Re: Ulock Justice.

Steve Firth said:

You have just proved every accusation that has been made against
you and your propensity to support violent extremism.

He quoted a song lyric. Your standards of proof are obviously somewhat
different from mine.

--
Dave...

dkahn400 ([email hidden]) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

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You have just proved every accusation that has been made against
you and your propensity to support violent extremism.

Quoted message said:

He quoted a song lyric. Your standards of proof are obviously somewhat
different from mine.

And if he'd posted a violently racist or misogynistic lyric in the same
context, how would that affect your perception of his character?

Bear in mind that on uk.transport, Duhg has spent the last week or two
denying vigorously that there is a double standard in his support of people
who take the law into their own hands in certain circumstances while
vehemently condemning those who infringe the law in other circumstances.

dkahn400 said:

Steve Firth said:

You have just proved every accusation that has been made against
you and your propensity to support violent extremism.

He quoted a song lyric. Your standards of proof are obviously somewhat
different from mine.

And in the bit you snipped? Would be as supportive if he had "quoted" a
racist song, or a pro-terrorist song? Why is it permissible to "quote" a
song which advoicates violent, extreme behaviour in the context of
cycling?

--
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759

Steve Firth said:

dkahn400 said:

Steve Firth said:

You have just proved every accusation that has been made
against you and your propensity to support violent extremism.

He quoted a song lyric. Your standards of proof are obviously
somewhat different from mine.

And in the bit you snipped? Would be as supportive if he
had "quoted" a racist song, or a pro-terrorist song?

I wouldn't have said it constituted proof he was a racist or a
terrorist.

Quoted message said:

Why is it permissible to "quote" a song which advoicates violent,
extreme behaviour in the context of cycling?

We still have a certain degree of freedom of speech in Britain.
For the moment anyway.

--
Dave...

dkahn400 ([email hidden]) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

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And in the bit you snipped? Would be as supportive if he
had "quoted" a racist song, or a pro-terrorist song?

Quoted message said:

I wouldn't have said it constituted proof he was a racist or a
terrorist.

Same as this doesn't prove that Duhg actually is an idiot yob who injures
people and damages property.

But it's certainly fairly solid circumstantial evidence that he shares the
sentiment.

dkahn400 said:

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And in the bit you snipped? Would be as supportive if he
had "quoted" a racist song, or a pro-terrorist song?

I wouldn't have said it constituted proof he was a racist or a
terrorist.

It is the final nail in his coffin, he has a track record of advocating
violence, then of denying that was his intent. This is a clear cut
example of him posting hate-filled lyrics.

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Why is it permissible to "quote" a song which advoicates violent,
extreme behaviour in the context of cycling?

We still have a certain degree of freedom of speech in Britain.
For the moment anyway.

You have freedom of speech, you do not have license to incite violence
or racial hatred.

But thanks for proving, yet again, the bizarre mindset of those who
subscribe to wreck.cycling. Would you care to pass onto the usual sorry
end of posts from that cesspit by descending to "tu quoque"? Because in
general the faster we get there, the earlier I can dismiss your opinion
as worthless.

--
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759

Steve Firth said:

dkahn400 <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

We still have a certain degree of freedom of speech in Britain.
For the moment anyway.

You have freedom of speech, you do not have license to incite
violence or racial hatred.

But thanks for proving, yet again, the bizarre mindset of those who
subscribe to wreck.cycling. Would you care to pass onto the usual
sorry end of posts from that cesspit by descending to "tu quoque"?
Because in general the faster we get there, the earlier I can
dismiss your opinion as worthless.

Please do so immediately, as I already have yours.

--
Dave...

dkahn400 ([email hidden]) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

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Because in general the faster we get there, the earlier I can
dismiss your opinion as worthless.

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Please do so immediately, as I already have yours.

Can we just proceed straight to the point at which everybody starts
shouting at each other and calling each other names? It's *FAR* more fun.

Adrian said:

And if he'd posted a violently racist or misogynistic lyric in the same
context, how would that affect your perception of his character?

No rap lyrics allowed here then?

--
Tony

"I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
Anon

dkahn400 said:

Steve Firth said:

dkahn400 said:

Steve Firth wrote:

> You have just proved every accusation that has been made
> against you and your propensity to support violent extremism.

He quoted a song lyric. Your standards of proof are obviously
somewhat different from mine.

And in the bit you snipped? Would be as supportive if he
had "quoted" a racist song, or a pro-terrorist song?

I wouldn't have said it constituted proof he was a racist or a
terrorist.

Quoted message said:

Why is it permissible to "quote" a song which advoicates violent,
extreme behaviour in the context of cycling?

We still have a certain degree of freedom of speech in Britain.
For the moment anyway.

Don't count on it!

--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
The only opposition is on the streets.

Steve Firth said:

iiiiDougiiii said:

BTW, don't blame me I am only the messenger.

You are of course to blame. You chose to reproduce a violent and hateful
lyric. You doubt that you are to blame? What if the lyric you had posted
promoted racism, woudl you still feel that you were not to blame? Woudl
you take that line with the police officers sent to arrest you?

You have just proved every accusation that has been made against you and
your propensity to support violent extremism.

Oh so now, according to you, it is an arrestable offence to textually
reproduce song lyrics. What a dark and menacing world you must inhabit.
Glad I am not there.

