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Just A User wrote:
:: Any feed back on either the Bacchetta Giro 20 or the Volae tour? I am
:: thinking about plunking down some cash for a better recumbent. I
:: think I will opt for the carbon seat for the one I end up buying.

Just A User'? said:

Any feed back on either the Bacchetta Giro 20 or the Volae tour? I am
thinking about plunking down some cash for a better recumbent. I think I
will opt for the carbon seat for the one I end up buying.

Keep in mind that the Volae frames are built by Waterford Precision
Cycles in Waterford (where else?), Wisconsin [1], while the Bacchetta
steel frames are (the last time I checked) made in Taiwan [2]. While
there is nothing wrong quality-wise with any Taiwanese frame sold
through a LBS (that I am aware of), Waterford builds to a very high
standard.

[1] I must admit to some bias, since the workers at Waterford are
practically my neighbors.
[2] Non-mainland China for Jobst. 😉

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Roger Zoul said:

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Just A User wrote:
:: Any feed back on either the Bacchetta Giro 20 or the Volae tour? I am
:: thinking about plunking down some cash for a better recumbent. I
:: think I will opt for the carbon seat for the one I end up buying.

Yeah I have already posted a message there about these two bikes. Seems
to be limited feedback about them so I thought I would post here as well.

Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman said:

Just A User'? said:

Any feed back on either the Bacchetta Giro 20 or the Volae tour? I am
thinking about plunking down some cash for a better recumbent. I think I
will opt for the carbon seat for the one I end up buying.

Keep in mind that the Volae frames are built by Waterford Precision
Cycles in Waterford (where else?), Wisconsin [1], while the Bacchetta
steel frames are (the last time I checked) made in Taiwan [2]. While
there is nothing wrong quality-wise with any Taiwanese frame sold
through a LBS (that I am aware of), Waterford builds to a very high
standard.

[1] I must admit to some bias, since the workers at Waterford are
practically my neighbors.
[2] Non-mainland China for Jobst. 😉

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

I was curious about where the Bacchetta frames are made. Thanks for that
bit of info.

Just A User wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: bentrideronline.com
:::
::: Just A User wrote:
::::: Any feed back on either the Bacchetta Giro 20 or the Volae tour?
::::: I am thinking about plunking down some cash for a better
::::: recumbent. I think I will opt for the carbon seat for the one I
::::: end up buying.
:::
:::
:: Yeah I have already posted a message there about these two bikes.
:: Seems to be limited feedback about them so I thought I would post
:: here as well.

Any reason not to consider some other bike?

Roger Zoul said:

Just A User wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: bentrideronline.com
:::
::: Just A User wrote:
::::: Any feed back on either the Bacchetta Giro 20 or the Volae tour?
::::: I am thinking about plunking down some cash for a better
::::: recumbent. I think I will opt for the carbon seat for the one I
::::: end up buying.
:::
:::
:: Yeah I have already posted a message there about these two bikes.
:: Seems to be limited feedback about them so I thought I would post
:: here as well.

Any reason not to consider some other bike?

No not really, just those two are just the two that look best in my eye.
I also have the Lighting Phantom, Rans V-Rex and Barcroft Virgina GT on
my list. Although I think the Barcroft is a little out of my price bracket.

In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:04:25 -0400

Just A User said:

Any feed back on either the Bacchetta Giro 20 or the Volae tour? I am
thinking about plunking down some cash for a better recumbent. I think I
will opt for the carbon seat for the one I end up buying.

Why opt for the carbon seat?

The recurve is better for more upright (which is how I like it) most
folk find the euromesh an excellent compromise between comfort and
performance for the more laid back types.

I find my Giro a damn nice bike. Not that I've got much to compare it
with, only other bents I've ridden have been an early taiwanese one
and a Greenspeed trike.

Zebee

Just A User wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: Just A User wrote:
::::: Roger Zoul wrote:
:::::: bentrideronline.com
::::::
:::::: Just A User wrote:
:::::::: Any feed back on either the Bacchetta Giro 20 or the Volae
:::::::: tour? I am thinking about plunking down some cash for a better
:::::::: recumbent. I think I will opt for the carbon seat for the one I
:::::::: end up buying.
::::::
::::::
::::: Yeah I have already posted a message there about these two bikes.
::::: Seems to be limited feedback about them so I thought I would post
::::: here as well.
:::
::: Any reason not to consider some other bike?
:::
:::
:: No not really, just those two are just the two that look best in my
:: eye.
:: I also have the Lighting Phantom, Rans V-Rex and Barcroft Virgina GT
:: on
:: my list. Although I think the Barcroft is a little out of my price
:: bracket.

