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Reckless, Aggressive Drivers: Homegrown Terrorists

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  1. I've vowed to fight terrorism... ROAD TERRORISM. It's not even that I
    go looking for trouble, trouble looks for me, and sometimes for those
    near me.

    Anyway, the first "accident" (see book "It's No Accident"😉 happened to
    a neighbor of mine who, like me, rides a scooter. Well, she started
    from the green light when a car ran the light and... smashed leg and
    who knows what else. Beautiful lady, beautiful no more. And she was
    lucky it wasn't an SUV with their raised "macho" bumpers... Well, the
    guy did stop (wasn't she lucky?) and was very sorry. But chances are
    he was speeding, or on the cell phone or trying to beat the light or
    everything at once. Everybody does it, right?

    Well the second incident was really minor compared to this one, but
    happened to my girlfriend with whom I was riding bike on the road...
    First thing a car comes real close to her and cuts her off while
    turning. I guess people riding bikes are not worth losing a few
    seconds, and they are simply ignored. Well sometimes they get
    noticed... Second thing she gets yelled at from an SUV, "[censored]!"...
    and my girlfriend gives her the finger (yes, she does it too) before
    doing the smart move (?) and taking the sidewalk.

    It would be so easy to put speed cameras on traffic lights and catch
    all those terrorists with a License to Kill. And that would take some
    politicians who make an issue out of traffic safety... or a revolution
    (see below), but that's another issue. 😉

    In the meantime here's a debate from the past about terrorists and
    speed cameras in civilized places like Germany...

    "Red light camera solution?"
    "Big Boy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...
    : These systems intrigue (and disgust) me.
    :
    : I was doing a deja.com search and noticed
    : that they have them in Arizona. I am
    : in Idaho where fortunately we don't have
    : scum taking away even more of our
    : freedom.

    Freedom to speed and run red lights? What is there about "breaking the
    law"
    that you don't understand? Are you against the idea of security
    cameras in
    your place of business to protect you and your property?

    Or are you one that figures "if I make it through and don't kill
    anyone else
    I haven't really violated the law"?

    The real solution is very simple - obey the law. Then you can drive
    with a
    clear conscience and not have to worry about getting your picture
    taken. You
    can even save the cost of the hair spray...

    ---
    jb3

    http://groups.google.com/group/az.general/browse_thread/thread/8efbe0e5a32de216/342f792fe8027559?hl=en&lnk=st&q=%22car+ran+the+light%22#342f792fe8027559

    ***

    http://atom.smasher.org/streetparty/?l1=Coming+Soon%3A&l2=the&l3=Banana+Revolution%21&l4=

    WHY THE BANANA REVOLUTION?
    http://webspawner.com/users/bananarevolution

  2. On Feb 19, 8:52�am, donquijote1954 <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I've vowed to fight terrorism... ROAD TERRORISM. It's not even that I
    go looking for trouble, trouble looks for me, and sometimes for those
    near me.

    Hey, Donkey Hotay. Fidel Castro finally resigned, now Raul is running
    the country.

    With any luck, you can pedal your bicycle back to Havana soon.

    Do ya think Raul will end communism in Cuba, or is he going to be the
    new Lion in the Jungle?

  3. . said:

    On Feb 19, 8:52�am, donquijote1954 <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I've vowed to fight terrorism... ROAD TERRORISM. It's not even that I
    go looking for trouble, trouble looks for me, and sometimes for those
    near me.

    Hey, Donkey Hotay. Fidel Castro finally resigned, now Raul is running
    the country.

    I'm waiting for Bush to resign too. His brother is better, I think.

    Quoted message said:


    With any luck, you can pedal your bicycle back to Havana soon.

    Cuba will never amount to anything good. Too far from Europe and too
    close to, you know... 😉

    Quoted message said:


    Do ya think Raul will end communism in Cuba, or is he going to be the
    new Lion in the Jungle?

    He's an old lion himself, but you see a lion for what he is. No
    camouflage like Castro who's more of a fox. Only hope is the Banana
    Revolution.

  4. I've been saying for years that criminal drivers are the real
    terrorists. Your chances of being killed or maimed by a speeder or
    DUI are a thousand times greater than by some mad bomber. Americans
    are such idiots for buying into this arab terrorism [censored].

  5. "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've been saying for years that criminal drivers are the real
    terrorists. Your chances of being killed or maimed by a speeder or
    DUI are a thousand times greater than by some mad bomber. Americans
    are such idiots for buying into this arab terrorism [censored].

    My family have been a victim of both. I had a cousin killed on 9/11, and his
    father was killed by a mindless driver who ran a red-light. I only have to
    know that the first one exists. The second, I have to worry about, and watch
    for on a daily basis. Especially when I'm traveling on 2 wheels.

