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  1. Can't remember if I've ever posted this recipe here before. A favorite
    but now defunct bakery in Cleveland used to produce these favorites. I
    finally managed to work out the recipe.

    This one is sure to push Yef right over the edge!

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Brown Sugar Brownies
    (Butterscotch Brownies)
    Recipe By :
    Serving Size : 16 Preparation Time :0:00
    Categories : Desserts Snacks

    Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
    -------- ------------ --------------------------------
    -----BROWNIES-----
    1/2 c Unsalted butter, melted
    2 c Dark-brown sugar, packed
    2 ea Large eggs
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 c All-purpose flour
    1/2 c Toasted Wheat Germ
    2 ts Baking powder
    1 t Vanilla extract
    1 c Broken walnut meats
    -----PENUCHE FROSTING-----
    1/3 c Unsalted butter
    3/4 c Dark-brown sugar, packed
    3 tb Light cream
    2 c Powdered sugar, sifted

    ~-- Brownies ---
    Preheat the oven to 350 degrees F (180 degrees C). Butter a 9-inch
    square cake pan. Mix all ingredients together, combining them well.
    Spread evenly in the pan and bake for 35-40 minutes or until dry on top
    and almost firm to the touch. Let cool completely in pan. Spread
    evenly with Penuche Frosting. Cut into 16 squares.

    ~-- Penuche Frosting ---
    Melt butter. Stir in brown sugar. Heat mixture to boiling, stirring
    constantly. Boil and stir over low heat for two minutes. Stir in milk
    or cream; heat to boiling. Remove from heat and cool to lukewarm.
    Gradually stir in powdered sugar. Beat until of spreading consistency.
    If necessary, add additional powdered sugar to thicken, or additional
    cream to thin.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    --
    Wayne Boatwright
    ____________________________________________

    Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
    Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

  2. My grandma used to make me devils food cake with penuche frosting. i
    loved it so much, she started to make it without a cake, and spread it
    in a pan like fudge. Yum!

  3. My grandma used to make me devils food cake with penuche frosting. i
    loved it so much, she started to make it without a cake, and spread it
    in a pan like fudge. Yum!

  4. You are one evil [censored], Wayne!

    Carol
    --
    "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
    'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
    Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

    *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

  5. On Wed 09 Mar 2005 08:52:54p, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    You are one evil [censored], Wayne!

    Carol

    You need these, admit it!

    --
    Wayne Boatwright
    ____________________________________________

    Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
    Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

  6. Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]>, if that's their real name,

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed 09 Mar 2005 08:52:54p, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    You are one evil [censored], Wayne!

    Carol

    You need these, admit it!

    Fortunately, I don't have brown sugar, powdered sugar, or wheat germ. But
    someday I will. <sigh>

    Carol
    --
    "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
    'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
    Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

    *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

  7. On Wed 09 Mar 2005 09:49:34p, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in
    rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]>, if that's their real name,

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed 09 Mar 2005 08:52:54p, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in
    rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    You are one evil [censored], Wayne!

    Carol

    You need these, admit it!

    Fortunately, I don't have brown sugar, powdered sugar, or wheat germ.
    But someday I will. <sigh>

    Carol

    Seriously, Carol, these are delicious. Years ago when I worked in downtown
    Cleveland, I'd walk to the bakery and buy one or two a couple of times a
    week. A lot of people were devastated when this local bakery chain closed
    its doors, and I worked on this recipe for several years before I got it
    right. Fond memories!

    --
    Wayne Boatwright
    ____________________________________________

    Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
    Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

  8. Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]>, if that's their real name,

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed 09 Mar 2005 09:49:34p, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in
    rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]>, if that's their real name,

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed 09 Mar 2005 08:52:54p, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in
    rec.food.cooking:

    > You are one evil [censored], Wayne!
    >
    > Carol

    You need these, admit it!

    Fortunately, I don't have brown sugar, powdered sugar, or wheat germ.
    But someday I will. <sigh>

    Carol

    Seriously, Carol, these are delicious. Years ago when I worked in downtown
    Cleveland, I'd walk to the bakery and buy one or two a couple of times a
    week. A lot of people were devastated when this local bakery chain closed
    its doors, and I worked on this recipe for several years before I got it
    right. Fond memories!

    You developed this recipe on your own? Holy cow! I can improvise when I
    cook, but my baking variations are generally using a different extract,
    using cocoa instead of chocolate, butter instead of whatever else. I
    admire the heck out of your ability to accomplish this!

