Recumbent team leading RAAM race

"derek" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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http://www.nevrona.com/raamstats/report.aspx?report=RacePosition

There you have it. If you look at last years results

http://www.raceacrossamerica.org/raam2003/riders2003/raceposition.htm

Then it would appear that everybody rides much harder when they are

chasing

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down recumbents. Too bad bents are ruled out of time trials now, because

it

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looks like an easy way to add 2-3 mph to your ride if you send a couple
bents off the front to play chase the the rabbit.

Why would recumbents be any different than riders on conventional bikes to
focus on chasing?

derek said:

http://www.raceacrossamerica.org/raam2003/riders2003/raceposition.htm

That webpage is 280K. Amazing.

JT

That's a good question Carl. It just seems like the teams are moving a lot
faster this year over basically the same course. Of course, lots of things,
such as the weather for instance, could also factor in. However, since
there was no HPV team to chase last year, it makes me wonder.

Maybe team Vail Go Fast were all riding mountain bikes last year and
switched to road bikes this year. . . .

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Why would recumbents be any different than riders on conventional bikes to
focus on chasing?

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 00:40:02 GMT, "derek" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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http://www.raceacrossamerica.org/raam2003/riders2003/raceposition.htm

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That webpage is 280K. Amazing.

From it,

meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 5.0"

Why am I not surprised.

It's so huge because every single stinking table entry has
two nearly identical lines of code which try to specify
the font, style, size, color, and what the font designer
had for lunch last Tuesday. Of course the whole point of
HTML is that the page designer doesn't need to specify
all that [censored]. Thanks, Mickeysoft!

BTW, that table is the race results for 2003, so it's entirely
irrelevant to this thread - I assume all the 2003 racers
have finished by now.

Carl Sundquist said:

Why would recumbents be any different than riders on conventional bikes to
focus on chasing?

The thrill of passing the smug little bent risers is so much greater
than that of passing someone normal.

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Carl Sundquist said:

Why would recumbents be any different than riders on conventional bikes

to

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focus on chasing?

The thrill of passing the smug little bent risers is so much greater
than that of passing someone normal.

Because they can see you approaching in their mirrors?

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Quoted message said:

http://www.nevrona.com/raamstats/report.aspx?report=RacePosition

There you have it. If you look at last years results

http://www.raceacrossamerica.org/raam2003/riders2003/raceposition.htm

Then it would appear that everybody rides much harder when they are

chasing

Quoted message said:

down recumbents. Too bad bents are ruled out of time trials now, because

it

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looks like an easy way to add 2-3 mph to your ride if you send a couple
bents off the front to play chase the the rabbit.

Yes, too bad bents can't be used in time trials. I'm sure they'd do well on
the Alpe de Huez stage this year.

Bob C.

In article <[email hidden]>, "derek"

Quoted message said:

http://www.nevrona.com/raamstats/report.aspx?report=RacePosition

There you have it. If you look at last years results

http://www.raceacrossamerica.org/raam2003/riders2003/raceposition.htm

Then it would appear that everybody rides much harder when they are chasing
down recumbents. Too bad bents are ruled out of time trials now, because it
looks like an easy way to add 2-3 mph to your ride if you send a couple
bents off the front to play chase the the rabbit.

While that final statement might be valid for Pro/1/2 racers in a standard
USAC TT, you'll have to explain how it relates to RAAM

All teams in RAAM start a day after solo riders.

I've witnessed some of the faster riders turn in significantly faster
splits as the teams go by, but solo vs team interaction is forbidden,
there is no drafting between teams and solos, and no one (support crew or
otherwise) is allowed to ride within sight of a solo rider - so the
"rabbit" idea is a stretch.

Cool animated crossing map for RAAM 2003:
http://www.caida.org/~dmoore/raam2003/

Cool animated crossing map for RAAM 2204
http://www.caida.org/~dmoore/raam2004/

BTW - RAAM 2004 is predicted to finish on Saturday, the 27th of June 2004.

Mike G.
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Mike,

Let's see what happens when the bent team hits the hills of W. Virginia
coming up soon. My guess is that although the Lightning team has a 100 mile
or so lead, when the hills come, the upright teams will take heart as they
get reports they are gaining on the bents. They will pour it on to try to
reel the bent team in as they struggle in the hills to keep thier average
speed up.

If it was an upright team with a 100 mile lead, the following teams would
probably just let them go. But the bents relative weakness in the hills will
be a temptation to ratchet things up for the following teams

"Mike Gladu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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While that final statement might be valid for Pro/1/2 racers in a standard
USAC TT, you'll have to explain how it relates to RAAM

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"derek" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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http://www.nevrona.com/raamstats/report.aspx?report=RacePosition

There you have it. If you look at last years results

http://www.raceacrossamerica.org/raam2003/riders2003/raceposition.htm

Then it would appear that everybody rides much harder when they are

chasing

Quoted message said:

down recumbents. Too bad bents are ruled out of time trials now,

because

Quoted message said:

it

Quoted message said:

looks like an easy way to add 2-3 mph to your ride if you send a couple
bents off the front to play chase the the rabbit.

Yes, too bad bents can't be used in time trials. I'm sure they'd do well

on

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the Alpe de Huez stage this year.

Bob C.

LMAO!!!
Dave