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  1. Tom, I'm surprised at you for putting up a poll. We can guess, of
    course, but nobody can know what the weather will be like. Will it be
    windy every day? Rain every day? Rain + wind? Factors that are
    unknowns, like shoulder quality. That's what made the Strawberry Fields
    ride so good for training, BTW, the wide variety of road and shoulder
    qualities.

    I think any team that can hold their average speed to 15 mph (25 kph)
    or better will be well above average. Beyond that it's all about the
    unknown variables...

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  2. I voted for 25km/hr, but I think anywhere from 24-27km/hr could win it.
    The fastest riders should be able to ride at 25km/hr for over an hour
    at time, but not every team is made up of equally fast riders. You may
    have a fast rider that does an hour at 26km, followed by a not so fast
    rider on the team averaging 23km/hr. So I am basing my 25km/hr on the
    rough winning speed at the previous Unicon Marathon and also older 10km
    times.

    The variability in terrain, weather etc just make it more interesting
    to make guesses.

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  3. Assuming little to no headwinds, and few hills. My guess is 17 mph.

    15mph will be above average, but is totally within' reach of strong and
    well-trained, but not particuarly gifted atheletes.

    This of course assumes that there are a negligable amount of errors
    (getting lost, UPD's, equipment failure, injury).

    edit: My vote is 27kph (16.7mph)

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  4. mscalisi said:

    Assuming little to no headwinds, and few hills. My guess is 17 mph.

    15mph will be above average, but is totally within' reach of strong and
    well-trained, but not particuarly gifted atheletes.

    This of course assumes that there are a negligable amount of errors
    (getting lost, UPD's, equipment failure, injury).

    I think your prediction would be accurate in a team with equally fast
    riders. But looking at all the teams, I can't see many that have all
    three members that can ride at 17mph for an extended time.

    Also, that would be my prediction on a flat course (which by all
    accounts RTL will be).

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  5. GizmoDuck said:

    I think your prediction would be accurate in a team with equally fast
    riders. But looking at all the teams, I can't see many that have

    There only needs to be one! (smile?)

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  6. I voted 28kph. Obviously the fastest team is going to win, but I voted
    one lwoer cause I dont know how many teams are going to be able to keep
    that pace the whole race.

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  7. My logic is to use the fastest maintainable speed and subtract 1MPHish
    for transitions and other anomalies.

    Jerrick said:

    I voted 28kph. Obviously the fastest team is going to win, but I voted
    one lwoer cause I dont know how many teams are going to be able to keep
    that pace the whole race.

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  8. I think it's a long race and that speed distributions are leftward
    scewed. It's almost impossible to find yourself 15km/hr above your
    average but there are all kinds of reasons that you can spend time that
    far below your average (rare as they may be).

    Also, this is by no means a flat course:
    http://tinyurl.com/5odeq6

    From what I understand GUnis lose a lot of their advantage on hills?
    Also you never get back on the downhill what you lose on the uphill no
    matter what your mode of transportation, and that's doubly so on a
    uni.

    Finally, aren't a lot of these guesses pretty close to the hour
    record??

    I think these guesses are all pretty high ... high enough that I think
    my guess would be laughed off the forum!

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  9. Rereading the thread, I wouldn't use as strong of terms about John Foss
    or GizmoDuck's predictions as I did in my previous message.

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  10. looking at the profile the max and min are not too high, about 1000 feet
    250 metres change max. But it is quite rolling and there are some steep
    200 metre climbs, which is a decent bit of hill, i think that those
    coming expecting it pancake flat may be rather suprised.

    Joe

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  11. I noticed people writing about a race. Perhaps I can help a little. It
    seems like a very long race around back roads of N S. First year for
    this race, what do you all know about N S ?

    I performed at a busker fest in Halifax in '91, then drove around N. S.
    for a few weeks , and hung out on a hippy farm.

    Poorest hippy farm I ever saw. The people were doing great, it was the
    land that looked poor. The soil was very rocky and clay like. The trees
    were very short and stunted like. It was this way over most of the
    island that I saw.

    Compared to New England, it was a lot cooler and rainier. It might be
    worth looking at online, what the seasonal ranges are. I predict 50 %
    fog cold <70 degree, and half sunny.

    The slick clay soil might be a factor in most areas. The island is
    frozen most of the time, and the clay soil expands and contracts. So
    all summer, expect them to be doing lots of repaving everywhere. The
    roads that are being repaved are dirt and very slippery and my van was
    sliding all around when they were wet. There was lots of good sunny
    cool days. Several times it was cold and rainy all day, and the roads
    were very slick. I was driving in a van. I'm just trying to imagine
    what going up these mild, yet wet slippery slopes would be like on my
    36 with it's TA tire.

    I bet it will be a real fun race.🙂 Considering how hard you riders
    will be pumping, the cold rainy days won't be to cold, and the sunny
    days are very mild.😎

    Trying to be helpful, I would suggest to carry an extra tire with tread
    and maybe even some studs in the spares kit. I am likely wrong. Yet in
    the rainy days I remember, I could see wanting to switch out a TA to a
    knobby with studs.

    I don't know the rules, I am assuming you are allowed to swap tires on
    this long race. The most helpful tip I can come up with is to point out
    that the soil there is a slick clay in most places. A TA, like I have
    on my 36, is a great tire, but would it be the right tire for the slick
    surfaces you should find in Nova Scotia?

    Perhaps the entire course will be run on perfect smooth dry pavement.

    If it's possible, having a choice of tires might be very helpful.😄

    I drove all around N S for a few weeks, and hundreds of miles.

    Beautiful place. Most places I went was slick clay, as it's natural
    soil . It rained enough in the weeks I was there , that places didn't
    dry out.

    I wish I could be there. I am sure it will be a really fun time. Oh
    yeah, I don't remember flats. It's like long distances of rolling
    hills.🙂

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