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  1. phlegm said:

    I think it depends a lot on the terrain. I think very hilly terrain
    actually favors a fixed gear with shorter cranks over a long crank
    Schlumpf setup. The reason is that there's quite a gap in gearing
    between 1:1 and 1.5:1. So, with a geared hub, you end up gearing down
    on really steep sections and spinning a lower cadence than the fixed
    gear. Plus, there's the added complexity and time of shifting and
    transitioning to the new gear.

    On long flat stretches of road, though, there's no doubt in my mind
    that geared up is faster than fixed.

    My thoughts exactly. Didn't see your post

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  2. Wow! That's a lot to take in. And people wonder why we have so many
    unicycles 🙂

    I guess as more people ride geared 36"ers, there will be much more
    information.

    I guess for a point-to-point 2000km ride, a geared 36" looks to be a
    good choice. Climbing can be done on the smaller gear. From watching
    other unicyclists, some have a natural faster cadence and some do not.
    I figure I go as fast on 125mm cranks when compared to the 110s (unless
    I concentrate harder on spinning faster). So, the opposing views on
    crank lengths do make sense.

    And for a general multi-purpose tour (city, offroad, road, hills etc),
    a geared 29" offers more versatility. Gunis are definitely the future
    as they just give you more options.

    Thanks for the input. And thanks for the thoughts on unsupported
    touring too (ya carrying 4kgs is defintely better and more fun than
    20kgs).

    More research and more questions to come... 😉

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  3. I'm glad that a consensus seems to be forming; that a 1:1 gear ratio (I
    prefer to call it direct-drive) is what works on hills. I've found that
    even with long cranks on my gunis, that the effect of an upslope or
    downslope is magnified with an overdrive, as opposed to shorter cranks
    on a direct drive.

    If the terrain is fairly even, though, gunis rule. The few great riders
    who can maintain high cadences on a direct-drive to get their speed may
    or may not want to get the same speed with lower their cadences on a
    guni. But I do. And I thnk most riders would. It's not so much
    important to exceed 20mph, as it is to have a more comfortable and
    sustainable cruise at 15.

    So when a hill arrives, the solution is to kick it down into direct
    drive!

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  4. _My_dream_touring_unicycle_
    I can't wait to join the world of GUNI! Here are the specs of the my
    new 36er:
    (Sorry to pete that I didn't but the Florian Green...at $1500 it is an
    amazing deal)
    _Wheel_set_
    - Nimbus stealth pro rim
    -14 g stainless spokes
    -KH/Schlumpf hub
    -Nightrider tire
    _Cranks_
    -Lightweight Qu-Ax ISIS cranks (165s to start with)
    -Wellgo M1 pedals
    _Frame_
    -Triton Sponge Titanium 36er w/ magura bosses (6-8 weeks!😄 )
    _Seat_
    -Custom Wallis design carbon fiber base dual foam core seat (when Scott
    can get to it🙂 )
    -Thompson seat post
    -KH handle (all I've ever used, light and what I like)
    _Brakes_ (if I find them necessary)
    Magura HS33 (I thought about a drag set-up but I've been convinced that
    this is the way I should go)

    My favored style of riding is mountain steeps and fast descents. I'm
    trying to keep it as light as possible for climbing but with that extra
    GUNI kick. I also commute 20 miles round trip to work, this hopefully
    I'll cut my communting time some. Shame I can't make the lobster but
    I'll post pics.

    So far I've collected the wheelset. Everything else is on order. I
    hope this comes together sooner than later so I can stop obsessing and
    start riding.

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  5. Hi osmundo- that sounds like a really nice set up. I am just wondering
    why you are not going to use a handle like the T7 or similar set up? I
    have found the t7 to be a really important addition to my 36r. It gives
    me much more stability for fast riding (something you are sure to be
    doing in overdrive), comfort and confidence when climbing hills. I have
    heard mixed opinions about the brake options as well- some riders
    change back from magura's to caliper because of the feel of it- and
    didn't someone comment about the quality of the braking surface on the
    stealth pro rims? might effect your decision if you find it.
    Anywho, hope it all goes really well. I am looking forward to see what
    a triton 36r looks like as well so post pics asap!
    mark

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  6. napalm said:

    Hi osmundo- that sounds like a really nice set up. I am just wondering
    why you are not going to use a handle like the T7 or similar set up?
    mark

    I just like the KH handle. I have gotten to where I ride with both
    hands on for both asents and descents. I use it to shift my weight and
    I feel plenty stable. I don't feel I need a larger, weightier handle.
    Perhaps someday I will change my mind, but so far I like just the KH.

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  7. napalm said:

    Hi osmundo- that sounds like a really nice set up. I am just wondering
    why you are not going to use a handle like the T7 or similar set up? I
    have found the t7 to be a really important addition to my 36r. It gives
    me much more stability for fast riding (something you are sure to be
    doing in overdrive), comfort and confidence when climbing hills.

    I dunno about the T7 handle. I just took mine off, and I don't really
    find much difference (except that the unicycle is *way* lighter than
    with a t7). There are only two things that annoy me, the first is that
    the T7 looks more cool, the second is that I don't really have a handy
    place to put a bell.

    unisk8r said:

    I'm glad that a consensus seems to be forming; that a 1:1 gear ratio (I
    prefer to call it direct-drive) is what works on hills. I've found that
    even with long cranks on my gunis, that the effect of an upslope or
    downslope is magnified with an overdrive, as opposed to shorter cranks
    on a direct drive.

    I think the high gear ratios we're using are mostly so high, that it's
    hard to say whether this is an effect of the mechanism of gearing, or
    just because it's a high gear though. Even on my 29er with 125s, the
    high gear is equivalent in leverage to 100mm cranks on a 36. And on the
    36" with 165s we're still talking 105mm crank equivalent leverage,
    which is pretty short for hilly areas.

    Joe

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