Recommendations on rack/pannier systems?

"James Calivar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Paragon (hardtail); my bud has a Blur

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(full susp.).

Thanks,

J

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James Calivar said:

I'm going to be taking a 6 day trip in the backcountry with
a buddy, over mostly fireroads on my mountain bike, and
would like to know if anyone has any firsthand experience
with different rack/pannier systems. From what I
understand, the standard racks that I've seen that go over
the back wheel won't work for either of our bikes, since we
don't have braze-on mounts for them. Is there an alterntive
system that works for loads of up to maybe 25-30 pounds?
I've got a Gary Fisher Paragon (hardtail); my bud has a
Blur (full susp.).

There are several seatpost mounted rack systems out there
that are rated for up to 25 pounds. I've been very regularly
using one made by Delta and am very happy with it. No
connection to the bike other than the seat post (so make
sure you don't have a "stupidlite" seat post).

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the $695 ti frame

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Quoted message said:

I'm going to be taking a 6 day trip in the backcountry
with a buddy, over mostly fireroads on my mountain bike,
and would like to know if anyone has any firsthand
experience with different rack/pannier systems. From what
I understand, the standard racks that I've seen that go
over the back wheel won't work for either of our bikes,
since we don't have braze-on mounts for them. Is there an
alterntive system that works for loads of up to maybe 25-
30 pounds? I've got a Gary Fisher Paragon (hardtail); my
bud has a Blur (full susp.).

You can mount a standard rack on a hardtail with no braze-
ons. You just need an adapter kit. For the Hardtail I'd get
a Jandd Expedition--like standard but a little longer, so
you actually have enough heel clearance to mount panniers.
Modern mountain bikes have pretty short chainstays and often
don't work with regular racks & panniers.

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Quoted message said:

I'm going to be taking a 6 day trip in the backcountry
with a buddy, over mostly fireroads on my mountain bike,
and would like to know if anyone has any firsthand
experience with different rack/pannier systems. From what
I understand, the standard racks that I've seen that go
over the back wheel won't work for either of our bikes,
since we don't have braze-on mounts for them. Is there an
alterntive system that works for loads of up to maybe 25-
30 pounds? I've got a Gary Fisher Paragon (hardtail); my
bud has a Blur (full susp.).

Thanks,

J

If you have a hard tail bike even without braze ons you can
make it fit with brackets. On a full suspension there are
some really expensive racks that might fit it or you can use
a seat post mounted rack but I would recommend a BOB
trailer. You can pick up the discontinued BOB Coz trailer
pretty cheap if they were ever sold in Australia.
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James Calivar said:

I'm going to be taking a 6 day trip in the backcountry
with a buddy, over mostly fireroads on my mountain bike,
and would like to know if anyone has any firsthand
experience with different rack/pannier systems. From what
I understand, the standard racks that I've seen that go
over the back wheel won't work for either of our bikes,
since we don't have braze-on mounts for them. Is there an
alterntive system that works for loads of up to maybe 25-
30 pounds? I've got a Gary Fisher Paragon (hardtail); my
bud has a Blur (full susp.).

Thanks,

J

Topeak makes a rack for this purpose, and can add
attachments for pannier support for bikes without braze-on
mounts. I've used this system, and it is very good, can
hold 20lbs+, though I'm not sure it can carry enough for a
6 day outing.

topeak.comrack beam lead.htmlOpen ↗

Norco Axiom also has a seatpost setup that can handle
panniers. I had a version of this setup, non-pannier, and it
worked well on my HT.

norco.comseatmount.htmOpen ↗

Both are considerably less $$ than oldmanmountain.

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Quoted message said:

James Calivar said:

I'm going to be taking a 6 day trip in the backcountry
with a buddy, over mostly fireroads on my mountain bike,
and would like to know if anyone has any firsthand
experience with different rack/pannier systems. From
what I understand, the standard racks that I've seen
that go over the back wheel won't work for either of our
bikes, since we don't have braze-on mounts for them. Is
there an alterntive system that works for loads of up to
maybe 25-30 pounds? I've got a Gary Fisher Paragon
(hardtail); my bud has a Blur (full susp.).

Thanks,

J

Topeak makes a rack for this purpose, and can add
attachments for pannier support for bikes without braze-on
mounts. I've used this system, and it is very good, can
hold 20lbs+, though I'm not sure it can carry enough for a
6 day outing.

topeak.comrack beam lead.htmlOpen ↗

Norco Axiom also has a seatpost setup that can handle
panniers. I had a version of this setup, non-pannier, and
it worked well on my HT.

norco.comseatmount.htmOpen ↗

Both are considerably less $$ than oldmanmountain.

FYI Axiom also now has something similar to the old man
mountain rack for front panniers on suspension forks. I
put them on a couple bikes so far, works fine with
Marzocchi forks.
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James Calivar said:

I'm going to be taking a 6 day trip in the backcountry
with a buddy, over mostly fireroads on my mountain bike,
and would like to know if anyone has any firsthand
experience with different rack/pannier systems. From
what I understand, the standard racks that I've seen
that go over the back wheel won't work for either of our
bikes, since we don't have braze-on mounts for them. Is
there an alterntive system that works for loads of up to
maybe 25-30 pounds? I've got a Gary Fisher Paragon
(hardtail); my bud has a Blur (full susp.).

Thanks,

J

Topeak makes a rack for this purpose, and can add
attachments for pannier
norco.comseatmount.htmOpen ↗

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Both are considerably less $$ than oldmanmountain.

