Re: When does the Tour d'France start?

Ken said:

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Well unless you really live out of the way, you should have cable anyway.
But if you are that frugal, and have no cable, I think I read somewhere that
the discovery channel is going to be webcasting it. But then you would need
a broadband internet connection.

Ken

Not having cable is not just based on being frugal. Although at around
$45 a month for basic cable it is one reason. Other than, a few, not
worth it exceptions, there is nothing worth watching.

I may see if they have a free install, maybe I could sign up, just for
the month of July.

Life is Good!
Jeff

Ken said:

Well I am frugal, and I have cable just for the quality of the picture. I
get all the local channels, plus the Disovery Channel, the Learning Channel,
the Discovery Health Channel, the History Channel, A&E all of which I think
make it a worth while investment for $35.00 a month

Unless you are somehow going to make money on this, I think it's an expense.

Rich

Maggie said:

How can anyone survive without cable?

It's easy. Try it, you might find more time for family, exercising, or
just getting out and doing things. That's far better then watching
other people do things.

Rich

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Ken said:

Well I am frugal, and I have cable just for the quality of the picture. I
get all the local channels, plus the Disovery Channel, the Learning
Channel, the Discovery Health Channel, the History Channel, A&E all of
which I think make it a worth while investment for $35.00 a month

Unless you are somehow going to make money on this, I think it's an
expense.

Rich

Maybe you would like the educational type stuff, that is mostly what I
watch.

Ken

Maggie said:

How can anyone survive without cable? How do you watch the Sopranos?
Without cable I would never have a tv. I also have HBO on Demand and
Movies on Demand.

That's what BitTorrent and DirectConnect are for. It's also nice in
that I'm not tied to any network's schedule and I don't have to watch
the ads. Though I probably only watch about one show a month, I have
hours and hours of programming sitting on my hard drive waiting to be
viewed.

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Really, my favorite gumba's The Sopranos aside, I think the cable
stations have much more interesting documentaries, specials, and
entertainment. Regular TV is worthless. I think it is 90 percent
reality shows. And non stop news. All bad or sensational. And of
course you have those shows where people lay in rats and eat roaches.

Sturgeon's law: http://www.jargon.net/jargonfile/s/SturgeonsLaw.html

Summary: 90% of everything is crud. Of course in American television
I think the percentage might be more like 99.5% IMHO of course.
YMMV. Offer void where prohibited. Do not taunt happy fun ball.

--
Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g
THE LESSER-KNOWN PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES #16: C-

This language was named for the grade received by its creator when he
submitted it as a class project in a graduate programming class. C- is best
described as a "low-level" programming language. In fact, the language
generally requires more C- statements than machine-code statements to
execute a given task. In this respect, it is very similar to COBOL.

Ken said:

Well I am frugal, and I have cable just for the quality of the picture. I
get all the local channels, plus the Disovery Channel, the Learning Channel,
the Discovery Health Channel, the History Channel, A&E all of which I think
make it a worth while investment for $35.00 a month

Ken

Ken, the quality of the picture that I receive by antenna, is
excellent. I have a small HDTV, so all my local stations are digital.

I don't watch a lot of TV, I prefer to listen to music, if I am just
sitting around. I often don't turn the TV on until the 10pm news and
then I watch Letterman.

For me, $35 would be an expense that I don't want or need. But, to
each, his own.

Life is Good!
Jeff

On 15 Jun 2005 12:20:50 -0700, "Maggie" <[email hidden]>

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How can anyone survive without cable? How do you watch the Sopranos?
Without cable I would never have a tv. I also have HBO on Demand and
Movies on Demand.

Really, my favorite gumba's The Sopranos aside, I think the cable
stations have much more interesting documentaries, specials, and
entertainment. Regular TV is worthless. I think it is 90 percent
reality shows. And non stop news. All bad or sensational. And of
course you have those shows where people lay in rats and eat roaches.

Maggie

Maggie, I don't care, the only network show, that I regularly watch,
is the original CSI. Otherwise I don't watch much primetime TV. I have
never seen a "reality" show. Once again, don't care.

Rich is right, maybe instead of plopping down in front of the TV, you
could be doing something worthwhile.

Life is Good!
Jeff

Rich said:

Maggie said:

How can anyone survive without cable?

