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  1. Quoted message said:

    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

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    Very insecure comments.
    Anth

    Anth, I'm sure you think that I'm being unjustly hard on you. Well, look


    it it

    Quoted message said:

    this way, you seriously ask, on a usenet group, if the entire world is


    enslaved

    Quoted message said:

    to a conspiracy to suppress real science and medicine in order to fund


    science

    Quoted message said:

    and medicine which just don't work as well. You expressed doubts that you
    should go into research because of the potential for a conspiracy to
    hide/destroy/discredit your life's work.

    I don't think you are hard on me and if you were I could care less in all
    honesty.
    I seem to remember my first post on this and you instantly attacked it,
    without looking and even considering the Cancell test results
    which did show it outperformed a golden standard chemo drug in petri

    The term is "in vitro". IF you had any common sense, you'd know that bleach
    outperforms almost all anti-biotics, anti-virals, and anti-cancer drugs, in
    vitro. In a human body, the type in question, Cancell does Jack-[censored].

    Quoted message said:

    The
    drug was labelled basically useless and 'showing no biological
    effect worthy of further study.' if you had considered the results then you
    would not have labelled me like you did and do.

    I heard about Cancell long before you waddled onto MHA. Its a farce just like
    ALL other alt-med products that "cure" cancer. Its for the weak-minded,
    scientifically illiterate, desperate, and the paranoid conspiracy freaks.
    Decent people have nothing to do with it, period.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    You are extremely credulous, have no back-bone to speak out against


    bigotry,

    Quoted message said:

    and yet you think that _I_ am insecure. Get a clue, Anth, or become one


    with

    Quoted message said:

    the Jan Drew's, DEBBEE1023's, and Ilena's.

    I do speak out against bigotry and still do with monopolies and supressed
    information.

    Oh, so supposed Eeeeevil Organized Medicine conspiracies are more of an issue
    to you than the bigotry of your "like-minded", paranoid, alt-dufusses.

    Quoted message said:

    Why not point that big arrow of accusations against yourself and see how you
    are the closed minded bigot, because not only have I proved that I am not
    the bigot, I have just proved that you basically are.

    The only thing you've proved is how poor your reading comprehension,
    composition skills, and education are. You're really quite the dullard, ain't
    ya?

    Quoted message said:

    In my opinion I have
    an open mind and I embrace both methodologies within reason.
    Call that whatever you wish in your own limited way.

    You believe only what is comfortable for you to believe, regardless of how it
    contradicts proven realities. You only care about little Anth's belief system,
    a house of cards built on ignorance.

  2. It hasn't been proven through trials whether Cancell has an effect in the
    body. And yes I am aware of terms.
    And for your information I didn't state whether Cancell 'cures' cancer or
    not. I simply question why this information was not followed up.
    Bleach is toxic chemo is toxic both have their 'toxic' doses.
    Simply stating that 'Cancell is like bleach thus it kills cancer cells in
    petri' is hardly scientific exploration.
    If am a bigot them how come I can explore both methodologies?
    Anth

    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    >Very insecure comments.
    >Anth

    Anth, I'm sure you think that I'm being unjustly hard on you. Well,


    look

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    it it

    Quoted message said:

    this way, you seriously ask, on a usenet group, if the entire world is


    enslaved

    Quoted message said:

    to a conspiracy to suppress real science and medicine in order to fund


    science

    Quoted message said:

    and medicine which just don't work as well. You expressed doubts that


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    should go into research because of the potential for a conspiracy to
    hide/destroy/discredit your life's work.

    I don't think you are hard on me and if you were I could care less in all
    honesty.
    I seem to remember my first post on this and you instantly attacked it,
    without looking and even considering the Cancell test results
    which did show it outperformed a golden standard chemo drug in petri

    The term is "in vitro". IF you had any common sense, you'd know that


    bleach

    Quoted message said:

    outperforms almost all anti-biotics, anti-virals, and anti-cancer drugs,


    in

    Quoted message said:

    vitro. In a human body, the type in question, Cancell does Jack-[censored].

