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  1. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Mr-Natural-Health said:


    Training to fatigue with multiple sets is more effective than training
    to failure on one set.

    And we are still waiting to see how effective it's been for you. Where
    is that pic toothless one? That you give health and nutrition advice on
    sci (or lack there of) med.nutrition is sad. That you attempt to give
    bodybuilding advice on mfw is hilarious!

    --
    Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

  2. WillBrink said:

    And we are still waiting to see how effective it's been for you.

    How effective depends on what you are trying to accomplish. Not
    everybody is trying to look like a muscle bounded freak!

    I saw some recent photos of Arnold Swarchenegger last night. That guy
    now looks like the adverage fat slob who has never worked out in their
    entire life, with absolutely no muscle definition. 🙁

    Arnold Swarchenegger's image is all [censored].

    And, you if you actually bothered to check out bodybuilding
    definitions:

    Failure = Fatigue

    Just thought that you might want to know, [censored] Brain.

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Mr-Natural-Health said:
    WillBrink said:

    And we are still waiting to see how effective it's been for you.

    How effective depends on what you are trying to accomplish. Not
    everybody is trying to look like a muscle bounded freak!

    I saw some recent photos of Arnold Swarchenegger last night. That guy
    now looks like the adverage fat slob who has never worked out in their
    entire life, with absolutely no muscle definition. 🙁

    Arnold Swarchenegger's image is all [censored].

    And, you if you actually bothered to check out bodybuilding
    definitions:

    Failure = Fatigue

    While failure may be caused by local muscle fatique, failure and fatique
    are not identical terms or equivilant. So while I'll stay out of the flame
    war I'm really not sure what you are getting at here.

    Also, while I'm not a bodybuilder and don't really care much Arnold S.
    accomplishments in the field are well documented, both by photography and
    by awards.

    --
    Keith

  4. WillBrink said:
    Quoted message said:

    I saw some recent photos of Arnold Swarchenegger last night. That guy
    now looks like the adverage fat slob who has never worked out in their
    entire life, with absolutely no muscle definition. 🙁

    I saw Arnold in person a few months ago, as I do every year, and he
    looked great for his age.

    Quoted message said:

    Arnold Swarchenegger's image is all [censored].

    I don't know when or where the pictures were taken, but Arnold
    Swarchenegger was at a beach in swiming trunks. And, he was clearly
    totally out of shape. 🙁

    It appears that Arnold maintains his bodybuilding image by wearing
    clothes.

    Ha, ... Hah, Ha! At some point in his recent life, Arnold clearly lost
    his bodybuilding physique.

    Perhaps, Arnold engages in yo yo bodybuilding?

  5. Hobbes said:

    I'm really not sure what you are getting at here.

    What I am trying to do is:
    #1:Ignore Mr. Numb Nuts comments.
    #2😄evelop a new workout routine that makes sense for my objectives.

    Quoted message said:

    From my research: Only relatively intense and long duration


    (exhaustive) exercise induced hyperplasia. Prolonged training or
    exercise consisting of relatively intense and long duration (wholly
    exhaustive) regimens induce muscle hypertrophy following hyperplasia.
    The ideal workout should produce muscle fiber damage.

    "Training regimens inducing hyperplasia consist of repeated bouts and
    provide sufficient recovery time under normal physiological conditions.
    ... It is also speculated that these recovery phases may contribute to
    the hyperplasia. A resting state under normal physiological conditions
    is required for better adaptation of the muscle."

    I need to "use a moderately high load and relatively high number of
    repetitions, and certain muscle groups are exercised separately. This
    exercise is usually followed by or combined with two or more additional
    exercises which activate the same muscle group, interspersed with short
    resting times. Furthermore, as many as 16-20 consecutive sets
    stressing a certain muscle might be executed within 30-40 minutes to
    achieve the state termed 'muscle pumping up'. This system is
    exhaustive for the muscle."

    Therefore, I will need to implement exercising different muscle groups
    on different days once a week allowing for at least 5 days to recover.
    Use more sets, than I have been used to. Use complex exercises, perhaps
    followed by isolation exercises. While, cutting my total workout time
    to below one hour. And, rather than implementing muscle confusion by
    varying the exercise routine, I will simply periodically stop
    bodybuilding in a technique HST calls Strategic Deconditioning.

    This will reduce the total time that I spend exercising while still
    promoting both hyperplasia and hypertrophy. I want to simply maintain a
    normal amount of muscle mass of a 50 year old as I progress into my
    70's, 80's and 90's. I don't want super big muscles, now or anytime in
    the future.

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Mr-Natural-Health said:
    WillBrink said:
    Quoted message said:

    I saw some recent photos of Arnold Swarchenegger last night. That guy
    now looks like the adverage fat slob who has never worked out in their
    entire life, with absolutely no muscle definition. 🙁

    I saw Arnold in person a few months ago, as I do every year, and he
    looked great for his age.

    Quoted message said:

    Arnold Swarchenegger's image is all [censored].

