recommended tool kit

In article <[email hidden]>, Simon Brooke
[email hidden] says...

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?Cat=cycle&ProdID=5360031530

Quoted message said:

There are no cone spanners

What are those 7 things at the bottom left of the picture?

"Rob Morley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Simon Brooke
[email hidden] says...

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?Cat=cycle&ProdID=5360031530

Quoted message said:

There are no cone spanners

What are those 7 things at the bottom left of the picture?

They're not conical, how can they be cone spanners? :-)

(to be fair, they're not listed in the description)

Back to the original question, I'd go with Rob's advice to get tools as and
when rather than getting a special toolkit. If I lost all my tools now
however I'd replace with:

red spokey
park portable chain rivet tool
normal allen keys in 2, 2.5, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, possibly even 10 (shimano
freehub removal) + hex bits in same to go with a 1/4" socket set (which I'd
have for stuff other than just bikes)
decent cable/housing cutters
cassette tool - one which takes spanner or socket rather than one with a
handle
chain whip
splined BB tool (I'm pleased with my lifu one, mentioned in another post -
get one with a 1/2" socket as well as spanner flats)
crank puller
the tool for holding the other side of chainring bolts when undoing/doing up
biggish pedal spanner
decent plastic tyre levers
8+10mm spanner
Other things such as vice, screwdrivers, adjustable spanner, torque wrench
are there too, but as 'normal'/car tools rather than bike-specific ones.

My 'travel' kit contains
Spokey
2,2.5,3,4,5,6 mm allen keys (ooh, better check the MTB for torx)
NBT2 cassette tool
Crank puller
Spanner to go with crank puller
Chain tool
8/10mm spanner
Chainring bolt tool
Tyre levers
Puncture kit
Swiss army knife with + and - screwdrivers
Spare quick links, spare links, couple of cable ties, nuts, bolts (double as
cannondale tandem eccentric tool)

cheers,
clive

In article said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Simon Brooke
[email hidden] says...

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?Cat=cycle&ProdID=5360031530

Quoted message said:

There are no cone spanners

What are those 7 things at the bottom left of the picture?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PRO-CYCLE-BIKE-TOOL-KIT-TOOLSET-34-PIECE-RRP-99-99-NEW_W0QQitemZ380003390023QQihZ025QQcategoryZ109122QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
looks very similar and says 7 cone spanners, so I think you are right

In article <[email hidden]>, Clive George
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

the tool for holding the other side of chainring bolts when undoing/doing up

I don't think I never needed this on my bikes, probably because I put
copper grease on the threads.

In article said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Clive George
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

the tool for holding the other side of chainring bolts when undoing/doing up

I don't think I never needed this on my bikes, probably because I put
copper grease on the threads.

For the ones I undid recently, a big flatbladed screwdriver did it for
the one that was turning when not held. But those are the only ones I've
ever done, so might not be typical.

Rob Morley said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Clive George
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

the tool for holding the other side of chainring bolts when
undoing/doing up

I don't think I never needed this on my bikes, probably because I put
copper grease on the threads.

The nuts can slip if they have grease on the /outsides/ - which they might
have picked up from a greasy-fingered mechanic.

Usually the grease will disperse by itself if you just turn it a few times,
then the nut will grip again without the use of a tool, except for your
finger pressing on it.

~PB

On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 10:54:37 -0000, Rob Morley <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

The other thing that can be really useful is a big vice mounted on a
solid bench (I just thought: I stick a bit of chain in the vice when
removing cassettes - you'll probably want a chain whip instead).

I've got a chain whip, but had huge trouble getting a cassette off the
other day - the chain kept sliping. Perhaps the cassette is too worn.
Or the chain on the whip is worn.

Anyway, I have several vices, one of which is bolted the bench in the
garage. Is the chain just gripped between the jaws of the vice and
left hanging out of one end of the vice?
--

Tim

I understand very little of what's being discussed
but for some reason it's fascinating.

(Jon Thompson, urs)

In article <[email hidden]>, Tim Hall
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 10:54:37 -0000, Rob Morley <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

The other thing that can be really useful is a big vice mounted on a
solid bench (I just thought: I stick a bit of chain in the vice when
removing cassettes - you'll probably want a chain whip instead).

I've got a chain whip, but had huge trouble getting a cassette off the
other day - the chain kept sliping. Perhaps the cassette is too worn.
Or the chain on the whip is worn.

Anyway, I have several vices, one of which is bolted the bench in the
garage. Is the chain just gripped between the jaws of the vice and
left hanging out of one end of the vice?

Basically. Make sure there's enough chain to wrap right around the
sprocket, to reduce the chance of damaging its teeth on the vice jaws.
I do it with the wheel vertical, but if your vice isn't mounted on the
end of the bench I guess you could try with it horizontal - I think that
at any other angle you're likely to bend teeth or break the chain.