    Quoted message said:

    The
    drug was labelled basically useless and 'showing no biological
    effect worthy of further study.' if you had considered the results then


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    would not have labelled me like you did and do.

    I heard about Cancell long before you waddled onto MHA. Its a farce just


    like

    Quoted message said:

    ALL other alt-med products that "cure" cancer. Its for the weak-minded,
    scientifically illiterate, desperate, and the paranoid conspiracy freaks.
    Decent people have nothing to do with it, period.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    You are extremely credulous, have no back-bone to speak out against


    bigotry,

    Quoted message said:

    and yet you think that _I_ am insecure. Get a clue, Anth, or become


    one

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    with

    Quoted message said:

    the Jan Drew's, DEBBEE1023's, and Ilena's.

    I do speak out against bigotry and still do with monopolies and supressed
    information.

    Oh, so supposed Eeeeevil Organized Medicine conspiracies are more of an


    issue

    Quoted message said:

    to you than the bigotry of your "like-minded", paranoid, alt-dufusses.

    Quoted message said:

    Why not point that big arrow of accusations against yourself and see how


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    are the closed minded bigot, because not only have I proved that I am not
    the bigot, I have just proved that you basically are.

    The only thing you've proved is how poor your reading comprehension,
    composition skills, and education are. You're really quite the dullard,


    ain't

    Quoted message said:

    ya?

    Quoted message said:

    In my opinion I have
    an open mind and I embrace both methodologies within reason.
    Call that whatever you wish in your own limited way.

    You believe only what is comfortable for you to believe, regardless of how


    it

    Quoted message said:

    contradicts proven realities. You only care about little Anth's belief


    system,

    Quoted message said:

    a house of cards built on ignorance.

  3. Quoted message said:

    It hasn't been proven through trials whether Cancell has an effect in the
    body. And yes I am aware of terms.
    And for your information I didn't state whether Cancell 'cures' cancer or
    not. I simply question why this information was not followed up.

    Well, for starters, it doesn't have any plausible mechanism of action.
    Secondly, it is a product hyped by the inventor, pushed as a cancer cure, and
    does not cure cancer. Its a [censored] product, pushed on scientifically
    illiterate and desperate people. No follow-up required.

    Quoted message said:

    Bleach is toxic chemo is toxic both have their 'toxic' doses.
    Simply stating that 'Cancell is like bleach thus it kills cancer cells in
    petri' is hardly scientific exploration.

    Nor is it my point. My point is that many things kill cancer cells in vitro.
    Few perform as a usable cancer treatment in living tissue, much less human
    beings. Saying something kills cancer in vitro is a pretty worthless
    statement. Plutonium, bleach, gasoline, cyanide, and mercury will all do that.
    Which of those do you want as YOUR cancer treatment?

    Quoted message said:

    If am a bigot them how come I can explore both methodologies?
    Anth

    Anth, you are not a bigot as far as medical methodology goes, at least not as
    far as I am concerned. You supported bigoted [censored] like Jan. You believe
    in the conspiracy theories of bigoted idiots like Carole, DEBBEE, and Jan. You
    are Credulous, not bigoted, with regards to science (and quite scientifically
    illiterate, to boot)

  4. "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It hasn't been proven through trials whether Cancell has an effect in the
    body. And yes I am aware of terms.
    And for your information I didn't state whether Cancell 'cures' cancer or
    not. I simply question why this information was not followed up.

    Well, for starters, it doesn't have any plausible mechanism of action.
    Secondly, it is a product hyped by the inventor, pushed as a cancer cure,


    and

    Quoted message said:

    does not cure cancer. Its a [censored] product, pushed on scientifically
    illiterate and desperate people. No follow-up required.

    How do you know? Have you seen the clinical trials behind it? Nope because
    there is none. I smell hypocracy.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Bleach is toxic chemo is toxic both have their 'toxic' doses.
    Simply stating that 'Cancell is like bleach thus it kills cancer cells in
    petri' is hardly scientific exploration.

    Nor is it my point. My point is that many things kill cancer cells in


    vitro.

