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Re: What Is NOT Said About Ritalin

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  1. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: What Is NOT Said About Ritalin
    From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    Date: 8/17/2003 4:54 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    (Jan) said:

    ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDER- A DUBIOUS DIAGNOSIS?
    CHADD...
    (Children and Adults with Attention Deficit Disorder) Thousands of parents


    turn

    Quoted message said:

    to A.D.D. "support groups" for information and help. They expect that the
    information will be accurate, unbiased and complete. The largest of these
    support groups is CHADD, Children and Adults with Attention Deficit


    Disorder.

    Just one question for Jan - why do you hate children so much that you
    do not want to see them treated in order to improve their lives?

    An absolutely ridiculous question. *I* of all people certainly do NOT hate
    children.

    The improvement one sees doesn't last.

    Now back to the subject.

    http://www.pbs.org/merrow/tv/add/chadd.html

    ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDER- A DUBIOUS DIAGNOSIS?
    CHADD...
    (Children and Adults with Attention Deficit Disorder) Thousands of parents turn
    to A.D.D. "support groups" for information and help. They expect that the
    information will be accurate, unbiased and complete. The largest of these
    support groups is CHADD, Children and Adults with Attention Deficit Disorder.

    As we report in "Attention Deficit Disorder: A Dubious Diagnosis?", many
    parents do not know that CHADD has for years been receiving large sums of money
    from the maker of Ritalin, Ciba-Geigy.
    Here is some of what CHADD's literature tells parents, along with information
    it doesn't present.

    CHADD SAYS:
    "Psychostimulant medications are not addictive."

    WHAT'S NOT SAID:
    Methylphenidate and Ritalin are nearly identical to amphetamine- otherwise
    known as "speed". The federal Drug Enforcement Administration puts
    methylphenidate in the same class of drugs as morphine and codeine- drugs with
    legitimate medical application, but a high potential for abuse. Withdrawal
    effects (agitation, marked anxiety, and tension) from psychostimulants are
    common, and many doctors recommend tapering the dosage before discontinuing
    medication.

    CHADD SAYS:
    "The most likely cause of A.D.D. is a chemical imbalance or deficiency in
    certain chemicals in the brain that are located in the area responsible for
    attention and activity."

    WHAT'S NOT SAID:
    CHADD bases this claim on a 1990 study by Dr. Alan Zametkin of the National
    Institutes of Health (NIH), which found slightly lower levels of glucose
    metabolism in the brains of adults diagnosed with hyperactivity. Not mentioned
    by CHADD are the succeeding attempts* to replicate those results in children.
    Dr. Zametkin's later studies found "no statistically significant differences"
    between the brains of normal children and children diagnosed with A.D.H.D. The
    root cause of the disorder remains unknown.

    *Brain Metabolism in Teenagers With ADHD" ( Arch. Gen. Psychiatry, Vol. 50, May
    1993) and "Reduced Brain Metabolism is Hyperactive Girls" ( J. Am. Acad. Child
    Adolesc. Psychiatry, 33: 6, July/August 1994)

    CHADD SAYS:
    "Emotional difficulties, including substance abuse, are more likely to occur
    when a child with A.D.D. is not treated."

    WHAT'S NOT SAID:
    There are no conclusive studies showing that treatment of A.D.D. reduces the
    risk of drug abuse. Even Ciba-Geigy's chief physician declined to support
    CHADD's assertion.

    CHADD SAYS:
    "Medication is not used to control behavior-medication is used to improve the
    symptoms of A.D.D."

    WHAT'S NOT SAID:
    The symptoms of A.D.D. outlined by the American Psychiatric Association
    (fidgets with hands or feet or squirms in seat, has difficulty remaining seated
    when required to do so, is easily distracted by extraneous stimuli, etc.) are
    all behavioral. Medication is used to help control these symptoms. Controlling
    behavior and improving the symptoms of A.D.D. are one and the same.

    CHADD SAYS:
    "Between 70-80% of children respond positively to these (psycho-stimulant)
    medications."

    WHAT'S NOT SAID:
    Research suggests that medication may not be so effective a treatment. Dr.
    James Swanson, Director of the Child Development Center at the University of
    California, has written: "...the short term effects of stimulants on academic
    performance are minimal compared to the effects on behavior, and there is no
    evidence of beneficial effects on learning or academic achievement."*

    *"Treatment of A.D.D.: Beyond Medication" (Beyond Behavior, Fall 1992/Vol. 4
    No,1)

    CHADD SAYS:
    "Hundreds of studies on thousands of children have been conducted regarding the
    effects of psycho-stimulant medications. Relatively few long term side effects
    have been identified."

    WHAT'S NOT SAID:
    Hundreds of studies on stimulant medications have been conducted, but few have
    looked at long term side effects. Measuring the long term effects of pediatric
    medications is prohibitive because of legal and ethical dilemmas surrounding
    the use of children as test subjects. The federal Food and Drug Administration
    labeling for Ritalin includes the specific warning "Sufficient data on the
    safety and efficacy of long term use of Ritalin in children are not yet
    available."
    ==============================
    Study: Psychiatric drugs overprescribed for kids

    The number of 2- to 4-year-olds taking psychiatric drugs like Ritalin
    and Prozac soared 50 percent between 1991 and 1995, according to a new
    study that experts said reveals a troubling and growing trend.

