Re: what am i doing wrong? more strength no mass gain

In article <[email hidden]>, "joni"

Quoted message said:

Adam B****** said:

been going to the gym for about 3 months now, and on each of
my exercises i have increased the weight by about 40-60
pounds... i seem to be getting alot stronger, but there is no
visual differences from before i went to the gym and now...
arms are still the same size with no definition....

Hard to say why without knowing what you are actually doing for a
routine at the gym and what you are eating daily. Intensity in the gym
plus eating a surplus of calories is usually two things to look at when
you think you arent meeting your goals.

Quoted message said:

i am 207cm tall, so possibly my height reduces
gain/definition, but just allows me to get stronger?

No. Definition comes from lowering your bodyfat enough to see the
muscles underneath. To gain tho, you need to tighten up your diet and
eat more. Two different goals usually not accomplished at the same
time.

When it comes to lifting, you might find this article interesting about
negatives: http://www.bodybyme.com/Body/WRA_ARTICLES/NEGATIVES.htm

I love this stuff. The guy claims it is only when you 'lower' the weight
that you build muscle.

So basically someone like Olympic lifting Hossein, who weighs in at well
over 300 lbs and can put 585 lbs to an arms length over his head - and who
rarely does eccentric movements - isn't 'building muscle'.

Makes me wonder just what is responsible for being able to get 585 lbs at
an arms length overhead.

And based on his reported lifting schedule the only exercise he does
eccentrics on are squats. Other than that pretty much everything is the
classic lifts - lift it and drop it.

Quoted message said:

And this article about stubborn bodyfat might give you a few tips:
http://skwigg.tripod.com/id46.html

<<joni>>

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:16:23 -0600, [email hidden] (Hobbes)
wrote:

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

When it comes to lifting, you might find this article interesting about
negatives: http://www.bodybyme.com/Body/WRA_ARTICLES/NEGATIVES.htm

I love this stuff. The guy claims it is only when you 'lower' the weight
that you build muscle.

So basically someone like Olympic lifting Hossein, who weighs in at well
over 300 lbs and can put 585 lbs to an arms length over his head - and who
rarely does eccentric movements - isn't 'building muscle'.

Makes me wonder just what is responsible for being able to get 585 lbs at
an arms length overhead.

And based on his reported lifting schedule the only exercise he does
eccentrics on are squats. Other than that pretty much everything is the
classic lifts - lift it and drop it.

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The other mistake Hossein Rezazadeh makes is in lifting the weight too
quickly. Everyone knows you have to take at least two seconds to lift
the weight, and four seconds to lower it. Sometimes it looks like
this guy literally jerks the weight, and that's an absolute no-no.

If he ever learns to lift correctly, he'll start making some
impressive gains. I recommend Ellington Darden's books. Darden has a
PhD, so he must know what he's talking about.

Patrick Falcon

Hobbes said:

Quoted message said:

When it comes to lifting, you might find this article interesting about
negatives: http://www.bodybyme.com/Body/WRA_ARTICLES/NEGATIVES.htm

I love this stuff. The guy claims it is only when you 'lower' the weight
that you build muscle.

So basically someone like Olympic lifting Hossein, who weighs in at well
over 300 lbs and can put 585 lbs to an arms length over his head - and who
rarely does eccentric movements - isn't 'building muscle'.

Makes me wonder just what is responsible for being able to get 585 lbs at
an arms length overhead.

And based on his reported lifting schedule the only exercise he does
eccentrics on are squats.

Well, there you go. ;-)

And of course there's the eccentric parts of the clean and jerk and
[censored], too.

Not that I buy the 'only negatives build muscle' argument. But it's
harder to disprove than one might think at first glance.

In article said:

Hobbes said:

Quoted message said:

When it comes to lifting, you might find this article interesting about
negatives: http://www.bodybyme.com/Body/WRA_ARTICLES/NEGATIVES.htm

I love this stuff. The guy claims it is only when you 'lower' the weight
that you build muscle.

So basically someone like Olympic lifting Hossein, who weighs in at well
over 300 lbs and can put 585 lbs to an arms length over his head - and who
rarely does eccentric movements - isn't 'building muscle'.

Makes me wonder just what is responsible for being able to get 585 lbs at
an arms length overhead.

And based on his reported lifting schedule the only exercise he does
eccentrics on are squats.

Well, there you go. ;-)

And of course there's the eccentric parts of the clean and jerk and
[censored], too.

What eccentrics? The catch is amortization. Unless you are referring to
lowering the bar after. Most of the young olympic lifters I see now just
drop the bar - good bumpers have changed things a lot.

Hobbes said:

In article said:

Hobbes said:

>When it comes to lifting, you might find this article interesting about
>negatives: http://www.bodybyme.com/Body/WRA_ARTICLES/NEGATIVES.htm

I love this stuff. The guy claims it is only when you 'lower' the weight
that you build muscle.

So basically someone like Olympic lifting Hossein, who weighs in at well
over 300 lbs and can put 585 lbs to an arms length over his head - and who
rarely does eccentric movements - isn't 'building muscle'.

Makes me wonder just what is responsible for being able to get 585 lbs at
an arms length overhead.

And based on his reported lifting schedule the only exercise he does
eccentrics on are squats.

Well, there you go. ;-)

And of course there's the eccentric parts of the clean and jerk and
[censored], too.

What eccentrics? The catch is amortization.

That.

In article said:

Hobbes said:

In article <[email hidden]>, T

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hobbes wrote:

>>When it comes to lifting, you might find this article interesting about
>>negatives: http://www.bodybyme.com/Body/WRA_ARTICLES/NEGATIVES.htm
>
>I love this stuff. The guy claims it is only when you 'lower' the weight
>that you build muscle.
>
>So basically someone like Olympic lifting Hossein, who weighs in at well
>over 300 lbs and can put 585 lbs to an arms length over his head - and who
>rarely does eccentric movements - isn't 'building muscle'.
>
>Makes me wonder just what is responsible for being able to get 585 lbs at
>an arms length overhead.
>
>And based on his reported lifting schedule the only exercise he does
>eccentrics on are squats.

Well, there you go. ;-)

And of course there's the eccentric parts of the clean and jerk and
[censored], too.

What eccentrics? The catch is amortization.

That.

Hokay. But for a world record holder there isn't going to be much
eccentric - it would be more static.