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titanium all the way. The KH frame is pretty much the best an alu frame
can be. (Well, the weld could be stronger I guess, but hes good at
replacing that. Shapewise and lightwise it is perfect.).


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peleschramm wrote:
> titanium all the way. The KH frame is pretty much the best an alu frame
> can be. (Well, the weld could be stronger I guess, but hes good at
> replacing that. Shapewise and lightwise it is perfect.).



Yeah but what about price wise? You really like paying that much for an
aluminum frame?


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The UniSLAB wrote:
> Yeah but what about price wise? You really like paying that much for an
> aluminum frame?


hmm... hmm...

I got mine as a birthday present... I guess I didn't really think about
that. I guess cheaper would be better.


By the way, do NOT make a frame with the shape of a nimbusII or a Koxx
Devil. Those tear up pantlegs like no other.


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peleschramm wrote:
> hmm... hmm...
>
> I got mine as a birthday present... I guess I didn't really think about
> that. I guess cheaper would be better.
>
>
> By the way, do NOT make a frame with the shape of a nimbusII or a Koxx
> Devil. Those tear up pantlegs like no other.



Haha yeah, well I don't have a problem with my devil frame, but then
again I don't do flatland.

Anyways I'm thinking we will offer 2 different 20" frames. A trials
oriented one, and a flatland oriented one. Yay or nay?


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The UniSLAB wrote:
> Haha yeah, well I don't have a problem with my devil frame, but then
> again I don't do flatland.
>
> Anyways I'm thinking we will offer 2 different 20" frames. A trials
> oriented one, and a flatland oriented one. Yay or nay?


I don't do flatland on mine (that's what freestyle uni's are for ;))
they should both be strong enough to hold up to extremely agressive
riding though. (flatland is actually one of the most aggresive things
you can put a frame through.)


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peleschramm wrote:
> I don't do flatland on mine (that's what freestyle uni's are for ;))
> they should both be strong enough to hold up to extremely agressive
> riding though. (flatland is actually one of the most aggresive things
> you can put a frame through.)



Yeah my bad.

I know how terrible freestyle riding is for a frame, so that's why I'm
going to be looking into the frames that seem to hold up the best and
use that type of design as an option.

I really need some input from great riders like yourself to make this
thing work. I also need some people who know a thing or two about
designing something like this.

Help is definatley what's up in this thread


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The UniSLAB wrote:
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> I know how terrible freestyle riding is for a frame,


not freestyle. Flat. Freestyle is fine for a frame. Flatland is deadly.
You bend the frame and put weight on it in weird positions with
flatland, not freestyle.


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peleschramm wrote:
> not freestyle. Flat. Freestyle is fine for a frame. Flatland is deadly.
> You bend the frame and put weight on it in weird positions with
> flatland, not freestyle.



Wow sorry bout that, totally did not mean to say freestyle.

Anyways, you knew what I meant so I'll just leave it at that. I'm tired
and obviously can't think straight so I'm out. Thanks again for the
input on this


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Why not build a prototype of each frame, and see what people want? I
know it will be a lot to do, but to build one, and have it out there
for people to see and try, may be the best way to get the word out.

I don't know if Triton is still making Ti frames. Last I heard it was
on hold. But for me, a 29er Ti frame would be awesome. That would be
the start to my ultimate cruiser.

As far as design, I liked the Sponge design, as well as the KH. I think
either one you really couldn't go wrong. I tend to like a little curve
going into a flat edge at teh top. I will draw up a design and post it
here to show you what i mean.


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I think your best bet is to just come up with a crown design and figure
out how you will do bearing caps, once you have that then its not hard
for people to customize from there.

If you keep on asking people's opinions it will slow down the process a
lot.

Personally I love the sponge frame, even for flat or freestyle, people
think that the crown is too sloped but most of those people haven't
ridden it. It actually has a bit of a lip so when you put your foot up
there it is flat similar to a nimbus/yuni/bedford frame, but since it
is rounded it doesn't hit the knees like those frames do.


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yeah the crown on the Triton is awesome. I was thinking about cutting
the tops off of the forks on my Koxx frame, but don't know if they will
be strong enough.

I cant really think of any new crown ideas, they all seem to heave been
done now. However custom frame building is cool, I wish there was
someone in the UK that built them (and I wish I had the money for one!)


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I'll throw this in the works:

Visually, I think the sponge is ugly - it's too bulshy, for my liking,
almost as if it takes over the unicycle (although I do suppose it is
the main part of the uni). I like the KH frames more because they are
sleek and not too big. A very similar design to the KH frame, in Ti,
would be ideal - if I had the money and necessetiy for one ;) :p .


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jamessd wrote:
> sponge is ugly


*::hahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah::*
sorry had to James :D

A cheaper, or Ti KH style frame would be good.


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The UniSLAB wrote:
> Haha yeah, well I don't have a problem with my devil frame, but then
> again I don't do flatland.
>
> Anyways I'm thinking we will offer 2 different 20" frames. A trials
> oriented one, and a flatland oriented one. Yay or nay?


I say yay!


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I realy like the sponge frame. If it could be made and sold alot cheeper
I would almost certainly buy one, either in aluminium or ti. The sponge
frame is amazingly nice for foot on crown tricks. I would say more so
than the KH. Shame triton has stopped manafacturing them, I think they
were onto a winnier (apart from the price). Maybe talk to sponge and
see if he will allow your friend to build them instead of triton.


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yeah. Some ideas. ive got plans, but i'll revise them.

1. Square tubing for almost anything you can do on it, Thats just my
opinion, since you could slim down how big it is also, resulting in a
lighter frame.

2. Built in seatclamp is a MEGA PLUS! +10000. It would be the sickest
thing ever.

3. The *seatpost* should definately have the same bolt pattern as the
kh/nimbus saddles. That'd be mega cool.

4. Okay, paint styling, even though it isnt too relevant. I have a few
graphic designs that i was going to us on my uni frame, they would look
pretty good. Although, i know some people would love the straight Ti
look. Not any paint or anything on it, that'd look pretty BA. If your
in for the graphic ideas, i could draw some up for whatever frame
design(s) you decide on. I'd probably like to only put it on the trials
though. (having my name on the frame as like a signature model would be
pretty bad ass also.)

5. Some how configure maybe triangular pieces of metal connecting to
the tubing thingy (on the frame), so it wont snap off in any case for
the street/flat one. Also offering almost a totaly flat crown on it.

6. The trials oriented frame should be rounded on the crown more so,
like the KH, but i still think working square tubing into the frame in
a week point would increase strength a lot.

okay, maybe not square tubing forks, because it'd end up looking
stupid, but you have to make it look really really sleek and
futuristic.

the seatpost clamp should be the quick clamp lever thingy. I'm leaning
more towards liking the quick clamp ones, considering there are
countless people who love to try and unicycle, but my saddle too low
for them. (i'm not that short, i just ride with my seat at my knees).

Props to you and your friend dude, for atleast spawning new ideas.


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well... for strength you could put simple cross gussets in the crown, or
run tubing slightly smaller inside of the tubing that is already going
to be there.


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Quick release is BAD! It hurts like hell when you hit your legs on it,
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