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Re: Weird medical question

Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD · 2004-09-10T16:22:34+00:00

Carey Gregory wrote in message news: ... Why not ask him? He'll probably appreciate the concern. Sounds like an epileptic seizure, and the timing may be coincidental--or not. Could be, but people often have brief seizure-like activity after/during syncopal (fainting) episodes. Correct. What he described sounds exactly like what I've seen many times during syncopal episodes. Same thing happens in the initial stages of cardiac arrest, or anything else that causes inadequate perfusion of the brain. Unless he has a prior history of seizures or it happens again, I would chalk it up to a fainting episode. Would agree. The mistake the bystanders made was standing him back up. Correct. When someone faints, leave them lying where they fall until they're able to stand on their own. Merely being horizontal almost always "cures" the problem quickly since it restores adequate blood flow to the brain. However, don't forget the ABCs: Airway - make sure they have an unobstructed airway. Breathing - make sure they are breathing otherwise they will need artificial respiration. Cardiac - make sure they have a pulse otherwise they will need chest compressions. And yes, the fall itself can be dangerous. I've seen people die of the head injuries they sustained from a simple fainting episode. Yes, that is very likely what happened to Dr. Atkins although the "fainting" would have been probably from a cardiac arrest. Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew -- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ ** Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 What is all this about? http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48 Is this spam? http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867

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Original section: General fitness, health and nutrition
Published: 10 September 2004
Last activity: 12 September 2004
Original author: Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Topics: Concussion and head injury

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Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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10 September 2004, 16:22 UTC #1

Carey Gregory <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS said:
Why not ask him? He'll probably appreciate the concern.
Sounds like an epileptic seizure, and the timing may be
coincidental--or not.
Could be, but people often have brief seizure-like activity after/during
syncopal (fainting) episodes.
Correct.
Quoted message said:
What he described sounds exactly like what
I've seen many times during syncopal episodes. Same thing happens in the
initial stages of cardiac arrest, or anything else that causes inadequate
perfusion of the brain. Unless he has a prior history of seizures or it
happens again, I would chalk it up to a fainting episode.
Would agree.
Quoted message said:
The mistake the bystanders made was standing him back up.
Correct.
Quoted message said:
When someone
faints, leave them lying where they fall until they're able to stand on
their own. Merely being horizontal almost always "cures" the problem
quickly since it restores adequate blood flow to the brain.
However, don't forget the ABCs:
Airway - make sure they have an unobstructed airway.
Breathing - make sure they are breathing otherwise they will need
artificial respiration.
Cardiac - make sure they have a pulse otherwise they will need chest
compressions.
Quoted message said:
And yes, the fall itself can be dangerous. I've seen people die of the head
injuries they sustained from a simple fainting episode.
Yes, that is very likely what happened to Dr. Atkins although the
"fainting" would have been probably from a cardiac arrest.
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/
**
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
What is all this about?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48
Is this spam?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867

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Bob (this one)
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10 September 2004, 23:19 UTC #2

Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:
Carey Gregory <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
And yes, the fall itself can be dangerous. I've seen people die of the head
injuries they sustained from a simple fainting episode.
Yes, that is very likely what happened to Dr. Atkins although the
"fainting" would have been probably from a cardiac arrest.
It appears that Chung's "truth Discernment" forgot that Atkins slipped
on an icy sidewalk - or he's still trying to push that old propaganda
about Atkins. He and MU_skrat have posted some wonderfully scurrilous
"truth" about the whole situation. Right up to outright falsehoods.
Show of hands. Who's surprised...?
Bob

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Blaise DesCartes
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11 September 2004, 04:45 UTC #3

Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
person in the universe,
|
<snip mindless cross-posted babble)
| Andrew
The answer is obvious: He is very insecure for some reason, and feels a
need to make a lot of noise. Like a child creating a loud distrurbance to
get attention. Or maybe he has a small penis and this is how he feels good
about himself, by crossposting unwanted messages to support newsgroups.
Either way, he is very, very sad.

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Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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11 September 2004, 13:32 UTC #4

Blaise DesCartes said:

Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
person in the universe,
|
<snip mindless cross-posted babble)
| Andrew
The answer is obvious: He is very insecure for some reason, and feels a
need to make a lot of noise. Like a child creating a loud distrurbance to
get attention. Or maybe he has a small penis and this is how he feels good
about himself, by crossposting unwanted messages to support newsgroups.
Either way, he is very, very sad.
Sorry my being openly Christian bothers you.
You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love.
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/
**
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
What is all this about?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48
Is this spam?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867

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Blaise DesCartes
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11 September 2004, 19:26 UTC #5

Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
| Sorry my being openly Christian bothers you.
| Andrew
Your being Christian bothers me not in the least; I am a Christian. What
bothers me is that you turn so many people against that wh ich you believe
with your pretentiousness and deliberate annoying ways.
The Apostle Matthew wrote about people who profess Christ yet glorify their
own works.
Take Heed, Andrew.
MAT 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not
prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy
name done many wonderful works?
MAT 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from
me, ye that work iniquity.
Think about these Scriptures next time that you crosspost a message in order
to glorify yourself.

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Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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12 September 2004, 05:54 UTC #6

Mozz said:

He makes a very good point Andrew.
Not really, Mozz.
Quoted message said:
Take heed indeed.
Those who say they are Christian but who choose not to walk with Him
should take heed that they not using His name to glorify themselves.
Quoted message said:
Respectfully,
Mozz x
You remain in my prayers, dear Mozz whom I love.
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/
**
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
What is all this about?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48
Is this spam?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867

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Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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12 September 2004, 05:54 UTC #7

Blaise DesCartes said:

Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
| Sorry my being openly Christian bothers you.
| Andrew
Your being Christian bothers me not in the least;
I discern something else.
Quoted message said:
I am a Christian.
I discern something else.
Quoted message said:
What
bothers me is that you turn so many people against that wh ich you believe
with your pretentiousness and deliberate annoying ways.
Sorry my choice to be *bold* about Christ bothers you.
Quoted message said:
The Apostle Matthew wrote about people who profess Christ yet glorify their
own works.
Yes, he did.
Quoted message said:
Take Heed, Andrew.
Christ knows what is in my heart. He also knows what is in *your*
heart.
Quoted message said:
MAT 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not
prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy
name done many wonderful works?
MAT 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from
me, ye that work iniquity.
It remains my choice to walk with Christ whom I love with all of my
heart, soul, and mind.
Quoted message said:
Think about these Scriptures next time that you crosspost a message in order
to glorify yourself.
All that I do or write is by His command and for His glory.
You remain in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love.
May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the unimaginable riches of His
everlasting kingdom.
Please consider the following to guide you:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/
**
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
What is all this about?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48
Is this spam?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867

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Bob (this one)
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12 September 2004, 06:22 UTC #8

Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:
Those who say they are Christian but who choose not to walk with Him
should take heed that they not using His name to glorify themselves.
Um, yes. That's true.
And those that seek to diminish others by claiming superior and
infallible religious knowledge as Chung does are not walking with him.
Bob

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