    I don't know when or where the pictures were taken, but Arnold
    Swarchenegger was at a beach in swiming trunks. And, he was clearly
    totally out of shape. 🙁

    Everyone saw the picture, and no, it was not flattering to him I agree.
    How does that = his image is [censored]?

    Quoted message said:


    It appears that Arnold maintains his bodybuilding image by wearing
    clothes.

    Ha, ... Hah, Ha! At some point in his recent life, Arnold clearly lost
    his bodybuilding physique.

    News flash: Everyone loses their bodybuilding physique.

    Quoted message said:


    Perhaps, Arnold engages in yo yo bodybuilding?

    I'm sure Arnold wishes oh so much he could exchange his physique and
    life for yours.

    Quoted message said:

    --
    Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

  7. WillBrink said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Arnold Swarchenegger's image is all [censored].



    Everyone saw the picture, and no, it was not flattering to him I agree.
    How does that = his image is [censored]?

    Perhaps, if you were to focus on the pictures that show Arnold as a fat
    bum?

    Quoted message said:

    I'm sure Arnold wishes oh so much he could exchange his physique and
    life for yours.

    You truly do work hard at being a [censored] Brain, Mr. Numb Nuts. I suppose
    it comes naturally, when you are nothing but a [censored] Head? 🙁

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Mr-Natural-Health said:
    WillBrink said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > Arnold Swarchenegger's image is all [censored].


    Everyone saw the picture, and no, it was not flattering to him I agree.
    How does that = his image is [censored]?

    Perhaps, if you were to focus on the pictures that show Arnold as a fat
    bum?

    He looked nothing like a fat bum. Still waiting for that picture of
    yours showing you to look so much better then Arnold or anyone else.

    --
    Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

  9. WillBrink said:

    He looked nothing like a fat bum. Still waiting for that picture of
    yours showing you to look so much better then Arnold or anyone else.

    Sorry, but I don't want to be held responsible for your suicide. 🙁

    I will gladly, post my picture in 20 years when I am 75 still looking
    like my present age of 55 with thick legs. 🙂

  10. "WillBrink" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden].

    Quoted message said:


    I'm sure Arnold wishes oh so much he could exchange his physique and
    life for yours.

    I reckon he does! I mean, who wouldn't want to be in Gohde's shoes? Look,
    for example, what he posted a while back (Google may be your friend, but it
    sure as hell ain't Gohde's...!). What a paragon of physical and mental
    perfection he is! No wonder he just can't stop lecturing other people on how
    they, too, can reach such peaks...!

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    "[censored] Wouters" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    JEDilworth wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    ... You're entirely more uneducated
    than I suspected at first.


    <snip>
    Understatement of the decade ;-)
    Cheers, [censored]

    Actually, Dilworth and the other academics just get their jollies stomping
    on the physically handicapped.

    I happen to be a physically handicapped individual.

    I have been documented to have physical brain damage and slight CP.

    I have been documented to have a physically abnormal brain.

    I have an obvious speech impediment, among other physical problems, due to
    my physical brain damage. The right corner of my mouth is also physically
    paralyzed.

    My physical handicap has existed since birth. My brain is wired differently
    from other people. English as a result has always been my weakest subject.
    But, that did not prevent me from succeeding academically in both French and
    German at college.

    Like many other people, I do have trouble in the language department due to
    my physical handicap. But, I have largely over come my language problems
    except for the occasional A-Hole on these ngs.

    It is always amazing to me how the supposedly so intelligent can be so
    profoundly stupid! As long as I am still breathing, I will be posting and
    expanding my website, grammar and spelling errors or no. :-)

    I make no apologizes for being born screwed and having to constantly deal
    with A-Holes like you people.

    I bet scum like you also go around kicking cripples too?
    --
    John Gohde,
    Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a Science!

    The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is the foundation of the biomedical
    model of natural health. Weighing in at 17 webpages, Nutrition
    (www.Food.NaturalHealthPerspect­ive.com/) is now with more documentation and
    sharper terminology than ever before.

    -----

    Katt.

  11. Katt said:

    I reckon he does! I mean, who wouldn't want to be in Gohde's shoes? Look,
    for example, what he posted a while back (Google may be your friend, but it
    sure as hell ain't Gohde's...!).

    Hello [censored] Brain,

    What makes you think that nobody on this planet knows how to look up
    old posts besides you? Ha, ... Hah, Ha! Boy are you stupid.

    Yes, I have over 5,000 posts out there in Google land.

    That still doesn't change the fact that MFW consists mostly of Penis
    Brains and assorted perverts who don't know [censored] about about anything,
    let alone bodybuilding.

    You guys couldn't write clearly about bodybuilding if your life
    depended on it. You write total [censored].

    Just thought that you might want to know. 🙂

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Katt said:


    I have been documented to have physical brain damage and slight CP.
    I have been documented to have a physically abnormal brain.

    Shocking...not.

    --
    Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

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