Recommend a cycling mag please

DSK said:

Can anyone recommend any well written cycling magazines and preferably
with more road racing cycle stuff bias rather than mountain bikes.

Cycling Weekly.

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Quoted message said:

Can anyone recommend any well written cycling magazines and preferably
with more road racing cycle stuff bias rather than mountain bikes.

Next time your're in a large town call into WHS (or similar) and test read a
few. That's what I do and often end up buying none on the basis that I don't
need to spend 3 1/2 quid to read the same article I read last year and
perhaps the year before.

Seriously, as already suggested Cycling Weekly, AKA The Comic, is mainly
about competive road cycling and being a weekly is current.
Cycle Sport is a monthly for the same market.
Cycling Plus is good but generalised.
MBR is for trail riding mtb'ers.
Singletrack is quality mtb'ing.
MBUK is what adolescents hide their [censored] mag in when sneaking to the bog.

Pete

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Popped into my local news agents the other day and notcied only a
couple of magazines related to cycling and the ones I had a quick
glance through didin't inspire me to buy it and read it.

Can anyone recommend any well written cycling magazines and preferably
with more road racing cycle stuff bias rather than mountain bikes.

Singletrack <URL:http://www.singletrackworld.com/>
Mountain biking for grown-ups; bi-monthly
VeloVision <URL:http://www.velovision.co.uk/>
Interesting/unusual bikes; quarterly.

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DSK said:

Popped into my local news agents the other day and notcied only a couple
of magazines related to cycling and the ones I had a quick glance
through didin't inspire me to buy it and read it.

For car magazines, I only buy 'EVO'. For motorcycles I buy 'Two Wheels
Only' and 'BIKE'. This may give some of you an idea as to what I like.
Basically, high quality right ups/tests as opposed to 'picture book'
type of magazines that just list a spec and say 'its great' or '[censored]'

Can anyone recommend any well written cycling magazines and preferably
with more road racing cycle stuff bias rather than mountain bikes.

Thanks.

Quoted message said:

Can anyone recommend any well written cycling magazines and preferably
with more road racing cycle stuff bias rather than mountain bikes.

Thanks.

I must admit I can't. I've read most of them now and can't say any of
them are particularly well written or interesting. Even though I'm not
really into mountain biking I find those magazines more interesting
than the road orientated mags (Cycling Plus and Cycling Weekly).
Cycling Weekly has to be one of the dullest most boring mags I've ever
seen. I'd go with the recommendation of trying to sample a few in wh
smiths. You may find that none are worth your money.

I tend to buy a lot of mags generally as I work nights and like
something to read at dinner time (about 1am in the morning). I buy
console, computer and quite a few other mags but not much in the way
of cycling mags.

I'd like to see a community cycling mag perhaps a pdf download that we
could all contribute to with articles. Theres a lot of talented people
here in this forum who could probably spare a bit of time to write an
article or two. Theres quite a few forum postings that would form the
basis of interesting articles too. I've often found the writings of
enthusiasts more interesting than professional mag writers who are a
lot of the time not true enthusiasts although admittedly some are.

Martin Wilson said:

I must admit I can't. I've read most of them now and can't say any of
them are particularly well written or interesting.

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Quoted message said:

I'd like to see a community cycling mag perhaps a pdf download that we
could all contribute to with articles. Theres a lot of talented people
here in this forum who could probably spare a bit of time to write an
article or two. Theres quite a few forum postings that would form the
basis of interesting articles too. I've often found the writings of
enthusiasts more interesting than professional mag writers who are a
lot of the time not true enthusiasts although admittedly some are.

Perhaps have a look at VeloVision. It's mainly the work of an
enthusiast (trained as a mechanical engineer rather than a journo, I
believe) but with others writing pieces too, and is more a cycle culture
magazine than anything else. Quarterly, can be found in a few bike
shops but is mostly bought on subscription. The resubscription rates
are about 80% (and are /not/ a default "do nothing, automatically
resubscibe", you have to actively make an effort to resub), which says
something about the quality.

Downsides are it's quite expensive per issue (£24 for a year's sub) and
you have to wait 3 months for the next one.

Note VV wouldn't be much use for the OP's desire of a roadie's mag.

More details at http://www.velovision.co.uk/

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Quoted message said:

I'd like to see a community cycling mag perhaps a pdf download that
we could all contribute to with articles. Theres a lot of talented
people here in this forum who could probably spare a bit of time to
write an article or two. Theres quite a few forum postings that would
form the basis of interesting articles too. I've often found the
writings of enthusiasts more interesting than professional mag
writers who are a lot of the time not true enthusiasts although
admittedly some are.

Perhaps have a look at VeloVision.  It's mainly the work of an
enthusiast (trained as a mechanical engineer rather than a journo, I
believe) but with others writing pieces too, and is more a cycle
culture magazine than anything else.  Quarterly, can be found in a few
bike shops but is mostly bought on subscription.  The resubscription
rates are about 80% (and are not a default "do nothing, automatically
resubscibe", you have to actively make an effort to resub), which says
something about the quality.

I'd endorse all that about VeloVision, but agree (i) that there is a
shortage of well-written cycling stuff about, and (ii) that several of
us on this group do from time to time wite good stuff.

I've been collecting my own longer cycling stuff into a blog here
<URL:http://www.jasmine.org.uk:8180/dogfood/news?category=2>; you can
get an RSS syndication feed of it here:
<URL:http://www.jasmine.org.uk:8180/dogfood/rss?category=2>. If anyone
else here has a cycling blog I'd be most happy to trade links... Guy,
can your website system generate RSS feeds? Would anyone be interested
in contributing to a strictly just-for-fun online cycling magazine?

