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  1. amit.ghosh writes

    Quoted message said:

    i don't think this concept (franchising) is as unusual as
    you think, but rather cycling is unusual.

    Well said.

    I don't want to spin this thread into another OT- nascar rant/rave
    however there are examples (other than pro ball sports) of where other
    types pro racing is heading.

    Currently NASCAR has _all_ of the power and they plan on keeping it
    through franchising.

    On the other hand, last fall the American Motorcycling Association
    announced they were getting out of the race promotion business and
    emphasizing their strengths, the administration of rules and governing.
    The AMA has decided a piece of the action is rather than no action at
    all.

    The UCI should become the worlds bicycle advocacy authority. It's
    time for pro cycling and all of it's enities to grow up and become a
    business. Drop the drama, raise the ROI. Just my POV.

    Best Regards -Mike Baldwin

  2. (Michael Baldwin) said:

    The UCI should become the worlds bicycle advocacy authority. It's
    time for pro cycling and all of it's enities to grow up and become a
    business.

    dumbass,

    or it can be the governing body of the sport, like FIBA is, but not be
    a stakeholder in the professional league. There's still all the non-
    pro cats, track, cross, mtb., the worlds, the olympics etc. to
    govern.

    The pro and amateur sides of the sport exist for two totally different
    reasons(business vs. personal development), and in cycling we see the
    two clash all the time.

  3. Quoted message said:

    On Feb 29, 12:27 am, [email hidden] (Michael Baldwin) wrote:
       The UCI should become the worlds bicycle advocacy


    authority. It's

    Quoted message said:

    time for pro cycling and all of it's entities to
    grow up and become a business.

    dumbass,
    or it can be the governing body of the sport,
    like FIBA is, but not be a stakeholder in the
    professional league. There's still all the non- pro cats, track,
    cross, mtb., the worlds, the olympics etc. to govern.
    The pro and amateur sides of the sport exist for
    two totally different reasons(business vs. personal development), and


    in cycling

    Quoted message said:

    we see the two clash all the time.

    ...ah, ya...I thought that was my point in stating the AMA's recent
    change in business philosophy. Basically the AMA is saying to _all_
    promoters, "your series, our rules, let's go racing!"
    As far as "pro and amateur sides of the sport exist for two totally
    different reasons", well that mindset needs to be exposed for what it
    is, bunk!
    Obviously cycling, unlike ball sports, has the added component of a
    _vehicle_. The sooner bike manufacturers _embrace_ the motorsport
    adage "win on Sunday, sell on Monday" the better the sport will be for
    everyone, amateur and pro alike.
    This ain't rocket surgery. Drop the drugs, doping and drama and
    support bicycle advocacy.

    Best Regards - Mike Baldwin

  4. Quoted message said:

    The UCI should become the worlds bicycle advocacy authority.

    Advocating what? Cycling in general, or specifically racing? And where does
    the funding come from?

    A curious thought. How much of the UCI's perceived (current) need is based
    upon establishing & implementing anti-doping measures?

    --Mike Jacoubowsky
    Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReaction.com
    Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

    "Michael Baldwin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    amit.ghosh writes

    Quoted message said:

    i don't think this concept (franchising) is as unusual as
    you think, but rather cycling is unusual.

    Well said.

    I don't want to spin this thread into another OT- nascar rant/rave
    however there are examples (other than pro ball sports) of where other
    types pro racing is heading.

    Currently NASCAR has _all_ of the power and they plan on keeping it
    through franchising.

    On the other hand, last fall the American Motorcycling Association
    announced they were getting out of the race promotion business and
    emphasizing their strengths, the administration of rules and governing.
    The AMA has decided a piece of the action is rather than no action at
    all.

    The UCI should become the worlds bicycle advocacy authority. It's
    time for pro cycling and all of it's enities to grow up and become a
    business. Drop the drama, raise the ROI. Just my POV.

    Best Regards -Mike Baldwin

  5. Quoted message said:

    or it can be the governing body of the sport, like FIBA is, but not be a
    stakeholder in the professional league. There's still all the non- pro
    cats, track, cross, mtb., the worlds, the olympics etc. to govern.

    So now us fattie masters end up being stuck with paddy and co.

  6. Quoted message said:

    Mike Baldwin proclaimed;
    The UCI should become the worlds bicycle advocacy authority.

    And Mike Jacoubowsky asked;
    Advocating what? Cycling in general, or specifically racing? And where
    does the funding come from?
    A curious thought. How much of the UCI's perceived (current)
    need is based upon establishing & implementing anti-doping measures?
    --Mike Jacoubowsky

    MB replying to MJ

    Actually UCI is to internally dysfunctional to "become" anything more
    than it has become.

    Again I'll point to the AMA (motorcycles). An established 80+ year old
    non-profit entity funded primarily by its membership (250000+) and the
    motorcycle industry in general.

    Overall cycling needs a single voice on multiple fronts. That's what I
    mean when I reference "advocacy / advocate".

    As far as UCI and its role in establishing anti-doping measures that's
    like having a self proclaimed "reformed" fox guarding the hen house.
    I'm sure we'll have chickens in the morning but where did all the eggs
    go?

    Best Regards - Mike Baldwin

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