Don't you find having two wheel sizes to be a pain?

Roger Zoul said:

bentrideronline.com

Sounds like diverse competition for that cyclingsingles site.

Roger Zoul said:

Don't you find having two wheel sizes to be a pain?

Generally, no.
All it means (to me) is that one carries two spare tubes instead of just
one. Unless you're determined to travel ultra-light, it's generally not
a problem. -But then, if you want a light weight ride, it would be using
narrower tires and rims anyway, and carrying an extra 1" wide tube is
nothing--especially if it's a 20" diameter tube.

It did worry me when I bought my first recumbent [a 20f/26r wheel bike]
but I keep a spare set of tires at home and order another whenever I
destroy one. I tend to ruin them a lot slower than the U.P.S. truck can
bring them, so it's no problem.

What I think is more of a problem is if you buy a bike that uses a
relatively odd size wheel, like 451mm or 650(any!). This can become a
bothersome issue if you are touring and suddenly rip through your last
good tire in the middle of nowhere. ....If you buy a bike that uses 559
or 406mm wheels, you can walk into just about anywhere that sells
bicycle tires and find something that you can use (both in tubes and
tires). Even places like Wal-Mart and many hardware stores will have
something there.
~

Roger Zoul said:

Just A User wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: Just A User wrote:
::::: Roger Zoul wrote:
:::::: bentrideronline.com
::::::
:::::: Just A User wrote:
:::::::: Any feed back on either the Bacchetta Giro 20 or the Volae
:::::::: tour? I am thinking about plunking down some cash for a better
:::::::: recumbent. I think I will opt for the carbon seat for the one I
:::::::: end up buying.
::::::
::::::
::::: Yeah I have already posted a message there about these two bikes.
::::: Seems to be limited feedback about them so I thought I would post
::::: here as well.
:::
::: Any reason not to consider some other bike?
:::
:::
:: No not really, just those two are just the two that look best in my
:: eye.
:: I also have the Lighting Phantom, Rans V-Rex and Barcroft Virgina GT
:: on
:: my list. Although I think the Barcroft is a little out of my price
:: bracket.

Don't you find having two wheel sizes to be a pain?

No not really. I usually always have a set of spares at home. Plus the
spares that stay in my seatbag. And I always ride with a patch kit too.

Michael Warner said:

Roger Zoul said:

bentrideronline.com

Sounds like diverse competition for that cyclingsingles site.

No, it's a really good site for recumbent enthusiasts. No trolls like
the recumbent newsgroup.

Zebee Johnstone said:

In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:04:25 -0400

Just A User said:

Any feed back on either the Bacchetta Giro 20 or the Volae tour? I am
thinking about plunking down some cash for a better recumbent. I think I
will opt for the carbon seat for the one I end up buying.

Why opt for the carbon seat?

The recurve is better for more upright (which is how I like it) most
folk find the euromesh an excellent compromise between comfort and
performance for the more laid back types.

I find my Giro a damn nice bike. Not that I've got much to compare it
with, only other bents I've ridden have been an early taiwanese one
and a Greenspeed trike.

Zebee

From what I have read the carbon seat allows for a better transfer of
power. About the taiwanese frame, all three bikes currently in my stable
are asian made and all have been fine so far. So that fact doesn't scare me.

DougC wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
:::
::: Don't you find having two wheel sizes to be a pain?
:::
::
:: Generally, no.
:: All it means (to me) is that one carries two spare tubes instead of
:: just one. Unless you're determined to travel ultra-light, it's
:: generally not a problem. -But then, if you want a light weight ride,
:: it would be using narrower tires and rims anyway, and carrying an
:: extra 1" wide tube is nothing--especially if it's a 20" diameter
:: tube.

I see. I guess I worry that if you're having a really bad day, and get a
flat twice on the same wheel....

Also, you might grab the wrong size before some trip, only to find out
later. That one reason I got a 26/26. Another was the smaller front just
didnt seem to feel right to me....

With my DF (which I need to show love to too) and a 26/26, I already have
two sizes of tires and tubes to keep. Oh, I have two sizes of tires 1.25 and
1.5 inch) for my 26/26. It gets complicated after a while. If/when I had a
trike in here.... 🙂

::
:: It did worry me when I bought my first recumbent [a 20f/26r wheel
:: bike] but I keep a spare set of tires at home and order another
:: whenever I destroy one. I tend to ruin them a lot slower than the
:: U.P.S. truck can bring them, so it's no problem.
::
:: What I think is more of a problem is if you buy a bike that uses a
:: relatively odd size wheel, like 451mm or 650(any!). This can become a
:: bothersome issue if you are touring and suddenly rip through your
:: last good tire in the middle of nowhere. ....If you buy a bike that
:: uses 559 or 406mm wheels, you can walk into just about anywhere that
:: sells bicycle tires and find something that you can use (both in
:: tubes and tires). Even places like Wal-Mart and many hardware stores
:: will have something there.
:: ~

That makes sense.