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Quoted message said:

Would anyone be interested
in contributing to a strictly just-for-fun online cycling magazine?

http://bikereader.com is well worth a read...

Mark

Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote:
: I've been collecting my own longer cycling stuff into a blog here
: <URL:http://www.jasmine.org.uk:8180/dogfood/news?category=2>; you can

Grrr, non-standard ports, grrrr.

Any user's on our campus classroom PCs wouldn't be able to see that site....

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Arthur Clune said:

Simon Brooke said:

I've been collecting my own longer cycling stuff into a blog here
<URL:http://www.jasmine.org.uk:8180/dogfood/news?category=2>; you can

Grrr, non-standard ports, grrrr.

Presumably a temporary measure?

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Arthur Clune said:

Simon Brooke said:

I've been collecting my own longer cycling stuff into a blog here
<URL:http://www.jasmine.org.uk:8180/dogfood/news?category=2>; you
can

Grrr, non-standard ports, grrrr.

Presumably a temporary measure?

Not really, a consequence or running many HTTP daemons on one box. I
could, of course, get Apache (which does run on port 80) to proxy for
the others, but I've never before seen a need.

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Simon Brooke said:

I've been collecting my own longer cycling stuff into a blog here
<URL:http://www.jasmine.org.uk:8180/dogfood/news?category=2>; you can
get an RSS syndication feed of it here:
<URL:http://www.jasmine.org.uk:8180/dogfood/rss?category=2>. If anyone
else here has a cycling blog I'd be most happy to trade links... Guy,
can your website system generate RSS feeds?

I'd be seriously disappointed if it couldn't, what with him being in
the trade. IIRC he uses Domino, and it looks simple to generate RSS
from it.

Quoted message said:

Would anyone be interested in contributing to a strictly
just-for-fun online cycling magazine?

Does reading count as contributing? I'd be interested in that. I might
submit the odd thing, too.

A

Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote:

: Not really, a consequence or running many HTTP daemons on one box. I
: could, of course, get Apache (which does run on port 80) to proxy for
: the others, but I've never before seen a need.

Lots of sites block non-standard ports at their web-cache, including us.
It saves more grief than it creates by a fair margin. Our policy isn't
even that facist compared to some.

I don't think there's any reason to have public sites on ports other
than 80 these days.

Arthur

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Arthur Clune said:

Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote:

: Not really, a consequence or running many HTTP daemons on one box. I
: could, of course, get Apache (which does run on port 80) to proxy for
: the others, but I've never before seen a need.

Lots of sites block non-standard ports at their web-cache, including us.
It saves more grief than it creates by a fair margin. Our policy isn't
even that facist compared to some.

I don't think there's any reason to have public sites on ports other
than 80 these days.

AFAICT, it wasn't intended as a public site, more just something he
had lying around. I see your point, though.

A

quote='Ambrose Nankivell''Arthur Clune said:

Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote:

: Not really, a consequence or running many HTTP daemons on one box. I
: could, of course, get Apache (which does run on port 80) to proxy for
: the others, but I've never before seen a need.

Lots of sites block non-standard ports at their web-cache, including us.
It saves more grief than it creates by a fair margin. Our policy isn't
even that facist compared to some.

I don't think there's any reason to have public sites on ports other
than 80 these days.

AFAICT, it wasn't intended as a public site, more just something he
had lying around. I see your point, though.

A[/QUOTE]
thankyou all for your responses. I will pop into town one day soon and flick through some of the ones mentioned and willalso start having a look at the links mentioned too.

On 26 Aug 2004 13:12:26 GMT, "Arthur Clune" <[email hidden]> wrote
(more or less):

Quoted message said:

Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote:

: Not really, a consequence or running many HTTP daemons on one box. I
: could, of course, get Apache (which does run on port 80) to proxy for
: the others, but I've never before seen a need.

Lots of sites block non-standard ports at their web-cache, including us.
It saves more grief than it creates by a fair margin. Our policy isn't
even that facist compared to some.

I don't think there's any reason to have public sites on ports other
than 80 these days.

Not every http daemon on a box plays nicely with all the others.

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Gawnsoft <[email hidden]> wrote:

: Not every http daemon on a box plays nicely with all the others.

Indeed, but that's why you need more boxes 🙂

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Gawnsoft <[email hidden]> wrote:

: Not every http daemon on a box plays nicely with all the others.

Indeed, but that's why you need more boxes 🙂

That's fine but I have only five effective outward facing IP addresses
to play with. Yes, I know I could proxy through the firewall but I
choose not to do that. Boxes in my perimeter cannot see into my secure
zone at all, and that's the way I want to keep it.

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DSK said:

Popped into my local news agents the other day and notcied only a couple
of magazines related to cycling and the ones I had a quick glance
through didin't inspire me to buy it and read it.

For car magazines, I only buy 'EVO'. For motorcycles I buy 'Two Wheels
Only' and 'BIKE'. This may give some of you an idea as to what I like.
Basically, high quality right ups/tests as opposed to 'picture book'
type of magazines that just list a spec and say 'its great' or '[censored]'

Can anyone recommend any well written cycling magazines and preferably
with more road racing cycle stuff bias rather than mountain bikes.

Cycling Plus is probably the best of a bad bunch, but they studiously
ignore mountain bikes these days and have far too many reviews on racing
bikes that cost upwards of two grand.

The CTC magazine is surprisingly similar to C+ but focused on touring,
obviously. You get it if you join (http://www.ctc.org.uk).