I'm not saying it can't be done, but when I toured off
road I could not get my seat post mounted rack to stay
centered. It always moved just enough to start rubbing and
in fact caught a strap in the spoke, almost ruined the
whole trip and ruined one pannier. I rode mostly fairly
rugged singletrack with fire roads and pavement thrown in
for good measure.

Has anyone else backcountry toured with a seatpost rack?

I'd ask the op to consider how rough the roads are going to
be before deciding what is and is not worth the money. If
the roads are smooth a seatpost rack may be great, if they
aren't - all I can tell you is what happened to me.

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James Calivar said:

I'm going to be taking a 6 day trip in the backcountry
with a buddy, over mostly fireroads on my mountain bike,
and would like to know if anyone has any firsthand
experience with different rack/pannier systems. From
what I understand, the standard racks that I've seen
that go over the back wheel won't work for either of our
bikes, since we don't have braze-on mounts for them. Is
there an alterntive system that works for loads of up to
maybe 25-30 pounds? I've got a Gary Fisher Paragon
(hardtail); my bud has a Blur (full susp.).

Thanks,

J

Topeak makes a rack for this purpose, and can add
attachments for pannier
norco.comseatmount.htmOpen ↗

<snip good info>

Quoted message said:

Both are considerably less $$ than oldmanmountain.

I'm not saying it can't be done, but when I toured off
road I could not get my seat post mounted rack to stay
centered. It always moved just enough to start rubbing and
in fact caught a strap in the spoke, almost ruined the
whole trip and ruined one pannier. I rode mostly fairly
rugged singletrack with fire roads and pavement thrown in
for good measure.

Has anyone else backcountry toured with a seatpost rack?

I'd ask the op to consider how rough the roads are going
to be before deciding what is and is not worth the money.
If the roads are smooth a seatpost rack may be great, if
they aren't - all I can tell you is what happened to me.

no one has mentioned a trailer like BOB...?

I have a Bell rack,seatpost mounted. I've carried up to 2 12
packs of beer with a lite handling problem. I've used it on
2 bikes over the last 5 years. Once 2 12 packs on rack and 1
balancing on the handlebar one handed.

I MTB 2004

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I have a Bell rack,seatpost mounted. I've
carried up to 2 12 packs of beer with a
lite handling problem. I've used it on 2
bikes over the last 5 years. Once 2 12
packs on rack and 1 balancing on the
handlebar one handed.

Why you drinking that lite urinated water?!? (And so
much of it! 🙂

Bill "Crazy, you so crazy" S.

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good measure.

Has anyone else backcountry toured with a seatpost
rack?

I'd ask the op to consider how rough the roads are going
to be before deciding what is and is not worth the
money. If the roads are smooth a seatpost rack may be
great, if they aren't - all I can tell you is what
happened to me.

no one has mentioned a trailer like BOB...?

That was my first suggestion but I guess I'm becoming
redundant.
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Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia ramsays-ramsays-Open ↗
online.com

"Chris Phillipo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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good measure.

Has anyone else backcountry toured with a seatpost
rack?

I'd ask the op to consider how rough the roads are
going to be before deciding what is and is not worth
the money. If the roads are smooth a seatpost rack may
be great, if they aren't - all I can tell you is what
happened to me.

no one has mentioned a trailer like BOB...?

That was my first suggestion but I guess I'm becoming
redundant.
--
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Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia ramsays-ramsays-Open ↗
online.com

If we just cared - I'm sure there is a great flame war in
the pannier v. trailer debate.

I've never used a trailer, but some people really
enjoy them.

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Those clips that allow a conventional rack to be put on a
bike without braze-ons sound nice as well.

For a full suspension I would really like to get the weight
off the shock if I could - that seems to be a trailer or
oldmanmountain.

Whatever the op chooses, I would say load it up and ride it
in similar conditions before the big day.

You should really have a great time.

I'd think the trailer would be easier to handle on off
road surfaces than having to balance all that stuff on
the bike?!?

I know pulling my kids trailer acts like an arrow quill
making the bike more stable once moving.

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> good measure.
>
> Has anyone else backcountry toured with a seatpost
> rack?
>
> I'd ask the op to consider how rough the roads are
> going to be

before

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> deciding what is and is not worth the money. If the
> roads are

smooth

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> a seatpost rack may be great, if they aren't - all I
> can tell you is what happened to me.

no one has mentioned a trailer like BOB...?

That was my first suggestion but I guess I'm becoming
redundant.
--
_________________________
Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia ramsays-ramsays-Open ↗
online.com

If we just cared - I'm sure there is a great flame war in
the pannier v. trailer debate.

I've never used a trailer, but some people really
enjoy them.

<crazyguyonabike.compicOpen ↗
l&pic_id=22345&mt

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ime=20040414180546&size=large>

Those clips that allow a conventional rack to be put on a
bike without braze-ons sound nice as well.

For a full suspension I would really like to get the
weight off the shock

if

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I could - that seems to be a trailer or oldmanmountain.

Whatever the op chooses, I would say load it up and ride
it in similar conditions before the big day.

You should really have a great time.

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I'd think the trailer would be easier to handle on off
road surfaces than having to balance all that stuff on
the bike?!?

I know pulling my kids trailer acts like an arrow quill
making the bike

more

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stable once moving.

But try checking a bike trailer onto an airplane...nope!