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"Bill B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I was doing some construction work in a gated community that is out in
the county.I was taking some scap building materal out to the street
and saw a guy on a LWB USS glide by. I called out"Hey Recumbent Guy"
and watched him almost dump the bike in the middle of the street.He
turned around and came back for a recumbent sreet side chat.Turns out
the bike was a Ryan.The owner let me ride the Ryan down the street and
back.My first distance of any amount on a USS.

So how was your short ride on the Ryan? I've been riding a Ryan since 1991
and think it's the greatest road touring bike ever. And how about that
panoramic USS world view?

skip

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"Bill B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I was doing some construction work in a gated community that is out in
the county.I was taking some scap building materal out to the street
and saw a guy on a LWB USS glide by. I called out"Hey Recumbent Guy"
and watched him almost dump the bike in the middle of the street.He
turned around and came back for a recumbent sreet side chat.Turns out
the bike was a Ryan.The owner let me ride the Ryan down the street and
back.My first distance of any amount on a USS.

So how was your short ride on the Ryan? I've been riding a Ryan since 1991
and think it's the greatest road touring bike ever. And how about that
panoramic USS world view?

skip

Hi Skip. The Ryan is a nice bike. The owner however removed the seat
horn[ala vision] and IMO this made for a uncomfortable ride.

I have ridden a Vanguard horned and hornless and found no remarkable
difference.

I was surprised to find the Green Gear Double Day's mesh seat to be
'horned'. Still comfortable.

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| Hi Skip. The Ryan is a nice bike. The owner however removed the seat
| horn[ala vision] and IMO this made for a uncomfortable ride.

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Hi Skip. The Ryan is a nice bike. The owner however removed the seat
horn[ala vision] and IMO this made for a uncomfortable ride.

The incredible (at least to me) all day, day after day comfort of the Ryan
seat comes from the sling mesh pocket formed by the recline angle of the
seat, the adjustable velcro'd straps, and last but not least, the seat horn.
I've ridden my Ryan with the seat horn accidentally disconnected and noticed
immediately that something was wrong. I felt as if I was sliding forward
out of the seat.

It takes a good deal of trial and error to find your personal sweet spot
with this seat. The original Ryan seat, like mine, is a real pain in the
butt to adjust the fore and aft and recline positions. It's best as a one
person bike unless you happen to have an identical twin.

skip

Doug Huffman said:

I have ridden a Vanguard horned and hornless and found no remarkable
difference.

I was surprised to find the Green Gear Double Day's mesh seat to be
'horned'. Still comfortable.

A friend of mine has an early production (2003) Double Day, and in my
opinion the stoker seat needs some refinement. One concern was a slight
downward tilt to the base, which caused a tendency to slide forward. On
this particular bike, the situation was improved by the addition of an
extra pad [1] under the seat cover. I found recumbent butt to be
somewhat of a problem on this seat.

[1] Purchased from The Bike Rack in St. Charles, IL. It is the material
that they use for the seats on wheelchairs and special physical needs HPV's.

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

Edward Dolan said:

Many have complained about the Vision seat horn over the years, but that
seat horn just makes the Vision seat in my opinion. I have many recumbent
bikes, all with different type seats, but there is nothing that even comes
close to the Vision seat for all day comfort. It was a true stroke of genius
when that seat was designed. I would get the Vision for the seat alone.

The Vision seat is also quite reclined on most of the bikes, which will
affect comfort in a positive manner for most people. It would be
instructive to hear a comfort comparison from someone who owned either a
R-30 or R-32 with their rather upright seating positions and a 40, 50 or
60 series Vision with the same design seat in a more reclined position.

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

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"Bill B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Hi Skip. The Ryan is a nice bike. The owner however removed the seat
horn[ala vision] and IMO this made for a uncomfortable ride.

The incredible (at least to me) all day, day after day comfort of the Ryan
seat comes from the sling mesh pocket formed by the recline angle of the
seat, the adjustable velcro'd straps, and last but not least, the seat

horn.

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I've ridden my Ryan with the seat horn accidentally disconnected and

noticed

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immediately that something was wrong. I felt as if I was sliding forward
out of the seat.

It takes a good deal of trial and error to find your personal sweet spot
with this seat. The original Ryan seat, like mine, is a real pain in the
butt to adjust the fore and aft and recline positions. It's best as a one
person bike unless you happen to have an identical twin.

skip

Many have complained about the Vision seat horn over the years, but that
seat horn just makes the Vision seat in my opinion. I have many recumbent
bikes, all with different type seats, but there is nothing that even comes
close to the Vision seat for all day comfort. It was a true stroke of genius
when that seat was designed. I would get the Vision for the seat alone.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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Edward Dolan said:

Many have complained about the Vision seat horn over the years, but that
seat horn just makes the Vision seat in my opinion. I have many

recumbent

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bikes, all with different type seats, but there is nothing that even

comes

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close to the Vision seat for all day comfort. It was a true stroke of

genius

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when that seat was designed. I would get the Vision for the seat alone.

The Vision seat is also quite reclined on most of the bikes, which will
affect comfort in a positive manner for most people. It would be
instructive to hear a comfort comparison from someone who owned either a
R-30 or R-32 with their rather upright seating positions and a 40, 50 or
60 series Vision with the same design seat in a more reclined position.

Yes, you are quite correct about how important the recline angle is for the
Vision seat. When I have set it fairly upright, it is not particularly
comfortable at all. But when it is sufficiently reclined it is as good as it
gets. One other thing I had to do to get nirvana with the Vision seat
(besides getting the recline right) is to get a better foam for the seat
base. You do not want to ever feel that seat horn.

I have never found an all mesh seat to be comfortable at all. I will get
recumbent butt after about a half hour on a mesh seat. I have to get some
foam on the seat base. The RANS seat is also very good, but it is not as
good as the Vision seat.

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Ed Dolan - Minnesota