Recom. for SPD-R pedal?

Zilla said:

I use the same cleats for my MTB and road bikes
and want to keep it that way.

Me too. One pair of shoes does the whole shebang.

Quoted message said:

I now have these on
my road bike. http://tinyurl.com/qlfoe

Looks like a good choice. I like the Shimano A520 myself.

lickbike.comproductpage.aspxOpen ↗

Quoted message said:

However, they don't position themselves well when
I unclip, that is, they don't go vertical, or don't point
up, so I have a hard time clipping back in. Any recoms
for a decent road pedal that will work better and work
for me?

I have some problems sometimes with my A520 getting positioned, but I
usually end up getting it 80% of the time, and if not, I go by feel and keep
my eyes on the road.

If you don't ride in the wet or get caught in the rain often, the easiest,
cheapest solution is to dribble some light oil into the bearings, which will
thin out the grease (I hear that grease makes a great pudding!) and cause
the pedal to more naturally fall downward so that you can get used to the
"flip-the-nose-of-the-pedal-up-with-the-toe-then-slide-the-cleat-into-the-pedal"
regimen.

--
Phil, Squid-in-Training

"Phil, Squid-in-Training" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message news:2QHTf.36971$2c4.20824@dukeread11...

Quoted message said:

Zilla said:

I use the same cleats for my MTB and road bikes
and want to keep it that way.

Me too. One pair of shoes does the whole shebang.

Quoted message said:

I now have these on
my road bike. http://tinyurl.com/qlfoe

Looks like a good choice. I like the Shimano A520 myself.

lickbike.comproductpage.aspxOpen ↗

Quoted message said:

However, they don't position themselves well when
I unclip, that is, they don't go vertical, or don't point
up, so I have a hard time clipping back in. Any recoms
for a decent road pedal that will work better and work
for me?

I have some problems sometimes with my A520 getting positioned, but I
usually end up getting it 80% of the time, and if not, I go by feel and
keep my eyes on the road.

If you don't ride in the wet or get caught in the rain often, the easiest,
cheapest solution is to dribble some light oil into the bearings, which
will thin out the grease (I hear that grease makes a great pudding!) and
cause the pedal to more naturally fall downward so that you can get used
to the
"flip-the-nose-of-the-pedal-up-with-the-toe-then-slide-the-cleat-into-the-pedal"
regimen.

--
Phil, Squid-in-Training

I also use the same shoes and cleats for road and mountain-- I have m520s on
both bikes and am happy with them. What is the advantage to the road
specific spd pedals, other than they seem to be lighter? That being asked. I
only do about 1000 miles a year on my road bike and have been toying with
getting road specific pedals and shoes this year. Is it a an upgrade that is
worth the money or that I'll notice?

Steve

Quoted message said:

In article <2QHTf.36971$2c4.20824@dukeread11>,
"Phil, Squid-in-Training"

Quoted message said:

Zilla said:

I use the same cleats for my MTB and road bikes
and want to keep it that way.

Me too. One pair of shoes does the whole shebang.

Quoted message said:

I now have these on
my road bike. http://tinyurl.com/qlfoe

Looks like a good choice. I like the Shimano A520 myself.

lickbike.comproductpage.aspxOpen ↗

Quoted message said:

However, they don't position themselves well when
I unclip, that is, they don't go vertical, or don't point
up, so I have a hard time clipping back in. Any recoms
for a decent road pedal that will work better and work
for me?

I have some problems sometimes with my A520 getting positioned, but I
usually end up getting it 80% of the time, and if not, I go by feel and keep
my eyes on the road.

If you don't ride in the wet or get caught in the rain often, the easiest,
cheapest solution is to dribble some light oil into the bearings, which will
thin out the grease (I hear that grease makes a great pudding!)

No, it's a floor wax!

Quoted message said:

and cause
the pedal to more naturally fall downward so that you can get used to the
"flip-the-nose-of-the-pedal-up-with-the-toe-then-slide-the-cleat-into-the-pedal"
regimen.

--
Michael Press

"Phil, Squid-in-Training" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message news:2QHTf.36971$2c4.20824@dukeread11...

Quoted message said:

Zilla said:

I use the same cleats for my MTB and road bikes
and want to keep it that way.

Me too. One pair of shoes does the whole shebang.

Quoted message said:

I now have these on
my road bike. http://tinyurl.com/qlfoe

Looks like a good choice. I like the Shimano A520 myself.

lickbike.comproductpage.aspxOpen ↗

Quoted message said:

However, they don't position themselves well when
I unclip, that is, they don't go vertical, or don't point
up, so I have a hard time clipping back in. Any recoms
for a decent road pedal that will work better and work
for me?

I have some problems sometimes with my A520 getting positioned, but I
usually end up getting it 80% of the time, and if not, I go by feel and

keep

Quoted message said:

my eyes on the road.

