Re: Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.

[Mike Vandeman]

On Sat, 31 May 2008 20:21:31 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Bashford)
wrote:

>
>
> On 29 May 2008 22:53:41 -0700, Mike Vandeman said about:
> Re: Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.
>> On Fri, 30 May 2008 (Doug Bashford) wrote:
>> > On Thu, 29 May 2008, Mike Vandeman said
>> >> On Tue, 27 May 2008 (Doug Bashford) wrote:
>
>
>> >> >It is important to recognize anger as a natural,
>> >> >human response to death.
>> >> >
>> >> > Many years ago Mike Vandeman's brother was killed
>> >> >in San Fransisco in a bike accedent.
>> >
>> >..........big snip
>> >
>> >> Too bad it's 100% lies.
>> >
>> >Do you deny your brother was killed in a
>> >bike accedent, Mike?
>>
>> Yes. That is just one of your many LIES. That's how we
>> know you are a mountain biker.
>
>Since we've both been posting on sci.environment
>since the early '90s, thousands of posts each,
>and you don't recognize me, that pretty much proves
>you are not an environmentalist, doesn't it?
>You simply don't read sci.environment. You
>simply use it a cover for your anti-bike screes.
>
> "Mike Vandeman, environmentalist! "
>...obviously part of your delusional self image.
>And above is part of the proof. You know
>NOTHING about what's going on in sci.environment.
>And your posts prove that, too.
>
>I'd not have much problem with that, except you
>project environmentalism as a warped vindictive
>movement. To the quick traveler, you confirm in
>alt.mountain-bike, rec.bicycles.soc, rec.backcountry,
>ca.environment, and sci.environment everything
>Rush Limbaugh ever said about environmentalists,
>including "long haired maggot infested environmental
>whacko," and so much more.
>
>>
>> >How was your brother killed?
>> >What did he die of?
>
>You "forgot" to answer Mike.
>And I don't believe in coincidence.

No, I didn't. Just look above: " Too bad it's 100% lies". It's 100%
FABRICATION. Where's your EVIDENCE I know, it's unfair to ask a
mountain biker for evidence, because they don't HAVE any!
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

 

[Ed Pirrero]

On May 31, 3:55 pm, Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 31 May 2008 12:01:51 -0700 (PDT), Ed Pirrero
>
> >I've been reading his drivel for years. It's entertaining in a sick
> >way.
>
> >What cracks me up is that during the time he's been endlessly
> >transferring electrons, access to wild areas has increased for
> >MTBers. Including areas of national parks.
>
> Fire roads only. Not real mountain biking.

I have no clue as to why you think that response invalidates my point.

E.P.

 

[Siskuwihane]

On May 31, 9:17 pm, Ed Pirrero <[email protected]> wrote:
> On May 31, 3:55 pm, Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 31 May 2008 12:01:51 -0700 (PDT), Ed Pirrero
>
> > >I've been reading his drivel for years.  It's entertaining in a sick
> > >way.
>
> > >What cracks me up is that during the time he's been endlessly
> > >transferring electrons, access to wild areas has increased for
> > >MTBers.  Including areas of national parks.
>
> > Fire roads only. Not real mountain biking.
>
> I have no clue as to why you think that response invalidates my point.
>
> E.P.

Maybe he's fighting with Helen...again.

 

[DI]

"Siskuwihane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On May 31, 9:52 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Doug, Enoch, Di, Ed and anyone else reading this...
> As you have all experienced so far. The repeated denials of his
> misinformation, emails that were sent priorly, prior posts, etc that
> Mike continues to exhibit continue to show the avoidance of his
> illness. He can't stop lying and he believes himself after a certain
> point. It is quite sad.

Poor, sick *******.

No wonder his wife made him get a vasectomy, she was probably repulsed
at the idea of a Mike Jr.
running around. She probably thought one nut in the house was enough.

He doesn't need a vasectomy, his personality is good enough for birth
control

 

[Mike Vandeman]

On Sat, 31 May 2008 18:17:12 -0700 (PDT), Ed Pirrero
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On May 31, 3:55 pm, Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sat, 31 May 2008 12:01:51 -0700 (PDT), Ed Pirrero
>>
>> >I've been reading his drivel for years. It's entertaining in a sick
>> >way.
>>
>> >What cracks me up is that during the time he's been endlessly
>> >transferring electrons, access to wild areas has increased for
>> >MTBers. Including areas of national parks.
>>
>> Fire roads only. Not real mountain biking.
>
>I have no clue as to why you think that response invalidates my point.

I have no idea why you think you made a point.