It's easy. Try it, you might find more time for family, exercising, or
just getting out and doing things. That's far better then watching
other people do things.

Rich

I don't watch alot of TV.....but if I do, I want something interesting
to watch. You can have a cable in your house and have the self
control to live your life and not get caught up in too much TV. It is
possible. I think I lead a full life, even with cable. Hard to
imagine, but I do.

Maggie.

Rich said:

Maggie said:

How can anyone survive without cable?

It's easy. Try it, you might find more time for family, exercising, or
just getting out and doing things. That's far better then watching
other people do things.

Rich

I don't watch alot of TV.....but if I do, I want something interesting
to watch. You can have a cable in your house and have the self
control to live your life and not get caught up in too much TV. It is
possible. I think I lead a full life, even with cable. Hard to
imagine, but I do.

Maggie.

Maggie said:

Rich said:

Maggie said:

How can anyone survive without cable?

It's easy. Try it, you might find more time for family, exercising, or
just getting out and doing things. That's far better then watching
other people do things.

Rich

I don't watch alot of TV.....but if I do, I want something interesting
to watch. You can have a cable in your house and have the self
control to live your life and not get caught up in too much TV. It is
possible. I think I lead a full life, even with cable. Hard to
imagine, but I do.

Maggie.

That is the one time a year when I am glued to the television, but only
the recorded version. Getting up at 4:00 AM is just so early to watch an
average 4 hours of riding. Unless there is a pileup or Lance pulls one
of his "Beyond category" rides 4 hours is a lot of live television. All
4 of mine a getting some down time from me, but my wife and daughter
remain under the influence of the idiot box.
Bill Baka

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Maggie said:

Rich said:

Maggie wrote:

>How can anyone survive without cable?

It's easy. Try it, you might find more time for family, exercising, or
just getting out and doing things. That's far better then watching
other people do things.

Rich

I don't watch alot of TV.....but if I do, I want something interesting
to watch. You can have a cable in your house and have the self
control to live your life and not get caught up in too much TV. It is
possible. I think I lead a full life, even with cable. Hard to
imagine, but I do. Maggie.

That is the one time a year when I am glued to the television, but only
the recorded version. Getting up at 4:00 AM is just so early to watch an
average 4 hours of riding. Unless there is a pileup or Lance pulls one of
his "Beyond category" rides 4 hours is a lot of live television. All 4 of
mine a getting some down time from me, but my wife and daughter remain
under the influence of the idiot box.
Bill Baka

Funny some people call it the idiot box, I watch mostly educational
programming. And in my opinion most of the people that call it the "idiot
box" are idiots themselves. With some exceptions.

Ken

Ken said:

Funny some people call it the idiot box, I watch mostly educational
programming. And in my opinion most of the people that call it the "idiot
box" are idiots themselves. With some exceptions.

Ken

There is alot to watch on cable. If Television is your main source of
entertainment/recreation, then the box is not the idiot, the person is
the idiot. An intelligent life is BALANCED. My one son loves the
History Channel, whenever he puts the TV on, he watches that channel.
Alot of rare footage.

Anyway, there is much to be found on cable. If all you find is Anna
Nicole Smith losing weight, than you are looking for that. And you are
an idiot. If you watch things like the History Channel and educational
TV you will be amazed at the footage you will see.

TV is not a big part of my life, but when I do watch, I want to be able
to see good TV, not idiot TV. Cable has American Movie Classics, Arts
& Entertainment, The Discovery Channel, Disney Channel, ESPN, The
Learning Channel, etc. Without cable, there is not much substance on
Television.

There was a time when intellectuals would say they would never watch
Television, since cable, I do not think this is true. There is
science, literature, nature, etc. on cable. We can see things some of
us could never see in person. I don't have the money to take an African
Safari. I do have the funds to see it on cable. ;-)

Maggie...lovin' cable.

Maggie

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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:54:48 -0400, "Ken"
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For me, $35 would be an expense that I don't want or need.

We don't get TV reception here, so the only choice is cable if we want TV.
There's a limited amount of TV we watch in our household, but it is all on
the "expanded cable" stations. I watch the Daily Show and have the "Opera
Channel" (Classic Arts Showcase http://www.classicartsshowcase.org/) on when
I'm working in the kitchen. My younger daughter watches fluffy pre-teen
shows on the Disney Channel. My husband watches Trek reruns on Spike. And
yeah, we all watch the TdF on OLN in the summer. I hate to spend the money
on expanded cable, but there is NOTHING on standard network TV that anyone
here would bother with.