  6. David White said:

    "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    messagenews:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've been saying for years that criminal drivers are the real
    terrorists. Your chances of being killed or maimed by a speeder or
    DUI are a thousand times greater than by some mad bomber. Americans
    are such idiots for buying into this arab terrorism [censored].

    My family have been a victim of both. I had a cousin killed on 9/11, and his
    father was killed by a mindless driver who ran a red-light. I only have to
    know that the first one exists. The second, I have to worry about, and watch
    for on a daily basis. Especially when I'm traveling on 2 wheels.

    There's no consolation for the victims of 4 wheeled-terrorists.
    Victims just make it to the horror show (the 6 o'clock news), at best.
    And not even the word "accident" does any justice to their plight...

    (letter to Lisa, author of 'It's No Accident: The Real Story Behind
    Senseless Death and Injury on Our Roads'😉

    Dear Lisa,

    David Townsend, Tia's father, gave me a copy of "It's No Accident"
    this spring, nearly a year after my son Dominick was hit in a Seattle
    crosswalk. Your book told our family's story and the stories of so
    many other families of pedestrian victims - from the devastating news,
    to the insurance companies, to meetings with the local county and city
    prosecutor's offices.

    Your book helped me understand that $490 fines and no drivers
    education or loss of license for the drivers in these deadly crashes
    are the norm. That deadly crosswalks like the one where Dominick was
    run over frequently are left by the cities with no lights, no traffic
    calming, no sign of the lives lost there. Before I read your book I
    thought it was perhaps just our family or just Seattle and King
    County.

    We are so blessed that Dominick lived and is recovering steadily -
    recovering from traumatic brain injury is a long long road. We are
    appalled to see all the families we know now who have lost a child or
    are trying so hard to restore their child after being hit by a car.

    Lisa, thank you for putting together the stories and the statistics
    into such a powerful book. I have bought copies to give to some of our
    community and state leaders. I hope that your speaking schedule brings
    you out to Washington. I think it would be so very important for our
    local and state leaders to hear from you.

    Desiree Douglass
    HEADSTRONG
    Seattle, WA

    http://www.lulu.com/content/186268

  7. On Feb 19, 12:06�pm, donquijote1954 <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    He's an old lion himself, but you see a lion for what he is. No
    camouflage like Castro who's more of a fox. Only hope is the Banana
    Revolution.

    So, why don't you take your Revolting Bananas back to Cuba where you'd
    be closer to the action?

    What's the point in complaining about traffic conditions *here* while
    your cousins are living under the communists?

  8. . said:

    On Feb 19, 12:06�pm, donquijote1954 <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    He's an old lion himself, but you see a lion for what he is. No
    camouflage like Castro who's more of a fox. Only hope is the Banana
    Revolution.

    So, why don't you take your Revolting Bananas back to Cuba where you'd
    be closer to the action?

    In Cuba they don't let you talk like here. No freedom of speech. Here
    the case is different... no democracy.

    "Freedom is when the people can speak, democracy is when the
    government listens" -Alastair Farrugia

    Quoted message said:


    What's the point in complaining about traffic conditions *here* while
    your cousins are living under the communists?

    I'm complaining about the sad state of affairs in the world. Why
    should I worry about the puppet, when we need to change the puppeteer?

  9. An anomynous post reads

    Quoted message said:

    Americans are such idiots for buying into this arab terrorism
    [censored].

    ...is this Rosie O' Donnell?...

    "just" regards - Mike Baldwin

  10. Doesn't this sign make sense?

    http://atom.smasher.org/highway/?l1=We+are+the+sheep+&l2=who+feed+the+beast%21&l3=&l4=

    Would you like a T-shirt too?

    http://www.zazzle.com/pub/done?pd=235627004264248658

  11. On Feb 19, 6:25 pm, donquijote1954 <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Doesn't this sign make sense?

    http://atom.smasher.org/highway/?l1=We+are+the+sheep+&l2=who+feed+the....

    Would you like a T-shirt too?

    http://www.zazzle.com/pub/done?pd=235627004264248658

    Maybe the T-shirt came out wrong...

    http://www.zazzle.com/the_beast_shirt-235627004264248658

  12. OK, breaking the news (no need to watch CNN) to you. What would you do
    if Nader took up the issue?

    (addressed to one of Nader's workers)

    Hey, Melanie, I've the issue that can make Ralph stand out before the
    other look alikes...

    Please read this:

    http://groups.google.com/group/alt.scooter/browse_thread/thread/b6a18bc51b878c32/2d0e78f8cb88ddba?hl=en#2d0e78f8cb88ddba

    This is very much Nader's tradition... TRAFFIC SAFETY, the issue of
    the century!

  13. David White said:

    "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've been saying for years that criminal drivers are the real
    terrorists. Your chances of being killed or maimed by a speeder or
    DUI are a thousand times greater than by some mad bomber. Americans
    are such idiots for buying into this arab terrorism [censored].

