brian0918 said:And yet the American Medical Association and the National Council
Against Health Fraud both recognize the nonsense of chiropractics. You
may want to read:
Oh yes, and we all know how smart the government is. The AMA got sued
by chiros and LOST in court. Think they might have an axe to grind?
Nonetheless, chiros are respected by most MD's for many years now. You
need to update the [censored] below.
Quoted message said:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiropractic
This site doesn't work, and Wikpedia is not know for it's accuracy.
Quoted message said:Of note is the founder of all of chiropractics, Daniel Palmer, who got
his start peddling "magnetic healing" cures in the 1880s. He then
invented out of thin air spinal misalignments, subluxations, and, of
course, the cure to all of these:
These are very real conditions. I know, because I would be unable to
even walk, nevermind run without chiropractic treatrment. MD's told me
I'd be in a wheelchair by the time I was 40. I'm in my late 40's and
run 9 miles a day, and lift every other day. You know what my MD said
when I told him I do that? That I'm "FULL OF [censored]". He simply does not
believe it.
Having to bring up the founder who lived over 100 years ago, and his
info is just showing your idiotic desperation. They also thought the
earth was flat. Sure there are chiros who think they can cure anything
with manipulation, but on the other end we have MD's who said laetrile
cured cancer, more that announced a cure for AIDS by freezing your
blood, and the list of MD quacks goes on and on, so this whole
discussion about quacks is pretty stupid.
The only reason they have a bad rep is because people like my mother
(a RN back in the 40's to 80's) told stories of a friend (unknown
name, because it was probably a stupid wives tale) whose husband had
back pain and sought relief from a chiro. When after two months of
treatment he still had pain, he went to an MD. He had bone cancer in
his spine, and died a month later. OF COURSE it was the chiros fault,
and the CHIRO killed him, not the cancer. And they blamed the chiro
when in all actuality it was his own fault for not going to an MD
first. These days chiros do xrays on your "first ever visit" to
prevent things like this from happening. My chiro, a second generation
chiro, has advised me several times to see an MD for suspicious things
that he felt maybe life threatening.
More recently, a couple years ago I started a thread called something
like "they want to stick WHAT up my ass?" when they/I thought I was
having bowel problems because I couldn't [censored], and I was bleeding
heavily. I sought out a MD who specializes in [censored] cancer, and he had
some pretty bizarre ideas about shoving scopes up my [censored]. I talked
him into writing me a note (recommendation) to go to a chiro, since my
insurance would pay if an MD did that. Several treatments later the
[censored] flowed like fine wine! When I returned to that MD a month later
he was amazed, and said there was no need to scope me. The muscles in
and around my [censored] were so bunched up it caused a large mass of
knotted muscles that were partially blocking my sphincter.
Although at that time Roidger frequented this forum, and I suspect his
verbal garbage was really the cause of the backup.
I now as I sit here, there is a marble sized knot on the right side on
my neck, at the very top of my spine. One good "crack" and it's gone
along with the headaches.
I could go on and on, but if you are too stupid to open your mind and
listen, like my mother was, then it'd just be a bigger waste of my
time.
The bottom line is people seek out chiros for troubles that chiros
cannot fix, then when they don't get results they cry about chiros
being quacks and crooks, when the fault lies with themselves for going
to the wrong kind of Dr to begin with.
New chiros of the last 20 or so years spend more time learning how to
make money than they do on studying anatomy or learning how to help
people. As a result there are many crooks in it just to make money,
not to help people.
Do you call osteopaths quacks too? They are MD's that manipulate you
as chiros do, but in a different, less traumatic way.
You can believe what you want, tens of millions disagree with your
archaic ideas.