>E.P.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

 

[Doug Bashford]

On Sat, 31 May 2008, Mike Vandeman said about:
Re: Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.


> On Sat, 31 May 2008 (Doug Bashford) wrote:
> > On 29 May 2008 22:53:41 -0700, Mike Vandeman said about:
> > Re: Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.
> >> On Fri, 30 May 2008 (Doug Bashford) wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 29 May 2008, Mike Vandeman said
> >> >> On Tue, 27 May 2008 (Doug Bashford) wrote:

............snip

> >I'd not have much problem with that, except you
> >project environmentalism as a warped vindictive
> >movement. To the quick traveler, you confirm in
> >alt.mountain-bike, rec.bicycles.soc, rec.backcountry,
> >ca.environment, and sci.environment everything
> >Rush Limbaugh ever said about environmentalists,
> >including "long haired maggot infested environmental
> >whacko," and so much more.
> >
> >>
> >> >How was your brother killed?
> >> >What did he die of?
> >
> >You "forgot" to answer Mike.
> >And I don't believe in coincidence.
>
> No, I didn't. Just look above: " Too bad it's 100% lies". It's 100%
> FABRICATION. Where's your EVIDENCE I know, it's unfair to ask a
> mountain biker for evidence, because they don't HAVE any!
> --

OK Mike, you don't want to talk about
the tragedies in your family. I guess
I'll let it slide, mostly out of respect
for the deceased and for the man you
once were. We once had very similar values,
and perhaps still do. Your problem is,
your tactics have gone to hell.

Did you know?
If we don't change our direction,
we'll end up where we're headed.

What does Vandeman value? Who is he?
Google:
Results about 18,300 from Jan 1, 1981 to Aug 31, 2008 for
author:Vandeman
....and without bikes:
Results 2,670 from Jan 1, 1981 to Aug 31, 2008 for -bike OR
-biker OR -bikes author:Vandeman
...or one in 6.85 not about bikes.


Results 2,720 from Jan 1, 2006 to Aug 31, 2008 for
author:Vandeman
....and without bikes:
Results 61 from Jan 1, 2006 to Aug 31, 2008 for -bike OR
-biker OR -bikes author:Vandeman
...or one in 44.59.


If we don't change our direction,...






--

PURE Republicanism?? It's now clear.
Six years of PURE Republicanism - BOTH houses
AND the Prez. Pure as it gets.
So?
Are you better off now than seven years ago?
Are you proud with what they have done to
America and her reputation? ...To your reputation?
....all the sleaze, lies and bribery?
How about all the killing?
....Americans torture now? Proud?

If actions speak louder than rhetoric, then
name ONE good thing about Republicanism.
Just one.

Just one *real* thing.

Can't do it?
You have only feelsgood rhetoric?

So? Your Republicanism more like a bad habit then?

 

[Ed Pirrero]

On May 31, 9:35 pm, Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 31 May 2008 18:17:12 -0700 (PDT), Ed Pirrero
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On May 31, 3:55 pm, Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 31 May 2008 12:01:51 -0700 (PDT), Ed Pirrero
>
> >> >I've been reading his drivel for years. It's entertaining in a sick
> >> >way.
>
> >> >What cracks me up is that during the time he's been endlessly
> >> >transferring electrons, access to wild areas has increased for
> >> >MTBers. Including areas of national parks.
>
> >> Fire roads only. Not real mountain biking.
>
> >I have no clue as to why you think that response invalidates my point.
>
> I have no idea why you think you made a point.

Yes, that is quite obvious. At least with the first four words of
your reply you were telling the truth. For once.

E.P.

 

[Mike Vandeman]

On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:48:16 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Bashford)
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, 31 May 2008, Mike Vandeman said about:
> Re: Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.
>
>
>> On Sat, 31 May 2008 (Doug Bashford) wrote:
>> > On 29 May 2008 22:53:41 -0700, Mike Vandeman said about:
>> > Re: Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.
>> >> On Fri, 30 May 2008 (Doug Bashford) wrote:
>> >> > On Thu, 29 May 2008, Mike Vandeman said
>> >> >> On Tue, 27 May 2008 (Doug Bashford) wrote:
>
>...........snip
>
>> >I'd not have much problem with that, except you
>> >project environmentalism as a warped vindictive
>> >movement. To the quick traveler, you confirm in
>> >alt.mountain-bike, rec.bicycles.soc, rec.backcountry,
>> >ca.environment, and sci.environment everything
>> >Rush Limbaugh ever said about environmentalists,
>> >including "long haired maggot infested environmental
>> >whacko," and so much more.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> >How was your brother killed?
>> >> >What did he die of?
>> >
>> >You "forgot" to answer Mike.
>> >And I don't believe in coincidence.
>>
>> No, I didn't. Just look above: " Too bad it's 100% lies". It's 100%
>> FABRICATION. Where's your EVIDENCE I know, it's unfair to ask a
>> mountain biker for evidence, because they don't HAVE any!
>> --
>
>OK Mike, you don't want to talk about
>the tragedies in your family. I guess
>I'll let it slide, mostly out of respect
>for the deceased and for the man you
>once were.