Just A User wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: Just A User wrote:
::::: Roger Zoul wrote:
:::::: Just A User wrote:
:::::::: Roger Zoul wrote:
::::::::: bentrideronline.com
:::::::::
::::::::: Just A User wrote:
::::::::::: Any feed back on either the Bacchetta Giro 20 or the Volae
::::::::::: tour? I am thinking about plunking down some cash for a
::::::::::: better recumbent. I think I will opt for the carbon seat
::::::::::: for the one I end up buying.
:::::::::
:::::::::
:::::::: Yeah I have already posted a message there about these two
:::::::: bikes. Seems to be limited feedback about them so I thought I
:::::::: would post here as well.
::::::
:::::: Any reason not to consider some other bike?
::::::
::::::
::::: No not really, just those two are just the two that look best in
::::: my eye.
::::: I also have the Lighting Phantom, Rans V-Rex and Barcroft Virgina
::::: GT on
::::: my list. Although I think the Barcroft is a little out of my price
::::: bracket.
:::
::: Don't you find having two wheel sizes to be a pain?
:::
:::
:: No not really. I usually always have a set of spares at home. Plus
:: the spares that stay in my seatbag. And I always ride with a patch
:: kit too.

Me too. I guess I like to feel prepared for a nightmare when I'm out in the
middle of nowhere...less hassles....

Michael Warner wrote:
:: On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:23:14 -0400, Roger Zoul wrote:
::
::: bentrideronline.com
::
:: Sounds like diverse competition for that cyclingsingles site.

haha!

Roger Zoul said:

Just A User wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: Just A User wrote:
::::: Roger Zoul wrote:
:::::: Just A User wrote:
:::::::: Roger Zoul wrote:
::::::::: bentrideronline.com
:::::::::
::::::::: Just A User wrote:
::::::::::: Any feed back on either the Bacchetta Giro 20 or the Volae
::::::::::: tour? I am thinking about plunking down some cash for a
::::::::::: better recumbent. I think I will opt for the carbon seat
::::::::::: for the one I end up buying.
:::::::::
:::::::::
:::::::: Yeah I have already posted a message there about these two
:::::::: bikes. Seems to be limited feedback about them so I thought I
:::::::: would post here as well.
::::::
:::::: Any reason not to consider some other bike?
::::::
::::::
::::: No not really, just those two are just the two that look best in
::::: my eye.
::::: I also have the Lighting Phantom, Rans V-Rex and Barcroft Virgina
::::: GT on
::::: my list. Although I think the Barcroft is a little out of my price
::::: bracket.
:::
::: Don't you find having two wheel sizes to be a pain?
:::
:::
:: No not really. I usually always have a set of spares at home. Plus
:: the spares that stay in my seatbag. And I always ride with a patch
:: kit too.

Me too. I guess I like to feel prepared for a nightmare when I'm out in the
middle of nowhere...less hassles....

Yeah well I haven't had any "out in the middle of nowhere" incidents yet
(knock on wood) but I do believe in being prepared.

On Jul 30, 8:46 am, "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote:
....

Quoted message said:

Also, you might grab the wrong size before some trip, only to find out
later....

What's to grab? I leave my 571/650c spare tube in the seat bag I use
on the dual-571.

I leave a 622/700c spare tube in the seat wedge or pannier for my DF
road bikes.

I leave a 559/26" spare tube in the "bento box" attached to my 26"
wheeled fixed gear bike (or single speed MTB if I flip the rear wheel
and put knobbies on it :-).

The tool pod that I move bike to bike has a patch kit if I get more
than one flat on a ride.

On Jul 30, 8:46 am, "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote:
....

Quoted message said:

Also, you might grab the wrong size before some trip, only to find out
later....

What's to grab? I leave my 571/650c spare tube in the seat bag I use
on the dual-571.

I leave a 622/700c spare tube in the seat wedge or pannier for my DF
road bikes.

I leave a 559/26" spare tube in the "bento box" attached to my 26"
wheeled fixed gear bike (or single speed MTB if I flip the rear wheel
and put knobbies on it :-).

The tool pod that I move bike to bike has a patch kit if I get more
than one flat on a ride.