If you don't ride in the wet or get caught in the rain often, the easiest,
cheapest solution is to dribble some light oil into the bearings, which

will

Quoted message said:

thin out the grease (I hear that grease makes a great pudding!) and cause
the pedal to more naturally fall downward so that you can get used to the

"flip-the-nose-of-the-pedal-up-with-the-toe-then-slide-the-cleat-into-the-pe
dal"

Quoted message said:

regimen.

--
Phil, Squid-in-Training

Yeah I've dabbed oil on them already since I don't ride
wet weather. I eventually get clipped in, but I just noticed
that it's easier when the pedals just do happen to be
positioned correctly, which is about 60% of the time.

Why not MTB pedals someone asked? Because the
pedals I bought were cheaper at that time. 🙂

--
- Zilla
Cary, NC USA
(Remove XSPAM)

Zilla said:

I use the same cleats for my MTB and road bikes
and want to keep it that way. I now have these on
my road bike. http://tinyurl.com/qlfoe

However, they don't position themselves well when
I unclip, that is, they don't go vertical, or don't point
up, so I have a hard time clipping back in. Any recoms
for a decent road pedal that will work better and work
for me?

--
- Zilla
Cary, NC USA
(Remove XSPAM)

Those aren't SPD-R. These are:
http://www.greggscycles.com/cartgenie/images/large/7701.jpg

The cleats don't mount side/side, but top/bottom. Here are the cleats:
http://www.pricepoint.com/images/styleImages/D_090%20SHISP2.jpg

Zilla said:

I use the same cleats for my MTB and road bikes
and want to keep it that way. I now have these on
my road bike. http://tinyurl.com/qlfoe

However, they don't position themselves well when
I unclip, that is, they don't go vertical, or don't point
up, so I have a hard time clipping back in. Any recoms
for a decent road pedal that will work better and work
for me?

--
- Zilla
Cary, NC USA
(Remove XSPAM)

Speedplay Zero. Well made, very maintainable, two sided, 'step onna
bug' entry, big platform, great pedal.

"Andrew F Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Zilla said:

I use the same cleats for my MTB and road bikes
and want to keep it that way. I now have these on
my road bike. http://tinyurl.com/qlfoe

However, they don't position themselves well when
I unclip, that is, they don't go vertical, or don't point
up, so I have a hard time clipping back in. Any recoms
for a decent road pedal that will work better and work
for me?

--
- Zilla
Cary, NC USA
(Remove XSPAM)

Those aren't SPD-R. These are:
http://www.greggscycles.com/cartgenie/images/large/7701.jpg

The cleats don't mount side/side, but top/bottom. Here are the cleats:
http://www.pricepoint.com/images/styleImages/D_090%20SHISP2.jpg

Thanks, you're correct. I meant "SPD"

--
- Zilla
Cary, NC USA
(Remove XSPAM)

"Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Zilla said:

I use the same cleats for my MTB and road bikes
and want to keep it that way. I now have these on
my road bike. http://tinyurl.com/qlfoe

However, they don't position themselves well when
I unclip, that is, they don't go vertical, or don't point
up, so I have a hard time clipping back in. Any recoms
for a decent road pedal that will work better and work
for me?

--
- Zilla
Cary, NC USA
(Remove XSPAM)

Speedplay Zero. Well made, very maintainable, two sided, 'step onna
bug' entry, big platform, great pedal.

Are they SPD compatible? (IOW, did you read my post?)

--
- Zilla
Cary, NC USA
(Remove XSPAM)

Zilla said:

I use the same cleats for my MTB and road bikes
and want to keep it that way. I now have these on
my road bike. http://tinyurl.com/qlfoe

However, they don't position themselves well when
I unclip, that is, they don't go vertical, or don't point
up, so I have a hard time clipping back in. Any recoms
for a decent road pedal that will work better and work
for me?

This is typical of one-sided road pedals. You have to become
accustomed to flipping the pedal flat with your toe, and sliding
forward for engagement. It's much harder with tiny SPD road pedals
than it is with Look, Campagnolo, Shimano ... Look copies. There's
always Speedplay but I didn't care for them either (see below).

It's not entirely clear what you're trying to do. My deduction is that
you bought A520's to match your one pair of shoes, both bikes
philosophy. That is, you want SPD pedals for your road bike to match
the pedals on you mtb. If so, I would just get some Shimano M520's or
better (540's or better for me). You will be told about the
superiority of Speedplay, BeBop, Eggbeaters, etc., but I think Shimano
has the best pedal for the money. I haven't used BeBops, but Speedplay
left me short because they require constant maintenance (which is
easy), and I had cleat issues (which, in all fairness, they are
supposed to have fixed). This is also true of the road pedals. They
work great but have issues with which I'd rather not deal. Regarding
the healthfulness of float on your knees, I wouldn't take a pedal
manufacturers recommendation on that. As for the Eggbeaters, they work
fine but had inferior bearings and lack adjustable tension. I rode all
these pedals except BeBop extensively and settled on Shimano SPD.
Also, the cleats are ubiquitous, most durable and least expensive
available.