This is pure BS. You obiously don't know what you are talking about,
and FABRICATED that entire story. And you aren't man enough to admit
it. Mountain bikers never are! Once a LIAR, ALWAYS a LIAR. I guess you
don't value your reputation.

We once had very similar values,
>and perhaps still do. Your problem is,
>your tactics have gone to hell.
>
>Did you know?
>If we don't change our direction,
>we'll end up where we're headed.
>
>What does Vandeman value? Who is he?
>Google:
>Results about 18,300 from Jan 1, 1981 to Aug 31, 2008 for
>author:Vandeman
>...and without bikes:
> Results 2,670 from Jan 1, 1981 to Aug 31, 2008 for -bike OR
>-biker OR -bikes author:Vandeman
> ...or one in 6.85 not about bikes.
>
>
> Results 2,720 from Jan 1, 2006 to Aug 31, 2008 for
>author:Vandeman
>...and without bikes:
> Results 61 from Jan 1, 2006 to Aug 31, 2008 for -bike OR
>-biker OR -bikes author:Vandeman
> ...or one in 44.59.
>
>
>If we don't change our direction,...
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

 

[[email protected]]

Mike=Sociopath/personality disorder. The lines blur between truth and
untruth for Mike.

Interesting...everyone that posts on these usenet are liars in
comparison with St Mike who has never told a lie.


Mike's motto should read...
>> am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
lies ("pure lies according to Mike"). Want to help? (I spent the
previous 8
years lying .) I cannot tell a lie, I chopped down the cherry tree and
lied on the usenets.

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you
are fond of! I did and lost my mind.

 

[Doug Bashford]

[email protected] said about:
Re: Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.


> Mike=Sociopath/personality disorder. The lines blur between truth and
> untruth for Mike.
>
> Interesting...everyone that posts on these usenet are liars in
> comparison with St Mike who has never told a lie.

What a legacy he leaves, huh?
His tombstone will read: Here lies a good man who at every
turn lost track of the Big Picture, and died shaking
his fist at bicyclists.



http://www.google.com/search?num=30&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&q=grieving+process+anger&btnG=Search

The Stages Of Grief
A Normal Life Process; Five Stages Of Grief. 1. Denial and
Isolation. ... Anger. The grieving person may then be furious at
the person who inflicted the ...
www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-THE-3.html - 17k
- -------

Anger and the Grieving Process
Anger is but one of many emotional reactions to the painful
reality of death. It is important to recognize anger as a
natural, human response. ...
www.tcfcanada.net/articles/coping/anger.htm - 11k - -------

Grieving
Your primary task in dealing with anger, of course, is to
acknowledge and accept ... This is the most painful stage of the
grieving process, because it's ...
www.divorceinfo.com/grieving.htm - 35k - -------

Coping With Death, Grief, and Loss Handout
Time and support facilitate the grieving process, allowing an ...
Anger may result from feeling abandoned, occurring in cases of
loss through death. ...
www.uiowa.edu/~ucs/griefloss.html - 35k - -------

Grieving and Healing - 5 Steps to Help You Through the Grieving
...
In my practice as a therapist, I have counseled many people who
lost a loved one and worked through the grieving process.
Combining my own experience with ...
seniorliving.about.com/od/lifetransitionsaging/a/grieving.htm -
23k - -------

Grief - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
While many who grieve are able to work through their loss
independently, accessing additional support from bereavement
professionals may promote the process ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grief - 66k - -------

The Grieving Process
The grieving process gives us time to reflect and find new
strength that ... Understanding more about grief and the grieving
process can help you heal, ...
www.hns.org/CenterforGriefHealing/TheGrievingProcess/tabid/90/Default.aspx
- 19k - -------

PURE Republicanism?? It's now clear.
Six years of PURE Republicanism - BOTH houses
AND the Prez. Pure as it gets.
So?
Are you better off now than seven years ago?
Are you proud with what they have done to
America and her reputation? ...To your reputation?
....all the sleaze, lies and bribery?
How about all the killing?
....Americans torture now? Proud?