    My mom called similar ones Blonde Brownies. I like them, but haven't had
    them since I was a little girl. The spice cake that my grandmother made
    for my dad's birthdays had penuche frosting, and I love that, too.

    You don't think the Brownie Gods would object if I used light brown sugar
    instead of dark, do you?

    Carol
    --
    "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
    'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
    Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

    *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

  9. On Wed 09 Mar 2005 10:12:38p, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in
    rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]>, if that's their real name,

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed 09 Mar 2005 09:49:34p, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in
    rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]>, if that's their real name,
    wrote:

    >On Wed 09 Mar 2005 08:52:54p, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in
    >rec.food.cooking:
    >
    >> You are one evil [censored], Wayne!
    >>
    >> Carol
    >
    >You need these, admit it!

    Fortunately, I don't have brown sugar, powdered sugar, or wheat germ.
    But someday I will. <sigh>

    Carol

    Seriously, Carol, these are delicious. Years ago when I worked in
    downtown Cleveland, I'd walk to the bakery and buy one or two a couple
    of times a week. A lot of people were devastated when this local bakery
    chain closed its doors, and I worked on this recipe for several years
    before I got it right. Fond memories!

    You developed this recipe on your own? Holy cow! I can improvise when
    I cook, but my baking variations are generally using a different
    extract, using cocoa instead of chocolate, butter instead of whatever
    else. I admire the heck out of your ability to accomplish this!

    Actually, yes, but it's a simple recipe. If you've baked a long time, the
    proportions pretty much fall into place.

    Quoted message said:

    My mom called similar ones Blonde Brownies. I like them, but haven't
    had them since I was a little girl. The spice cake that my grandmother
    made for my dad's birthdays had penuche frosting, and I love that, too.

    I haven't thought of a spice cake in a long time and I really like them.
    We used to put raisins in them.

    Quoted message said:

    You don't think the Brownie Gods would object if I used light brown
    sugar instead of dark, do you?

    Sure you can, but the texture and flavor may be a little bit different.
    Over the years I think that both light and dark brown sugar have become
    "lighter", with less molasses added. I almost never used to use dark brown
    sugar, but now I use it whenever brown sugar is called for.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright
    ____________________________________________

    Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
    Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

  10. Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]>, if that's their real name,

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed 09 Mar 2005 10:12:38p, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in
    rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]>, if that's their real name,
    wrote:

    You developed this recipe on your own? Holy cow! I can improvise when
    I cook, but my baking variations are generally using a different
    extract, using cocoa instead of chocolate, butter instead of whatever
    else. I admire the heck out of your ability to accomplish this!

    Actually, yes, but it's a simple recipe. If you've baked a long time, the
    proportions pretty much fall into place.

    I've been baking for nearly half a century. Creativity in that department
    doesn't come naturally for me, like cooking does. Funny, because my mom
    taught me to bake from the time I was very small, but I didn't learn to
    cook until after I was 20.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    My mom called similar ones Blonde Brownies. I like them, but haven't
    had them since I was a little girl. The spice cake that my grandmother
    made for my dad's birthdays had penuche frosting, and I love that, too.

    I haven't thought of a spice cake in a long time and I really like them.
    We used to put raisins in them.

    Have you tried dates? I'm posting Gramma's recipe at the end of this post,
    so keep reading!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You don't think the Brownie Gods would object if I used light brown
    sugar instead of dark, do you?

    Sure you can, but the texture and flavor may be a little bit different.
    Over the years I think that both light and dark brown sugar have become
    "lighter", with less molasses added. I almost never used to use dark brown
    sugar, but now I use it whenever brown sugar is called for.

    Boy, I didn't realize that I feared change as much as I do! I do love
    molasses, but have always preferred my brown sugar to be mild (is that even
    a valid sentence?). I'll try it with dark and see what the Crashman and I
    think of it.

    Here's the recipe. I haven't divided this into a specified number of
    servings, so the nutritional numbers at the bottom are for the entire cake.

