrid Marie (the big difference is in color
    satiation. Ingrid Marie looks like Red Delicious except not shiny,
    while Red Ingrid Marie is far darker in color.
    And in Scandinavia, another spur formed from parent is Red Torstein
    from Torstein. (Seldom grown today)

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Alf Christophersen said:

    On Thu, 26 May 2005 02:31:32 GMT, [email hidden] (David

    Wright) said:

    I wish this test had been done on those apples that deluge the USA
    from Washington state every year. They are picked so early that they
    taste like cardboard by the time they get to the store. I can't
    imagine their nutrition is all that wonderful, either. The test
    apples in this study were locally-grown.

    That's how they taste when arriving Norway too.
    Can't imagine any varities so tasteless as Red Delicious. (Agree the
    shining red skin (from waxing and highly polishing them) make them
    very delicious. But you learn quickly :-) )

    Also, if you eat one, you may fall into a deep sleep and can only be
    awakened by a kiss from a handsome prince. That's if you're female.
    I'm not sure what happens if you're male.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Are you going to come quietly, or do I have to use earplugs?"
    -- The Goon Show

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