If actions speak louder than rhetoric, then
name ONE good thing about Republicanism.
Just one.

Just one *real* thing.

Can't do it?
You have only feelsgood rhetoric?

So? Your Republicanism more like a bad habit then?

 

[Mike Vandeman]

On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 17:12:18 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Interesting...everyone that posts on these usenet are liars in
>comparison with St Mike who has never told a lie.

That's because they are mountain bikers, who are incorrigible liars.

Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED:

"I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
a laugh.

http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg"

You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

 

[Ed Pirrero]

On Jun 2, 1:20 pm, Siskuwihane <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jun 2, 10:55 am, Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> You're never going to live it down that you are only half a man...

You give him more credit than he deserves. He's no man at all - just
a minor irritant in usenet, hardly even a human being.

E.P.

 

[Doug Bashford]

On Tue, 03, Mike Vandeman said about:
Re: Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.


> On Mon, 02 Jun (Doug Bashford) wrote:
>
> >
> >[email protected] said about:
> > Re: Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.
> >
> >
> >> Mike=Sociopath/personality disorder. The lines blur between truth and
> >> untruth for Mike.
> >>
> >> Interesting...everyone that posts on these usenet are liars in
> >> comparison with St Mike who has never told a lie.
> >
> >What a legacy he leaves, huh?
> >His tombstone will read: Here lies a good man who at every
> >turn lost track of the Big Picture, and died shaking
> >his fist at bicyclists.
>
> The only ones shaking their fists are mountain bikers. And getting
> apoplectic, to boot:
>
> X-Apparently-To: [email protected] via 68.142.199.95; Thu, 29 May

And you consider that a victory?
And you don't even see how low you have sunk.

Did you know?
The man who washes his hands 20, 40 times a day,
and checks his locked doors 10, 40 times a day,
not only can explain why why it's normal, but
why it's rational. But more, he will have a whole
belief system to back that up, he will see "proof"
and validation of this world view countless times.
His actions are only logical.
Except his actions developed BEFORE his world view.

How would you describe that Mike?

Did you know?
If we don't change our direction,
we'll end up where we're headed.

What does Vandeman value? Who is he?
Google:
Results about 18,300 from Jan 1, 1981 to Aug 31, 2008 for
author:Vandeman
....and without bikes:
Results 2,670 from Jan 1, 1981 to Aug 31, 2008 for -bike OR
-biker OR -bikes author:Vandeman
...or one in 6.85 not about bikes.


Results 2,720 from Jan 1, 2006 to Aug 31, 2008 for
author:Vandeman
....and without bikes:
Results 61 from Jan 1, 2006 to Aug 31, 2008 for -bike OR
-biker OR -bikes author:Vandeman
...or one in 44.59.


If we don't change our direction,
we'll end up where we're headed.




PURE Republicanism?? It's now clear.
Six years of PURE Republicanism - BOTH houses
AND the Prez. Pure as it gets.
So?
Are you better off now than seven years ago?
Are you proud with what they have done to
America and her reputation? ...To your reputation?
....all the sleaze, lies and bribery?
How about all the killing?
....Americans torture now? Proud?

If actions speak louder than rhetoric, then
name ONE good thing about Republicanism.
Just one.

Just one *real* thing.

Can't do it?
You have only feelsgood rhetoric?

So? Your Republicanism more like a bad habit then?

 

[DI]

"Doug Bashford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> PURE Republicanism?? It's now clear.
> Six years of PURE Republicanism - BOTH houses
> AND the Prez. Pure as it gets.
> So?
> Are you better off now than seven years ago?
> Are you proud with what they have done to
> America and her reputation? ...To your reputation?
> ...all the sleaze, lies and bribery?
> How about all the killing?
> ...Americans torture now? Proud?
>
> If actions speak louder than rhetoric, then
> name ONE good thing about Republicanism.
> Just one.
>
> Just one *real* thing.
>
> Can't do it?
> You have only feelsgood rhetoric?
>
> So? Your Republicanism more like a bad habit then?
>
********, at least we don't have any more government control of our life
like we'll have with Obama or Hillary running the show with their socialist
ideas/

 

[Mike Vandeman]

On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:20:49 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Bashford)
wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, 03, Mike Vandeman said about:
> Re: Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.
>
>
>> On Mon, 02 Jun (Doug Bashford) wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >[email protected] said about:
>> > Re: Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.
>> >
>> >
>> >> Mike=Sociopath/personality disorder. The lines blur between truth and
>> >> untruth for Mike.
>> >>
>> >> Interesting...everyone that posts on these usenet are liars in
>> >> comparison with St Mike who has never told a lie.
>> >
>> >What a legacy he leaves, huh?
>> >His tombstone will read: Here lies a good man who at every
>> >turn lost track of the Big Picture, and died shaking
>> >his fist at bicyclists.
>>
>> The only ones shaking their fists are mountain bikers. And getting
>> apoplectic, to boot:
>>
>> X-Apparently-To: [email protected] via 68.142.199.95; Thu, 29 May
>
>And you consider that a victory?
>And you don't even see how low you have sunk.

