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Really Good Tip for Learning the Kickup Mount

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  1. In the past I had only tried the kickup mount sparingly, partly because
    it can be a little intimidating thinking about the possible injuries
    and maybe even damage to the uni. Then I saw a Japanese unicyclist
    video:

    http://www.ichirin.ne.jp/video/single/sinf02.wmv

    The video isn't all that extroadinary, but notice how she has a false
    start to her kickup mount at the beginning of the routine . She lifts
    up the seat halfway, then puts it back down -- all in a very controlled
    manner. This gave me the idea that you don't really have to "kick up"
    with the kicking foot at all; rather, you simply lift up and guide the
    seat with your kicking foot, while letting your weight on the pedal do
    most of the work in lifting up the unicycle. Perhaps some people
    really do have a more violent kicking motion, but I find that
    pulling/guiding up the saddle results in a much more controlled seat
    motion, and is great for learning the mount. No more worries about the
    saddle flying out of control. I'm guessing that there are probably
    people who can do this mount almost in slow motion, with the saddle
    rising quite slowly.

    I practiced doing what she did, lifting the saddle up halfway then down
    in a slow controlled motion. Up and down repeatedly. This also helped
    me coordinate my weight shift with the leg lifting action. And when I
    did try the mount, I found that I was acquiring the seat much more
    frequently than before. My attempts were successful only about 20
    percent of the time though, because even if I got the seat in the right
    place, often my weight was off, causing me to fall. However I felt
    like I was definitely making progress.

    That was last weekend, but unfortunately I had no time to practice
    until today. This time I focused on where my weight should be after
    stepping onto the pedal and also making sure I lift the saddle up to
    the correct position, not too far forward or back. Before too long, I
    was making about half of my tries. Then at the end I tested myself on
    20 attempts and made 14. Needless to say, I got quite excited!

    So my advice is to practice "lifting" rather than "kicking up" the
    seat. Also, there's no need to jump, simply shift your weight to the
    pedal. Perhaps a little more force than a slow lazy weight shift is
    necessary to get the saddle up quickly, but I don't think jumping is
    required. Read somewhere that a normal walking motion is about the
    right amount of momentum required -- found this to be good advice too.
    Hope this helps anyone learning the mount. Would be interested in
    hearing whether people find this as helpful as I did.

    Tony

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  2. crslinyc said:

    The video isn't all that extroadinary

    I don't know about that, I thought it was a fantastic freestyle
    performance. Her transition out of crank idling, as well as the
    backwards seat in front riding into a standup wheel walk was really
    cool. I found it an inspiring video 🙂

    Balancing on the tire with the seat extended like that is definitely
    something I'll attempt..

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  3. Another good thing to keep in mind is to lean back a bit. When I do a
    kickup, I find that if I lean just past what is comfortable, the
    rolling back motion of the tire brings it under me when I'm finally up
    there. Good for making sure you're in control and don't have to flail
    all over the place ungracefully to keep your balance.

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  4. 1) Jump in the direction of the green arrow in 'this clip'
    (http://unicyclist.org/cont/play.cfm?pi=w320240kickup).
    Otherwise you will hardly will be able to correct your sideways jump.

    2) try to jump "too far" sideways.

    3) Think (or shout) "UP!"

    4) in case you hesitate all the time; count 3-2-1-up!

    I learned it by doing 100 atempts in row each practise. And counted the
    succesfull ones.

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  5. That method of practice is actually something I should apply more often.
    The kickup mount is totally worth it, it's one of the things you can do
    on a uni that's not too hard and still impresses people a lot.

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  6. Oh, and one thing I did to:
    buy the a soft mouse-pad; cut it in 4 (round the corners); stick them
    in your
    socks.

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  7. Thanks, Tony, good tip.
    Something I found helpful was first getting very comfortable with side
    mount, and particularly the 'extreme' side mount, where the unicycle
    starts lying on the ground, and you pick it up with your hand as you
    side mount it. So it's sort of like the kick-up except using your hand
    instead of your foot. This helps especially in getting the last part
    of the kickup mount, after the seat has come up and you need to put
    your weight on the seat, get your other foot on the pedal, find your
    balance and ride away.

    oh yes, that was an awesome video (perhaps not so "extraordinary" only
    by the stratospheric standards of Japanese championship freestyle).
    Hey, she did more than half of her routine without a mistake, with
    near-perfect timing for every move in sync with the music ... I can't
    even imagine how much practice went into that routine alone (aside from
    mastering all the skills that went into it)...

    must go practice more....

    julian

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  8. Hey Tony is there any more of those japan competition videos? I enjoyed
    that one.. if you have a link to the site that would be great..

    Thanks

    -Tony (my name also)

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  9. I feel inspired to try this mount after reading this thread. I only
    recently learned to do a side mount and I found that doing it really
    slowly and focusing on balance and control was the secret. I think
    I'll try the extreme side mount that was mentioned here first and then
    try the kick up. You guys make it seem not that hard.

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  10. Victory said:

    Hey Tony is there any more of those japan competition videos? I enjoyed
    that one.. if you have a link to the site that would be great..

    Thanks

    -Tony (my name also)

    Sometimes carving off some of the end of the link will do the trick.
    This is one of those occasions! http://www.ichirin.ne.jp/
    It's mostly in japanese, just mash buttons methodically and you'll find
    the videos.
    It's this kind of unicycling skill that impresses this beginner, more
    than the jumping up of things and falling down from things. Humbling
    and encouraging!

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  11. underdog said:

    I feel inspired to try this mount after reading this thread. You guys
    make it seem not that hard.

    It isn't.
    The bit of advice on getting some padding for your ankles is a good
    one. I find that I often skin my pedalfoot-ankle on the crank.

    I'm still very much a kick-and-hope practitioner of this mount. Despite
    that, I still manage to land at least 70% of my attempts and I use it
    in uni-gigs quite often.
    The first post in this thread strikes me as wonderfull advice in the
    'why-didn't-I-think-of-that?!?' mold.
    Can't wait to get to the uni...

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