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Spice Cake

    Recipe By 😄amsel's Heirloom Recipes
    Serving Size : 0 Preparation Time :0:00
    Categories : cakes

    Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
    -------- ------------ --------------------------------
    1/4 cup shortening
    1/4 cup butter
    1 1/2 cups brown sugar
    2 large eggs -- beaten
    1 cup milk
    2 cups flour
    1 teaspoon baking soda
    1 teaspoon cinnamon
    1/2 teaspoon nutmeg
    1/2 teaspoon cloves
    1/4 teaspoon salt
    1 cup dates -- chopped
    1/2 cup nuts -- chopped

    1. Cream shortening, butter, and sugar. Gradually add eggs.
    2. Sift flour, soda, salt, and spice and alternate with milk.
    3. Add dates and nuts.
    4. Bake in 9-inch layers at 350F for 30 minutes.
    5. Frost with Penuche Frosting.

    Source:
    "Eva Blanche Zastera"

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    Per serving: 3809 Calories (kcal); 158g Total Fat; (36% calories from fat);
    61g Protein; 563g Carbohydrate; 531mg Cholesterol; 2596mg Sodium
    Food Exchanges: 13 1/2 Grain(Starch); 3 Lean Meat; 0 Vegetable; 8 1/2
    Fruit; 29 Fat; 14 Other Carbohydrates

  11. On Thu 10 Mar 2005 05:45:09a, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in
    rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]>, if that's their real name,

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed 09 Mar 2005 10:12:38p, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in
    rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]>, if that's their real name,
    wrote:

    You developed this recipe on your own? Holy cow! I can improvise
    when I cook, but my baking variations are generally using a different
    extract, using cocoa instead of chocolate, butter instead of whatever
    else. I admire the heck out of your ability to accomplish this!

    Actually, yes, but it's a simple recipe. If you've baked a long time,
    the proportions pretty much fall into place.

    I've been baking for nearly half a century. Creativity in that
    department doesn't come naturally for me, like cooking does. Funny,
    because my mom taught me to bake from the time I was very small, but I
    didn't learn to cook until after I was 20.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    My mom called similar ones Blonde Brownies. I like them, but haven't
    had them since I was a little girl. The spice cake that my
    grandmother made for my dad's birthdays had penuche frosting, and I
    love that, too.

    I haven't thought of a spice cake in a long time and I really like them.
    We used to put raisins in them.

    Have you tried dates? I'm posting Gramma's recipe at the end of this
    post, so keep reading!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You don't think the Brownie Gods would object if I used light brown
    sugar instead of dark, do you?

    Sure you can, but the texture and flavor may be a little bit different.
    Over the years I think that both light and dark brown sugar have
    become "lighter", with less molasses added. I almost never used to use
    dark brown sugar, but now I use it whenever brown sugar is called for.

    Boy, I didn't realize that I feared change as much as I do! I do love
    molasses, but have always preferred my brown sugar to be mild (is that
    even a valid sentence?). I'll try it with dark and see what the
    Crashman and I think of it.

    Almost everybody fears change in one thing or another. <g> Glad you'll
    give it a shot. That's part of what makes it so "butterscotchy" <is that a
    word>?

    Quoted message said:

    Here's the recipe. I haven't divided this into a specified number of
    servings, so the nutritional numbers at the bottom are for the entire
    cake.

    Oh, thankee thankee! This looks wonderful! No, I've never tried dates,
    but I do love them, and will try them in the cake. I've used dates in
    cookies and date bars (of course). Since this is your mother's recipe,
    it's bound to be good. I've tried a couple of hers that you have posted on
    your website. She must have been a very good cook!

    See my note at the bottom about nutrition.

    Quoted message said:

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Spice Cake

    Recipe By 😄amsel's Heirloom Recipes
    Serving Size : 0 Preparation Time :0:00
    Categories : cakes

    Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
    -------- ------------ --------------------------------
    1/4 cup shortening
    1/4 cup butter
    1 1/2 cups brown sugar
    2 large eggs -- beaten
    1 cup milk
    2 cups flour
    1 teaspoon baking soda
    1 teaspoon cinnamon
    1/2 teaspoon nutmeg
    1/2 teaspoon cloves
    1/4 teaspoon salt
    1 cup dates -- chopped
    1/2 cup nuts -- chopped

    1. Cream shortening, butter, and sugar. Gradually add eggs.
    2. Sift flour, soda, salt, and spice and alternate with milk.
    3. Add dates and nuts.
    4. Bake in 9-inch layers at 350F for 30 minutes.
    5. Frost with Penuche Frosting.