--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
The only opposition is on the streets.

iiiiDougiiii said:

Steve Firth said:

iiiiDougiiii said:

BTW, don't blame me I am only the messenger.

You are of course to blame. You chose to reproduce a violent and hateful
lyric. You doubt that you are to blame? What if the lyric you had posted
promoted racism, woudl you still feel that you were not to blame? Woudl
you take that line with the police officers sent to arrest you?

You have just proved every accusation that has been made against you and
your propensity to support violent extremism.

Oh so now, according to you, it is an arrestable offence to textually
reproduce song lyrics. What a dark and menacing world you must inhabit.
Glad I am not there.

Don't be nasty to him.

It can't be much fun going aroung being afraid of your own shadow.

iiiiDougiiii said:

Oh so now, according to you, it is an arrestable offence to textually
reproduce song lyrics. What a dark and menacing world you must inhabit.
Glad I am not there.

No, I didn't say that. Incitement to violence is however a criminal
offence.

--
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759

(Steve Firth) said:

iiiiDougiiii said:

Oh so now, according to you, it is an arrestable offence to textually
reproduce song lyrics. What a dark and menacing world you must inhabit.
Glad I am not there.

No, I didn't say that. Incitement to violence is however a criminal
offence.

Well, if you believe that what doug did was incitement to violence, why do you
not report it to the boys in blue.

You can't possible look a bigger idiot than you do already, and at least it will
give them a good laugh.

(I seriously doubt that you'd be charged with wasting police time).

Steven ([email hidden]) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

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Incitement to violence is however a criminal offence.

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Well, if you believe that what doug did was incitement to violence,
why do you not report it to the boys in blue.

Because we apparently don't know who he really is.

He swears blind he isn't Douglas Bollen, currently or previously residing
at 119a Culverley Road, Catford, SE6 2JZ.

(Steve Firth) said:

Steven said:

(Steve Firth) said:

iiiiDougiiii <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Oh so now, according to you, it is an arrestable offence to textually
> reproduce song lyrics. What a dark and menacing world you must inhabit.
> Glad I am not there.

No, I didn't say that. Incitement to violence is however a criminal
offence.

Well, if you believe that what doug did was incitement to violence,

There's no need for "belief", what he did was publish an incitement to
commit acts of violence.

Only to a moron.

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why do you not report it to the boys in blue.

Do you ever get off telling other people what to do?

Just asking a question (yes, lamer, I know I didn't put a question mark at the
end, but anyone with an I.Q. bigger than their shoe size would have sussed that
by the 'hy' at the front. If you're so wconcerned that such a heinous crime has
been commited, I would have thought it was your duty to report it.

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You can't possible look a bigger idiot than you do already, and at least
it will give them a good laugh.

(I seriously doubt that you'd be charged with wasting police time).

Did you have a point?

Yes, that you are so hard of thinking that you can't understand black humour,
irony, or even what constitutes a question unless there is a little squiggly
mark at the end.

Adrian said:

Steven ([email hidden]) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

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Quoted message said:

Incitement to violence is however a criminal offence.

Quoted message said:

Well, if you believe that what doug did was incitement to violence,
why do you not report it to the boys in blue.

Because we apparently don't know who he really is.

He swears blind he isn't Douglas Bollen, currently or previously residing
at 119a Culverley Road, Catford, SE6 2JZ.

I know him. He's OK.

--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
The only opposition is on the streets.

iiiiDougiiii said:

Adrian said:

Steven ([email hidden]) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

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>Incitement to violence is however a criminal offence.

Quoted message said:

Well, if you believe that what doug did was incitement to violence,
why do you not report it to the boys in blue.

Because we apparently don't know who he really is.

He swears blind he isn't Douglas Bollen, currently or previously residing
at 119a Culverley Road, Catford, SE6 2JZ.

I know him. He's OK.

But you would say that.

Steven said:

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:19:40 +0100, [email hidden] (Steve Firth)

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Steven said:

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:25:32 +0100, [email hidden] (Steve Firth)
wrote:

>iiiiDougiiii <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>> Oh so now, according to you, it is an arrestable offence to textually
>> reproduce song lyrics. What a dark and menacing world you must inhabit.
>> Glad I am not there.
>
>No, I didn't say that. Incitement to violence is however a criminal
>offence.

Well, if you believe that what doug did was incitement to violence,

There's no need for "belief", what he did was publish an incitement to
commit acts of violence.

Only to a moron.

Naturally, it's only morons or "cyclists" as they appear to wish to be
known that would commit such an act.

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

why do you not report it to the boys in blue.

Do you ever get off telling other people what to do?

Just asking a question (yes, lamer, I know I didn't put a question mark at
the end, but anyone with an I.Q. bigger than their shoe size would have
sussed that by the 'hy' at the front. If you're so wconcerned that such a
heinous crime has been commited, I would have thought it was your duty to
report it.

I'm sorry I don't recognise the word "hy" are you using a different
dictionary to the rest of us? And you still appear to be trying to tell
me what to do.

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You can't possible look a bigger idiot than you do already, and at
least it will give them a good laugh.

(I seriously doubt that you'd be charged with wasting police time).

Did you have a point?

Yes, that you are so hard of thinking that you can't understand black
humour, irony, or even what constitutes a question unless there is a
little squiggly mark at the end.

No, I said "Did you have a point?" not "blether away with some typical
cyclist ad hominem."

--
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759