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  1. This is why I come to rbr, so I can be enlightened, to learn something I
    don't know. Unfortunately I come in here (rbr), and I find out I'm the
    expert doing the educating, but after today's ITT results, I'm truly
    baffled.

    question 1: who should Discovery say is their No. 1 man, is it Contador, or
    Levi? Who should it be, and will it be?

    question 2: how did Cadel Evans get so good all of sudden? Wasn't he a
    mountain biker in a previous life? And if it comes down to Evans and
    Contador, should I pull for the english speaking Evans, or the American team
    of Discovery, and why?

    question 3: if the descent is so slick, that Millar almost stopped, why
    don't they put wider tires on. Isn't it better to lose 20 seconds, than a
    few minutes or a trip to the hospital if you crash? I'm talking about the
    pack-fill, not the top 10 who have a chance to win.

  2. Callistus Valerius said:

    This is why I come to rbr, so I can be enlightened, to learn something I
    don't know. Unfortunately I come in here (rbr), and I find out I'm the
    expert doing the educating, but after today's ITT results, I'm truly
    baffled.

    question 1: who should Discovery say is their No. 1 man, is it Contador, or
    Levi? Who should it be, and will it be?

    question 2: how did Cadel Evans get so good all of sudden?

    Hmmm... Maglia Rosa in the mountains of the Giro in 2002(for only a day
    before imploding, but still). Ended up 14th overall.
    It ain't "all of a sudden."

    Wasn't he a

    Quoted message said:

    mountain biker in a previous life? And if it comes down to Evans and
    Contador, should I pull for the english speaking Evans, or the American team
    of Discovery, and why?

    Geez, cheer for anybody you like.

    Quoted message said:


    question 3: if the descent is so slick, that Millar almost stopped, why
    don't they put wider tires on. Isn't it better to lose 20 seconds, than a
    few minutes or a trip to the hospital if you crash? I'm talking about the
    pack-fill, not the top 10 who have a chance to win.

    a) They probably haven't got any particularly wide tires on hand, and
    more importantly, b) They can't predict the weather much better than you
    or I.

    Mark J.

  3. in message <[email hidden]>,

    Callistus Valerius (') said:

    This is why I come to rbr, so I can be enlightened, to learn something I
    don't know. Unfortunately I come in here (rbr), and I find out I'm the
    expert doing the educating, but after today's ITT results, I'm truly
    baffled.

    question 1: who should Discovery say is their No. 1 man, is it Contador,
    or Levi? Who should it be, and will it be?

    Contador. He's got talent, and a future.

    Quoted message said:

    question 2: how did Cadel Evans get so good all of sudden? Wasn't he a
    mountain biker in a previous life?

    So was Rasmussen. So was Landis. So what?

    Quoted message said:

    And if it comes down to Evans and
    Contador, should I pull for the english speaking Evans, or the American
    team of Discovery, and why?

    Why should the (first) language they speak, and the nation they're from,
    affect your judgement of a cyclist? Rasmussen, Gerdemann, and even Vino
    all speak better English than most Americans (and, indeed, more coherent
    English than Mark Cavendish).

    Quoted message said:

    question 3: if the descent is so slick, that Millar almost stopped, why
    don't they put wider tires on. Isn't it better to lose 20 seconds, than
    a
    few minutes or a trip to the hospital if you crash? I'm talking about
    the pack-fill, not the top 10 who have a chance to win.

    Millar said in an interview after his run that he had advised Iban Mayo to
    put road tyres on - presumably meaning 23mm@120psi rather than 20mm@180.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; this is not a .sig

  4. On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:03:38 GMT, "Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    This is why I come to rbr, so I can be enlightened, to learn something I
    don't know. Unfortunately I come in here (rbr), and I find out I'm the
    expert doing the educating, but after today's ITT results, I'm truly
    baffled.

    question 1: who should Discovery say is their No. 1 man, is it Contador, or
    Levi? Who should it be, and will it be?

    Doesn't much matter what they say, It'll be whoever can get the best result

    Quoted message said:

    question 2: how did Cadel Evans get so good all of sudden? Wasn't he a
    mountain biker in a previous life?

    So is the yellow jersey wearer this year and last year's winner.

    Quoted message said:

    And if it comes down to Evans and
    Contador, should I pull for the english speaking Evans, or the American team
    of Discovery, and why?

    Take your pick, Contador is young and brilliant and will be amazing.

    Quoted message said:

    question 3: if the descent is so slick, that Millar almost stopped, why
    don't they put wider tires on. Isn't it better to lose 20 seconds, than a
    few minutes or a trip to the hospital if you crash? I'm talking about the
    pack-fill, not the top 10 who have a chance to win.

    Don't think the tires would make a damn bit of difference.

    Ron

  5. RonSonic said:
    Quoted message said:

    question 2: how did Cadel Evans get so good all of sudden? Wasn't he a
    mountain biker in a previous life?

    So is the yellow jersey wearer this year

    True, and what is really sudden is the yellow jersey wearer's ability
    to TT. Just when he gets booted off the Danish team for missing
    out-of-competition dope tests.

    Hmmm... Why does that remind me of Roberto Heras in the 2005 Vuelta?

    Quoted message said:

    and last year's winner.

    Did I miss something? When did that get confirmed?

  6. Doug Taylor said:

    On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:43:33 -0400, RonSonic
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    question 2: how did Cadel Evans get so good all of sudden? Wasn't he a
    mountain biker in a previous life?

    So is the yellow jersey wearer this year

    Quoted message said:

    True, and what is really sudden is the yellow jersey wearer's ability
    to TT. Just when he gets booted off the Danish team for missing
    out-of-competition dope tests.

    Actually he didn't miss any tests, he sendt his where-abouts
    declaration too late acording to the rules but the UCI/ADD still
    recived them ahead of scedule. MR has been tested out of competition
    this year.

    --
    Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk>

    Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.

  7. in message <[email hidden]>, Morten Reippuert Knudsen

    (') said:

    Actually he didn't miss any tests, he sendt his where-abouts
    declaration too late acording to the rules but the UCI/ADD still
    recived them ahead of scedule. MR has been tested out of competition
    this year.

    How is this going down in Denmark? Does the cycling fan in the street see
    Rasmussen as a new national hero, or a tainted crook? Are the Danish
    cycling authorities reflecting public opinion in dropping him from the
    team?

    Rasmussen's never struck me as a particularly likable guy, and he may well
    have ruffled a few feathers... but dropping him from the team for missed
    paperwork looks like a huge over-reaction.

    Isn't it?

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    The Conservative Party now has the support of a smaller proportion of
    the electorate in Scotland than Sinn Fein have in Northern Ireland.

  8. Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Morten Reippuert Knudsen

    (') said:

    Actually he didn't miss any tests, he sendt his where-abouts
    declaration too late acording to the rules but the UCI/ADD still
    recived them ahead of scedule. MR has been tested out of competition
    this year.

    How is this going down in Denmark? Does the cycling fan in the street see
    Rasmussen as a new national hero, or a tainted crook? Are the Danish
    cycling authorities reflecting public opinion in dropping him from the
    team?

    Rasmussen's never struck me as a particularly likable guy, and he may well
    have ruffled a few feathers... but dropping him from the team for missed
    paperwork looks like a huge over-reaction.

    Dumbass -

    Either that or there may be some rumours floating around to which the
    rest of the world isn't privy.

    thanks,

    K. Gringioni.

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