Get the Shimano 520's or better.

Which pedals are you using on your mtb?

Robin

Quoted message said:

- Zilla
Cary, NC USA
(Remove XSPAM)

Robin Hubert said:

Zilla said:

I use the same cleats for my MTB and road bikes
and want to keep it that way. I now have these on
my road bike. http://tinyurl.com/qlfoe

However, they don't position themselves well when
I unclip, that is, they don't go vertical, or don't point
up, so I have a hard time clipping back in. Any recoms
for a decent road pedal that will work better and work
for me?

This is typical of one-sided road pedals. You have to become
accustomed to flipping the pedal flat with your toe, and sliding
forward for engagement. It's much harder with tiny SPD road pedals
than it is with Look, Campagnolo, Shimano ... Look copies. There's
always Speedplay but I didn't care for them either (see below).

It's not entirely clear what you're trying to do. My deduction is
that you bought A520's to match your one pair of shoes, both bikes
philosophy. That is, you want SPD pedals for your road bike to match
the pedals on you mtb. If so, I would just get some Shimano M520's or
better (540's or better for me). You will be told about the
superiority of Speedplay, BeBop, Eggbeaters, etc., but I think Shimano
has the best pedal for the money. I haven't used BeBops, but
Speedplay left me short because they require constant maintenance
(which is easy),
and I had cleat issues (which, in all fairness, they
are supposed to have fixed).

Look's Phillips/flat head screws *suck.* They cannot be torqued adequately
and require threadlocker.

Quoted message said:

This is also true of the road pedals.

Speedplay's tiny Phillips head screws also suck like the Looks.
Threadlocker also required.

Quoted message said:

They work great but have issues with which I'd rather not deal.
Regarding the healthfulness of float on your knees, I wouldn't take a
pedal manufacturers recommendation on that. As for the Eggbeaters,
they work fine but had inferior bearings and lack adjustable tension.

Ooh, yay, super-light and self-destructing! I shall avoid these at all
costs.

Quoted message said:

I rode all these pedals except BeBop extensively and settled on
Shimano SPD.

Me too.

Quoted message said:

Also, the cleats are ubiquitous, most durable and least
expensive available.

Thank goodness for that... the cleat fasteners have hex heads... they appear
to be the only ones I've seen that use hi-torque hex head screws.

Quoted message said:

Get the Shimano 520's or better.

I agree... there isn't much better. The M324s are good for a commuter/café
bike.

I'm going to try the Ritchey V4 pedals: the road pedals are similar in
weight to the eggbeaters but are stainless and not titanium therefore they
flex less and the bearings last longer. The MTB pedals are just plain
light!

--
Phil, Squid-in-Training

Dans le message de news:moqVf.3130$fS6.2497@dukeread11,
Phil, Squid-in-Training <[email hidden]> a réfléchi,
et puis a déclaré :

Quoted message said:

Robin Hubert said:

Zilla said:

I use the same cleats for my MTB and road bikes
and want to keep it that way. I now have these on
my road bike. http://tinyurl.com/qlfoe

However, they don't position themselves well when
I unclip, that is, they don't go vertical, or don't point
up, so I have a hard time clipping back in. Any recoms
for a decent road pedal that will work better and work
for me?

This is typical of one-sided road pedals. You have to become
accustomed to flipping the pedal flat with your toe, and sliding
forward for engagement. It's much harder with tiny SPD road pedals
than it is with Look, Campagnolo, Shimano ... Look copies. There's
always Speedplay but I didn't care for them either (see below).

It's not entirely clear what you're trying to do. My deduction is
that you bought A520's to match your one pair of shoes, both bikes
philosophy. That is, you want SPD pedals for your road bike to
match the pedals on you mtb. If so, I would just get some Shimano
M520's or better (540's or better for me). You will be told about
the superiority of Speedplay, BeBop, Eggbeaters, etc., but I think
Shimano has the best pedal for the money. I haven't used BeBops, but
Speedplay left me short because they require constant maintenance
(which is easy),
and I had cleat issues (which, in all fairness, they
are supposed to have fixed).

Look's Phillips/flat head screws *suck.* They cannot be torqued
adequately and require threadlocker.

And they persisted with that stupid design so long ! Last fall, I learned
that they have finally come up with a new version ; it's still double cut
for flats, but it has a hex-key relief also. I found that lubricating the
screw worked better than a threadlock.
--
Bonne route !

Sandy
Verneuil-sur-Seine FR