    Source:
    "Eva Blanche Zastera"

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    -

    Per serving: 3809 Calories (kcal); 158g Total Fat; (36% calories from
    fat); 61g Protein; 563g Carbohydrate; 531mg Cholesterol; 2596mg Sodium
    Food Exchanges: 13 1/2 Grain(Starch); 3 Lean Meat; 0 Vegetable; 8 1/2
    Fruit; 29 Fat; 14 Other Carbohydrates

    It's probably good that you didn't portion this. I'm likely to eat all
    3809 calories at one sitting! <vbg>

    Have a great day! I'm off to work. :-(

    --
    Wayne Boatwright
    ____________________________________________

    Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
    Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

  12. Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]>, if that's their real name,

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu 10 Mar 2005 05:45:09a, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in
    rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I haven't thought of a spice cake in a long time and I really like them.
    We used to put raisins in them.

    Quoted message said:

    > You don't think the Brownie Gods would object if I used light brown
    > sugar instead of dark, do you?

    Sure you can, but the texture and flavor may be a little bit different.
    Over the years I think that both light and dark brown sugar have
    become "lighter", with less molasses added. I almost never used to use
    dark brown sugar, but now I use it whenever brown sugar is called for.

    Boy, I didn't realize that I feared change as much as I do! I do love
    molasses, but have always preferred my brown sugar to be mild (is that
    even a valid sentence?). I'll try it with dark and see what the
    Crashman and I think of it.

    Almost everybody fears change in one thing or another. <g> Glad you'll
    give it a shot. That's part of what makes it so "butterscotchy" <is that a
    word>?

    It is now! LOL!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Here's the recipe.

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Spice Cake

    Quoted message said:

    Oh, thankee thankee! This looks wonderful! No, I've never tried dates,
    but I do love them, and will try them in the cake. I've used dates in
    cookies and date bars (of course). Since this is your mother's recipe,
    it's bound to be good.

    It's my dad's mother's recipe. She made it for Dad for his birthdays.
    When I found out about that old tradition, I started baking them for him,
    too.

    Quoted message said:

    I've tried a couple of hers that you have posted on
    your website. She must have been a very good cook!

    Yeah, she was. I miss her. Which recipes have you tried?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I haven't divided this into a specified number of
    servings, so the nutritional numbers at the bottom are for the entire
    cake.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Per serving: 3809 Calories (kcal); 158g Total Fat; (36% calories from
    fat); 61g Protein; 563g Carbohydrate; 531mg Cholesterol; 2596mg Sodium
    Food Exchanges: 13 1/2 Grain(Starch); 3 Lean Meat; 0 Vegetable; 8 1/2
    Fruit; 29 Fat; 14 Other Carbohydrates

    It's probably good that you didn't portion this. I'm likely to eat all
    3809 calories at one sitting! <vbg>

    I'm that way, too, but I honestly can't do that with this cake. It's dense
    and very rich.

    Quoted message said:

    Have a great day! I'm off to work. :-(

    Hurry home, dear!
    Carol
    --
    "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
    'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
    Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

    *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

  13. Damsel in dis Dress said:


    Here's the recipe. I haven't divided this into a specified number of
    servings, so the nutritional numbers at the bottom are for the entire cake.

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Spice Cake

    Mmmm... this sounds good! I'm saving this one for future reference...
    I don't have any dates or nuts in the cupboard but we can always buy
    them 🙂

    ~Karen aka Kajikit
    Crafts, cats, and chocolate - the three essentials of life
    http://www.kajikitscorner.com
    *remove 'nospam' to reply

  14. On Thu 10 Mar 2005 06:30:32a, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in
    rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]>, if that's their real name,

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu 10 Mar 2005 05:45:09a, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in
    rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    >I haven't thought of a spice cake in a long time and I really like
    >them.
    > We used to put raisins in them.

    >> You don't think the Brownie Gods would object if I used light brown
    >> sugar instead of dark, do you?
    >
    >Sure you can, but the texture and flavor may be a little bit
    >different.
    > Over the years I think that both light and dark brown sugar have
    >become "lighter", with less molasses added. I almost never used to
    >use dark brown sugar, but now I use it whenever brown sugar is called
    >for.

    Boy, I didn't realize that I feared change as much as I do! I do love
    molasses, but have always preferred my brown sugar to be mild (is that
    even a valid sentence?). I'll try it with dark and see what the
    Crashman and I think of it.

    Almost everybody fears change in one thing or another. <g> Glad you'll
    give it a shot. That's part of what makes it so "butterscotchy" <is
    that a word>?

