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Re: Why calorie restricted diets are so dangerous

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  1. One is free indeed to say what they want, and still be offering bunck and
    horse puckies, still. When confrounted with the scientific research to
    show that in a controlled setting a decrease in calories results in a loss
    in weight, as you demanded be shown to exist, you started on your now
    familiar/sad rant that the food industry/universities have a conspiracy to
    cook, pun intended, research which shows calories are bhe basis for one's
    weight status. With this new tact you continued to maintain that the
    concensus on the topic was all a matter of old wife tales among
    medical/nutrition folk and there is no evidence to show it.

    As mentioned recently in a recent thread, you do not read and comprehend
    well what is written you, I have never advocated a low fat diet and I have
    in fact detaled what I do suggest any number of times and you replied to
    those posts in many instances. "Studies" is too strong a word for what
    you often post, I used to post specific information that one can find
    using scientific related search enjines in response to your rants, no more
    because it soon became clear it a fool's errand because you do not have
    much exprience with science, know how to interpret research and offer
    nothing in return but retoric and rephrasing of diet book authors and
    other such as your best effort. While rejecting it so strongly in past it
    is now intresting and amusing this more recent attempt to remanufacture
    yourself in a scientific mode and whose views are now such that we will
    just to have to agree to disagree based on your grasp of the relevant
    research on some topic. Bunk and horse puckies.

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    I can say that the studies that I presented were eityer absent of any
    conflicts of interest or they stated theirs up front. That, in my
    opinion, makes them much more relevant than the majority of the studies
    that you low fatters have presented. regardless of the number, size,
    length or any other such factor.

    TC

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    It is not bunk, it is science. I've offered proof in many, many


    posts

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    over the last couple of years. I've presented a large number of


    studies

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    that have found low-carb to work better than low-fat and be


    healthier

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    by its reduction of cholesterol and improvement of other health
    indicators.

    You can prove me wrong by doing as I suggested in the post that you
    responded to. You can really prove me wrong by going further and


    eating

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    a high-fat/high-calorie/low-refined carb diet for two months. Keep
    track of the calories and your weight and your general health
    indicators such as cholesterol and blood sugars, etc. Then switch to


    a

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    high-carb/low-fat/low-calorie diet for two months, track your


    calories

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    and your weight and your health indocators.

    Then come back and tell us what happened.

    TC

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    > Bunk, pure horse puckies, total unsupported [censored]; I'm feeling
    charitable
    > today. Provide support on the web outside your assertions. Did
    those in
    > the camps in europe only restrict carbs? You have failed


    completely

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    in
    > supporting your nutritional theology before, but let's give you
    another
    > chance. Show us how calories are not involved in weight status,


    show

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    us
    > how restricting them doesn't lead to weight loss.
    >
    >
    > >You just got lucky in that you happen to inadvertently restrict


    the

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    > >right things ie. carbs.
    > >
    > >Try cutting fats and upping refined carbs and I guarantee you


    that

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    your
    > >apparent ability to easily control your weight will go right out


    the

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    > >window. That is what has happened to millions when they


    specifically

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    > >try to lose weight by cutting fats.
    > >
    > >TC
    > >
    > >Chris Malcolm wrote:
    > >> Doug Freese <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> > Trying to control weight strictly by food/caloric intake
    > >> > reduction is doomed to fail.
    > >>
    > >> Except of course in my case. Whenever my trousers get too


    small, I

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    > >> start eating a bit less until they fit. It's worked for thirty
    years.
    > >>
    > >> What do you think explains my strange response of losing weight


    to

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    > >> reducing portion size? Is there something wrong with me?
    > >>
    > >> --
    > >> Chris Malcolm [email hidden] +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD
    #205
    > >> IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9


    3JZ,

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    UK
    > >> [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

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