    Doctors said the effects of such drugs are largely unknown in children
    so young and they worry the drugs could affect the development of young
    minds.

    More than 200,000 preschool-aged children around the country were
    studied for the report in today's Journal of the American Medical
    Association.

    "These are substantial increases with little or no data supporting
    their use. I think that's the message that should go out," said Julie
    Magno Zito, the lead author and an assistant professor of pharmacy and
    medicine at the University of Maryland.

    The researchers suggest the increase is due to a growing acceptance of
    such drugs and because more and more children are attending day-care
    and are being pressured to conform to school standards of good
    behavior.

    Dr. Joseph Coyle of Harvard Medical School's psychiatry department said
    the study reveals a troubling trend.

    He said "there is no empirical evidence to support psychotropic drug
    treatment in very young children" -- and there are valid concerns that
    such treatment could harm brain development.

    "These disturbing prescription practices suggest a growing crisis in
    mental health services to children and demand more thorough
    investigation," Coyle wrote in a JAMA editorial.

    The authors reviewed Medicaid prescription records from 1991, 1993 and
    1995 for preschoolers from a Midwestern state and a mid-Atlantic state;
    and for those in an HMO in the Northwest. The states were not
    identified.

    Use of stimulants, anti-depressants, anti-psychotics and clonidine -- a
    drug used in adults to treat high blood pressure and increasingly for
    insomnia in hyperactive children -- were examined.

    Substantial increases were seen in every category except anti-
    psychotics, though in some cases the actual number of prescriptions was
    quite small.

    The number of children getting any of the drugs totaled about 100,000
    in 1991, and jumped to 150,000 in 1995. That year, 60 percent of the
    youngsters on drugs were age 4, 30 percent were 3 and 10 percent were 2-
    year-olds.

    The use of clonidine skyrocketed in all three groups. Although the
    numbers were small, the researchers said the clonidine increases were
    particularly remarkable because its use for attention disorders is "new
    and largely uncharted."

    They noted that slowed heart beat and fainting have been reported in
    children who use clonidine with other medications for attention
    disorders.

    Dr. David Fassler, chairman of the American Psychiatric Association's
    council on adolescents and their families, said the medications
    studied "can be extremely helpful for some children, even quite young
    children."

    However, because their effects on younger children and their
    development aren't known, Fassler said, the Food and Drug
    Administration has recently instructed pharmaceutical companies to
    study the connection.

    Jan

    The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil,
    but because of the people who don't do anything about it."
    Albert Einstein

  2. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: What Is NOT Said About Ritalin
    From: [email hidden] (Jan)
    Date: 8/17/2003 8:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id:

    Janny..

    suppose you should stop the Elavil and Neurontin...as both are being used "off
    label" in your case

    sorta like Ritalin,,its "abuse" potential..etc...

    BTW...third or more time you have posted this drivel...can't ya find some new
    drivel??

    hawki

  3. Jan said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: What Is NOT Said About Ritalin
    From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    Date: 8/17/2003 4:54 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    (Jan) said:

    ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDER- A DUBIOUS DIAGNOSIS?
    CHADD...
    (Children and Adults with Attention Deficit Disorder) Thousands of parents

    turn

    Quoted message said:

    to A.D.D. "support groups" for information and help. They expect that the
    information will be accurate, unbiased and complete. The largest of these
    support groups is CHADD, Children and Adults with Attention Deficit

    Disorder.

    Just one question for Jan - why do you hate children so much that you
    do not want to see them treated in order to improve their lives?

    An absolutely ridiculous question. *I* of all people certainly do NOT hate
    children.

    The improvement one sees doesn't last.

    Now back to the subject.

    Poor Jan, has to use a charlatan to prove her point.

  4. D. C. Sessions said:
    In said:

    The improvement one sees doesn't last.

    Awww ... the improvement one sees from exercise doesn't last
    either. Proof indeed from her Janness that exercise is bad
    for you.

    Meantime my two ADHD boys are headed back to studying physics
    at a 'highly selective' university. Of course, the benefit
    from the stimulants that they took while studying calculus
    have worn off -- but the calculus hasn't.

    And my son, who is a college junion at one of the leading schools of art
    and design works P/T for a top-notch publisher as a computer graphic
    artist and small project coordinator (with DEADLINES!) earning over
    $30.00 per hour.

    Yes, Her Janness sure does not like kids getting the help that they need.

  5. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: What Is NOT Said About Ritalin
    From: [email hidden] (Jan)
    Date: 8/17/2003 8:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id:

    Janny..

    suppose you should stop the Elavil and Neurontin...as both are being used
    "off
    label" in your case

    <snip>

    Interesting how Jan has NEVER commented on the show about the "terrible"
    practice of using Neurontin for off-label purposes. Odd, Sad, and Highly
    Predictably That.

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