"Hobbes" <[email hidden]> schreef:
Quoted message said:He is doing the exercise to train hip extension and strength for the
'explosion'. For an olympic lifter that is the best way.
Quoted message said:You are training for general posterior chain strength or hypertrophy
(guess there, but I'm sure I'm not far off). You'd be better off doing
them fuller and slower.
I noticed when you *try* to move the weight as fast as possible, you have
better growth. Of course, the weight doesnt move that fast because if you
dont bounce and heavy weights, 80-85%, are used. The eccentric can be done a
little slower, not too slow. I ussualy do 8 reps within 15 seconds in the
front press. At this moment its about 12-13 seconds, and i am sure i am
stronger.
I once did an experement while on AS.
I used the exact same weights, reps and sets, but was attempting to move the
bar faster, but still under control, and with an eccentric that was close to
"normal." Perhaps a little faster. I had very good results.
I got this idea because i saw some Olympic lifters with incredible quads. A
lot of men, but also the Asian women. A lot of bodybuilders still fall into
the "move very slow, mind into muscle" trap. At this moment i train a guy
that has been doing this for over 3 years, with the majority being isolation
movements, and didnt gain one pound. I let him to 4 basic movements each
day, and told him not to worry THAT much about form. Just move that
weight...
He is into severe pain.
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Pete