    It is now! LOL!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Here's the recipe.

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Spice Cake

    Quoted message said:

    Oh, thankee thankee! This looks wonderful! No, I've never tried dates,
    but I do love them, and will try them in the cake. I've used dates in
    cookies and date bars (of course). Since this is your mother's recipe,
    it's bound to be good.

    It's my dad's mother's recipe. She made it for Dad for his birthdays.
    When I found out about that old tradition, I started baking them for
    him, too.

    Quoted message said:

    I've tried a couple of hers that you have posted on your website. She
    must have been a very good cook!

    Yeah, she was. I miss her. Which recipes have you tried?

    IIRC, these three, Sour Cream Apple Pie, Cranberry Bread, and Drunken
    Chicken, and I think a recipe for meatballs, but I must not have saved that
    one.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I haven't divided this into a specified number of
    servings, so the nutritional numbers at the bottom are for the entire
    cake.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Per serving: 3809 Calories (kcal); 158g Total Fat; (36% calories from
    fat); 61g Protein; 563g Carbohydrate; 531mg Cholesterol; 2596mg Sodium
    Food Exchanges: 13 1/2 Grain(Starch); 3 Lean Meat; 0 Vegetable; 8 1/2
    Fruit; 29 Fat; 14 Other Carbohydrates

    It's probably good that you didn't portion this. I'm likely to eat all
    3809 calories at one sitting! <vbg>

    I'm that way, too, but I honestly can't do that with this cake. It's
    dense and very rich.

    Quoted message said:

    Have a great day! I'm off to work. :-(

    Hurry home, dear!
    Carol

    C Ya later!

  15. Wayne Boatwright said:

    On Thu 10 Mar 2005 06:30:32a, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in
    rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]>, if that's their real name,

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu 10 Mar 2005 05:45:09a, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in
    rec.food.cooking:

    >>I haven't thought of a spice cake in a long time and I really like
    >>them.
    > Here's the recipe.
    > Spice Cake

    Quoted message said:

    Oh, thankee thankee! This looks wonderful! No, I've never tried dates,
    but I do love them, and will try them in the cake. I've used dates in
    cookies and date bars (of course). Since this is your mother's recipe,
    it's bound to be good.

    Quoted message said:

    I've tried a couple of hers that you have posted on your website. She
    must have been a very good cook!

    Yeah, she was. I miss her. Which recipes have you tried?

    IIRC, these three, Sour Cream Apple Pie, Cranberry Bread, and Drunken
    Chicken, and I think a recipe for meatballs, but I must not have saved that
    one.

    Porcupine meatballs, or Norwegian meatballs? I'll be happy to post either
    or both of them.

    That Sour Cream Apple Pie is legendary, isn't it? The Sour Cream Rhubarb
    (with or without strawberries) is excellent, too.

    Carol
    --
    "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
    'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
    Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

    *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

  16. On Thu 10 Mar 2005 10:43:03a, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in
    rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:
    Wayne Boatwright said:

    On Thu 10 Mar 2005 06:30:32a, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in
    rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]>, if that's their real name,
    wrote:

    >On Thu 10 Mar 2005 05:45:09a, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in
    >rec.food.cooking:
    >
    >>>I haven't thought of a spice cake in a long time and I really like
    >>>them.
    >> Here's the recipe.
    >> Spice Cake

    >Oh, thankee thankee! This looks wonderful! No, I've never tried
    >dates, but I do love them, and will try them in the cake. I've used
    >dates in cookies and date bars (of course). Since this is your
    >mother's recipe, it's bound to be good.

    >I've tried a couple of hers that you have posted on your website.
    >She must have been a very good cook!

    Yeah, she was. I miss her. Which recipes have you tried?

    IIRC, these three, Sour Cream Apple Pie, Cranberry Bread, and Drunken
    Chicken, and I think a recipe for meatballs, but I must not have saved
    that one.

    Porcupine meatballs, or Norwegian meatballs? I'll be happy to post
    either or both of them.

    Oh, that would be the Norwegian Meatballs. And yes, I wold love to have it
    again. thanks!

    Quoted message said:

    That Sour Cream Apple Pie is legendary, isn't it? The Sour Cream
    Rhubarb (with or without strawberries) is excellent, too.

    Same recipe for the Rhubarb as for the Apple? I'll have to give that a try
    now that fresh young rhubarb will soon be in the stores.

    Thanks, Carol!

    Wayne

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