Re: x-rays - No joking please

Brian said:

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If you don't want the X-Rays, then the dentist will ask you to sign a
waiver, because X-Rays are an extremely valuable tool for a dentist to
discover small problems before they get big.

A patient cannot consent to treatment which is below the standard of
care.

Absolutely true.

Steve

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A patient cannot consent to treatment which is below the standard of
care.

Absolutely true.

Nah - sure they can. But the dentist will be committing malpractice.

carabelli

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"Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS" <[email hidden]> wrote ........

Quoted message said:

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A patient cannot consent to treatment which is below the standard of
care.

Absolutely true.

Nah - sure they can. But the dentist will be committing malpractice.

carabelli

Whenever a patient tries to get me to do something I know is wrong, I always
hear a little voice in my head...it is the voice of the attorney trying to nail
my butt for malpractice...he asks..."so where did your patient get their dental
degree???"

I have many patients express concern over x-rays, but upon further explanation,
and in the absence of extra-ordinary circumstances, most consent to appropriate
and necessary films.

T

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On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:41:17 -0500, Brian <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If you don't want the X-Rays, then the dentist will ask you to sign a
waiver, because X-Rays are an extremely valuable tool for a dentist to
discover small problems before they get big.

A patient cannot consent to treatment which is below the standard of
care.

Are X-Rays required as standard care?

The proper diagnostic aids to properly diagnose the condition are what is
considered standard of care.

I always try to work with people who have concerns such as yours, and we can
usually work to reduce the films to an absolute minimum. I can rely on my
clinical experience, education, and judgement to learn a lot about my patient,
but without x-rays, somethings cannot be determined with certainty.

As was pointed out earlier, a panoramic film involves less radiation exposure
than a traditional full series of x-rays, and in some ways, can tell us much
more.

T

100% correct!

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:41:17 -0500, Brian <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If you don't want the X-Rays, then the dentist will ask you to sign a
waiver, because X-Rays are an extremely valuable tool for a dentist to
discover small problems before they get big.

A patient cannot consent to treatment which is below the standard of
care.

--
Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA

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WB said:

Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS said:

Quoted message said:

>>If you don't want the X-Rays, then the dentist will ask you to sign a
>>waiver, because X-Rays are an extremely valuable tool for a dentist to
>>discover small problems before they get big.
>
>A patient cannot consent to treatment which is below the standard of
>care.

Are X-Rays required as standard care?

X-rays appropriate to the situation are the standard of care. For
example, an extraction of any kind requires an x-ray. The patient cannot
sign a release absolving a dentist of responsibility for problems that could
have been forseen by x-ray. Any release signed by the patient in this
situation will not hold up in court.

Steve

Before this discussion progresses further some terms must be
defined.

Roentgen named the rays from the cathode tube as *X-Rays*
due to their previously unknown presence and properties.

What we as dentists review are the *Radiographs* which
are made by exposing some type of sensor to *X-Rays*.

</soap box mode>

WB

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Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA

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is provided for information purposes
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represent endorsement by or an official
position of the SciMedDentistry gang
or any other official agency either
actual or fictitious or Steve Mancuso.

Advice on the treatment or care
of an individual patient should
be obtained through consultation
with a dentist who has examined
that patient or is familiar with
that patient's dental history.

STANDARD DISCLAIMER

Tony Bad said:

As was pointed out earlier, a panoramic film involves less radiation
exposure than a traditional full series of x-rays, and in some ways, can
tell us much more.

Yes, esp. regarding the front teeth..

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madiba

madiba said:

Tony Bad said:

As was pointed out earlier, a panoramic film involves less radiation
exposure than a traditional full series of x-rays, and in some ways, can
tell us much more.

Yes, esp. regarding the front teeth..

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madiba

Actually, panoramic radiographs can tell you very little about anything
near the midline. Some panoramic machines attempt to minimize this effect.
In fact, I hope someone can explain why this is so--that there is so much
distortion in the midline. I think I knew it at one time--something about
interference from the vertebral column may have had something to do with it in
the early machines at least.
Most surgeons have panoramic machines--they are needed for fractures,
cysts, tumors, and the superior coverage of the film make them mandatory. For
caries and periodontal diagnosis they have very little use.

Steve

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Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
http://www.dentaltwins.com