There's a lot of TV though I admit I've never seen that everyone loves --
West Wing, Friends, Cheers, Desperate Housewives -- the list is quite long.
Maybe I'm missing out on something, but so far, I don't feel bereft.

--
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Claire Petersky
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:54:48 -0400, "Ken"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

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For me, $35 would be an expense that I don't want or need.

We don't get TV reception here, so the only choice is cable if we want TV.
There's a limited amount of TV we watch in our household, but it is all on
the "expanded cable" stations. I watch the Daily Show and have the "Opera
Channel" (Classic Arts Showcase http://www.classicartsshowcase.org/) on
when
I'm working in the kitchen. My younger daughter watches fluffy pre-teen
shows on the Disney Channel. My husband watches Trek reruns on Spike. And
yeah, we all watch the TdF on OLN in the summer. I hate to spend the money
on expanded cable, but there is NOTHING on standard network TV that anyone
here would bother with.

There's a lot of TV though I admit I've never seen that everyone loves --
West Wing, Friends, Cheers, Desperate Housewives -- the list is quite
long.
Maybe I'm missing out on something, but so far, I don't feel bereft.

--
Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
Personal page: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/
See the books I've set free at:
http://bookcrossing.com/referr­al/Cpetersky

Well if it were not for cable programming I would not have a T.V. the
"stuff" on normal television 99% of it is a waste of time. When I do watch
cable it is mostly something informative like news or something at least
slightly educational.

Ken

Claire said:

We don't get TV reception here, so the only choice is cable if we want TV....
There's a lot of TV though I admit I've never seen that everyone loves --
West Wing, Friends, Cheers, Desperate Housewives -- the list is quite long.
Maybe I'm missing out on something, but so far, I don't feel bereft.

My favorite newspaper used to run columns by not one, nor two, but
THREE TV columnists. After reading each one, I never felt compelled to
pick up the clicker (to turn the thing on).

A bike club buddy taped the '04 TdF marathon over Thanksgiving
weekend. I have yet to find the time to watch it (besides, I know who
won).

It's amazing that a non-watcher can still participate in
conversations about popular culture. "You're fired." And I have not
wasted one minute on that show. At a live taping of "Wait Wait Don't
Tell Me" (it's on NPR), one caller participant admitted, "I don't watch
reality shows." Wild applause ensued. She also could not guess the
answer to the question (Britney Spears), and we cheered for that, too.

I am trying to explain to my tween & teen nieces that there is a
whole lot more of living going on outside the basement wide screen.
They feel sorry for me because I haven't seen a Star Wars flick beyond
the one with the teddy bears.

My bike club is setting up some TdF parties...get together in the
evening, eat, drink, and scream at the set.

HTH

--Karen M.
kill your television

Ken said:

Funny some people call it the idiot box, I watch mostly educational
programming. And in my opinion most of the people that call it the "idiot
box" are idiots themselves. With some exceptions.

I always preferred the term "The Glass Teat" myself.

This is the guy I try *not* to be:
http://davefaq.com/Opinions/Television/Onion.html

--
Dane "Usually Not An Idiot" Jackson - z u v e m b i@u n i x b i g o t s . o r g
Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge even
where there is no river. -- Nikita Khrushchev

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Ken said:

Funny some people call it the idiot box, I watch mostly educational
programming. And in my opinion most of the people that call it the "idiot
box" are idiots themselves. With some exceptions.

I always preferred the term "The Glass Teat" myself.

This is the guy I try *not* to be:
http://davefaq.com/Opinions/Television/Onion.html

Well that "guy" needs to not make it the into every conversation that he
doesn't own a t.v.!! I mean if that is what turns you on fine sit and watch
as much as you like. I spend too much time on the internet. Or too much time
tinkering with some piece of cycling equiptment. Everyone has a weakness.

Ken

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--
Dane "Usually Not An Idiot" Jackson - z u v e m b i@u n i x b i g o t s .
o r g
Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge even
where there is no river. -- Nikita Khrushchev