    Quoted message said:

    Few perform as a usable cancer treatment in living tissue, much less human
    beings. Saying something kills cancer in vitro is a pretty worthless
    statement. Plutonium, bleach, gasoline, cyanide, and mercury will all do


    that.

    Quoted message said:

    Which of those do you want as YOUR cancer treatment?

    Quoted message said:

    If am a bigot them how come I can explore both methodologies?
    Anth

    I believe the conspiracies because they are there. I 'support' Jan because I
    have an 'open mind' and I find some of the stuff she posts interesting.

    Quoted message said:

    Anth, you are not a bigot as far as medical methodology goes, at least not


    as

    Quoted message said:

    far as I am concerned. You supported bigoted [censored] like Jan. You


    believe

    Quoted message said:

    in the conspiracy theories of bigoted idiots like Carole, DEBBEE, and Jan.


    You

    Quoted message said:

    are Credulous, not bigoted, with regards to science (and quite


    scientifically

    Quoted message said:

    illiterate, to boot)

  5. (Ilsa9) said:

    I heard about Cancell long before you waddled onto MHA. Its a farce just like
    ALL other alt-med products that "cure" cancer. Its for the weak-minded,
    scientifically illiterate, desperate, and the paranoid conspiracy freaks.
    Decent people have nothing to do with it, period.

    I don't know about that. Decent people are sometimes deceived into
    using it in a desperate attempt to cure their cancers. Unfortunately,
    it is rare to get a testimonial from any of these decent people
    because the dead can't talk.

    I do agree, though, that decent people would not want to be parties to
    selling it or lying to people about it.

    --
    Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
    The Green Light http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight

  6. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: What this newsgroup is for?
    From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    Date: 7/11/2003 7:01 PM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    (Ilsa9) said:

    I heard about Cancell long before you waddled onto MHA. Its a farce just


    like

    Quoted message said:

    ALL other alt-med products that "cure" cancer. Its for the weak-minded,
    scientifically illiterate, desperate, and the paranoid conspiracy freaks.
    Decent people have nothing to do with it, period.

    I don't know about that.

    Neither does Andrew.

    Quoted message said:

    Decent people are sometimes deceived into
    using it in a desperate attempt to cure their cancers.

    I don't know about that.

    Prove they are deceived.

    Quoted message said:

    Unfortunately,
    it is rare to get a testimonial from any of these decent people
    because the dead can't talk.

    Oh??

    http://www.handpen.com/Cancell/testi.htm

    Quoted message said:

    I do agree, though, that decent people would not want to be parties to
    selling it or lying to people about it.

    Some decent people would rather not have this in their bodies.

    http://www.whatareweswallowing.freeserve.co.uk/chemospill.htm

    Decent people don't tell lies like you have either.

    Jan

  7. Jan said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: What this newsgroup is for?
    From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    Date: 7/11/2003 7:01 PM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    (Ilsa9) said:

    I heard about Cancell long before you waddled onto MHA. Its a farce just

    like

    Quoted message said:

    ALL other alt-med products that "cure" cancer. Its for the weak-minded,
    scientifically illiterate, desperate, and the paranoid conspiracy freaks.
    Decent people have nothing to do with it, period.

    I don't know about that.

    Neither does Andrew.

    Quoted message said:

    Decent people are sometimes deceived into
    using it in a desperate attempt to cure their cancers.

    I don't know about that.

    Prove they are deceived.

    Ask Hulda for a list of her five year survivors.

    My aunt was told that Laetrile would cure her cancer. If you visit San
    Diego, I'll give you the name of the cemetery she is buried in.

  8. The answer to the question in the subject line is quite varied ...

    There are many, many posters here (especially the cross dressing
    Cowards with fake names) ... who hail from the Healthfraud / Quack
    list maintained and censored by King Quack Steve Barrett ... and use
    this group to sell their Quack Agenda and books and courses ... and
    silence any critic of the Pharmaceutical / Med Device Cartels ...

    Barrett is an "advisor" to the ACSH ... funded by the Pharmaceutical
    and Chemical and Med Device cartels ...

    Others are here to discuss alternative therapies or products ...

    Usenet is the Wild West of the Internet ... and know one is able to
    control other's ability to post here ...

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