    My family have been a victim of both. I had a cousin killed on 9/11[01...]

    The convincing evidence for the responsible parties for that event has
    never been presented to the public.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

  14. Michael Baldwin said:

    An anomynous post reads

    Quoted message said:

    Americans are such idiots for buying into this arab terrorism
    [censored].

    ..is this Rosie O' Donnell?...


    There are non-Arab parties who have benefited greatly from the events of
    September 11, 2001. Who is to say that they did not orchestrate the event?

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    The weather is here, wish you were beautiful


  15. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    There are non-Arab parties who have benefited greatly from the events of
    September 11, 2001. Who is to say that they did not orchestrate the event?

    --
    Tom Sherman -

    Anybody but you, Tom. Sane people.

  16. Pat ? said:
    Quoted message said:

    There are non-Arab parties who have benefited greatly from the events of
    September 11, 2001. Who is to say that they did not orchestrate the event?

    --
    Tom Sherman -

    Anybody but you, Tom. Sane people.


    If you believe that government has told the complete truth (as they know
    it) about the events of September 11, 2001, then P.T. Barnum has a name
    for you.

    Alas, too much evidence has been destroyed for the truth to be
    confirmed, which was a deliberate decision made by the Cheney/Bush
    administration.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

  17. David White said:

    "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    messagenews:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've been saying for years that criminal drivers are the real
    terrorists. Your chances of being killed or maimed by a speeder or
    DUI are a thousand times greater than by some mad bomber. Americans
    are such idiots for buying into this arab terrorism [censored].

    My family have been a victim of both. I had a cousin killed on 9/11, and his
    father was killed by a mindless driver who ran a red-light. I only have to
    know that the first one exists. The second, I have to worry about, and watch
    for on a daily basis. Especially when I'm traveling on 2 wheels.

    That's my point. Most of us have never been endangered by a terrorist
    but we are endangered by by criminal drivers every day. And yet which
    is the idiot american most concerned with.?

  18. When anonymous posters write -

    Quoted message said:

    Americans are such idiots for buying into this arab terrorism
    [censored].

    - I think yep, we American idiots. We American idiots who have a
    Democratic Republic so vibrant, that we have a woman running for
    president, in a country that less than 90 years ago didn't even allow
    woman to vote.

    We American idiots who once as a nation divided, warred over the issue
    of race and equality, now stands ready to test those convictions and
    possibly elect an African-American to the highest office in the land.

    We American idiots. Where a POW, upon returning home from another
    senseless war, chooses to continue his service to his country as a U.S.
    Congressman and possibly President of the United States as well.

    We Americans idiots. Whose ideals are embraced by the worlds
    oppressed and scorned by those who fear it's truth.

    Best Regards - Mike Baldwin

  19. Michael Baldwin said:

    When anonymous posters write -

    Quoted message said:

    Americans are such idiots for buying into this arab terrorism [censored].

    - I think yep, we American idiots. We American idiots who have a
    Democratic Republic so vibrant, that we have a woman running for
    president, in a country that less than 90 years ago didn't even allow
    woman to vote.

    We American idiots who once as a nation divided, warred over the issue
    of race and equality, now stands ready to test those convictions and
    possibly elect an African-American to the highest office in the land.

    We American idiots. Where a POW, upon returning home from another
    senseless war, chooses to continue his service to his country as a U.S.
    Congressman and possibly President of the United States as well.

    We Americans idiots. Whose ideals are embraced by the worlds
    oppressed and scorned by those who fear it's truth.

    Best Regards - Mike Baldwin

    *If* any of them get in... you may have a point.
    Several other countries have already *had* female leaders.

  20. On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:34:55 GMT, "David White" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    |>> terrorists. Your chances of being killed or maimed by a speeder or
    |>> DUI are a thousand times greater than by some mad bomber. Americans
    |>> are such idiots for buying into this arab terrorism [censored].
    |>
    |>My family have been a victim of both. I had a cousin killed on 9/11, and his
    |>father was killed by a mindless driver who ran a red-light. I only have to
    |>know that the first one exists. The second, I have to worry about, and watch
    |>for on a daily basis. Especially when I'm traveling on 2 wheels.

    Which is why I think all people who can, should ride a M/Cycle to
    prove they can drive adequately....failing the test can mean a failure in a
    close casket.....not much to add to that...

    Although some need a 4 wheeler for cargo space, 90% of them don't,
    and gobble up the city's parking spaces horrendously. In my City, the meter
    maids and insurance companies dump on the M/C guys big time, in a vain
    attempt to cause as much damage as possible to the environment and keep the
    accident flow coming their way.....

    A trike is usually the limit for me, since it's easy to parallel
    park, and can carry a heftier cargo than a plain MC, but the prices start at
    $15,000, but a sidecar Scooter is a better investment, depending on the
    method of add-on/removal capacity.....

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