Me? I'm not the one threatening people. MOUNTAIN BIKERS are doing
that. REGULARLY. And LYING constantly, as you do.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

 

[Beej Jorgensen]

Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote:
>Me? I'm not the one threatening people. MOUNTAIN BIKERS are doing that.
>REGULARLY. And LYING constantly, as you do.

You weren't by any chance out in front of the Berkeley library (main
branch) about 7 pm on Monday, were you?

There was a pedestrian arguing with a cyclist quite loudly, and it
reminded me of you.

(I borrowed a DVD copy of The Candidate. Excellent flick.)

-Beej

 

[Mike Vandeman]

On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 07:33:44 +0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Me? I'm not the one threatening people. MOUNTAIN BIKERS are doing that.
>>REGULARLY. And LYING constantly, as you do.
>
>You weren't by any chance out in front of the Berkeley library (main
>branch) about 7 pm on Monday, were you?
>
>There was a pedestrian arguing with a cyclist quite loudly, and it
>reminded me of you.

We're EVERYWHERE! You can run, but you can't hide!

>(I borrowed a DVD copy of The Candidate. Excellent flick.)
>
>-Beej
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

 

[[email protected]]

Sociopath

 

[Ed Pirrero]

On Jun 4, 4:32 pm, "DI" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Doug Bashford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > PURE Republicanism?? It's now clear.
> > Six years of PURE Republicanism - BOTH houses
> > AND the Prez. Pure as it gets.
> > So?
> > Are you better off now than seven years ago?
> > Are you proud with what they have done to
> > America and her reputation? ...To your reputation?
> > ...all the sleaze, lies and bribery?
> > How about all the killing?
> > ...Americans torture now? Proud?
>
> > If actions speak louder than rhetoric, then
> > name ONE good thing about Republicanism.
> > Just one.
>
> > Just one *real* thing.
>
> > Can't do it?
> > You have only feelsgood rhetoric?
>
> > So? Your Republicanism more like a bad habit then?
>
> ********, at least we don't have any more government control of our life
> like we'll have with Obama or Hillary running the show with their socialist
> ideas/

You obviously have no idea what socialism is.

Get some education.

E.P.

 

[Doug Bashford]

DI said about:
Re: Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.


>
> "Doug Bashford" wrote

> > PURE Republicanism?? It's now clear.
> > Six years of PURE Republicanism - BOTH houses
> > AND the Prez. Pure as it gets.
> > So?
> > Are you better off now than seven years ago?
> > Are you proud with what they have done to
> > America and her reputation? ...To your reputation?
> > ...all the sleaze, lies and bribery?
> > How about all the killing?
> > ...Americans torture now? Proud?
> >
> > If actions speak louder than rhetoric, then
> > name ONE good thing about Republicanism.
> > Just one.
> >
> > Just one *real* thing.
> >
> > Can't do it?
> > You have only feelsgood rhetoric?
> >
> > So? Your Republicanism more like a bad habit then?
> >
> ********, at least we don't have any more government control of our life
> like we'll have with Obama or Hillary running the show with their socialist
> ideas/

Rush Limbaugh would disagree with you.
....so would say, Right Winger Pat Buchannon.

Republicans are like drunken sailors with an
enemy's Gold Card. SPEND SPEND SPEND !!
...of course for them,
government IS the enemy.

Why are you so deluded?
Where do you get yer news anyway!?
Fox News !!????

Rush Limbaugh:
"Voters who voted yesterday believe that
Republicans are; "the big government party now."
How can you blame them?"
-- Rush Limbaugh November 8, 2006

PURE Republicanism?? It's now clear.
Six years of PURE Republicanism - BOTH houses
AND the Prez. Pure as it gets.
So?
Are you better off now than seven years ago?
Are you proud with what they have done to
America and her reputation? ...To your reputation?
....all the sleaze, lies and bribery?
How about all the killing?
....Americans torture now? Proud?

If actions speak louder than rhetoric, then
name ONE good thing about Republicanism.
Just one.

Just one *real* thing.

Can't do it?
You have only feelsgood rhetoric?

So? Your Republicanism more like a bad habit then?