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  1. Yes, it is the amount of food that is the crucial variable in folks who
    are overweight.

    Truth is simple:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

    The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

    You will remain in my prayers, dear Alan whom I love, in Lord Christ's
    holy name.

    May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
    Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
    fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

    Here's how:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
    the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
    is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
    arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
    Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
    2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
    His presence known here on Usenet :-)

    Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
    oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
    "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

    Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
    thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

    http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:

    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
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    Alan S said:


    Fester said:

    Sorry for the cross posting but i thought it was worth doing!

    Just watched this .... i am actually thankful for being diabetic and
    nutrition aware, sure i'm not as good as quentin or alan ... and nowhere
    near as good as i could be, but compared to the numbers i saw that film
    quote .. i feel almost healthy.

    One thing is for sure, i am NEVER going to eat fast food ever again and i'm
    going to take a lot more notice of what i eat and what the food i eat
    contains.

    Fresh vegetables wherever i can and no more processed foods unless there is
    absolutely no alternative.

    I'm well aware we all die, what i am not going to do is quite literally eat
    myself to an early grave.

    I'm quite aware that most of you will have seen this, and probably all of
    you that read these groups are well aware of the problems created by a diet
    that only contains elements of what Morgan ate for that month .... but for
    me, that's given me the inspiration to remove all traces of it from my diet
    as soon as i can.

    If you haven't seen it, then i truly reccomend that you rent it and watch it
    and after that, tell me in all honesty whether you could ever enjoy "fast
    food" ever again.

    Cheers.

    Fester.


    Hi All

    The DVD finally turned up at my local Council Library.

    I found it fascinating.

    I know it's not scientific, not representative and has it's
    flaws. But it will be a long time before I eat at any large
    fast-food chain again.

    Two snippets to add to all of the previous comments. One was
    his GP constantly commenting on how he was killing himself
    with the high fat intake. Sure, he ate too much fat, but
    most of his calories were coming from excess high GI carbs
    and sugar. The bit where the lady shows the very large
    (gallon?) jar full of sugar to show how much pure sugar he
    ate in the month was a shock even for me. Then you add in
    all those buns, muffins, hot cakes and fries.

    The other was in the "bonus" footage on the DVD where they
    showed how long the preservative-filled Macca's foods lasted
    before decaying, compared to fast food from a standard
    burger shop. The Big Mac still looked good after a week
    (when the non-Maccas burger had turned black) and Macca's
    fries still looked fresh and new when everything else had
    turned (literally) to sludge.

    Cheers Alan, T2, Australia.
    --
    Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

    --
    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
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    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
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  2. Andrew B. Chung said:

    Yes, it is the amount of food that is the crucial variable in folks who
    are overweight.

    I had my two pounds of ice cream yesterday. Excellent diet.

  3. Stacey Bender said:


    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Yes, it is the amount of food that is the crucial variable in folks who
    are overweight.

    I had my two pounds of ice cream yesterday. Excellent diet.

    Glad you found the Ice Cream Diet dovetailed with the 2PD-OMER Approach
    palatable.

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

  4. Andrew B. Chung said:
    Stacey Bender said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Yes, it is the amount of food that is the crucial variable in folks who
    are overweight.

    I had my two pounds of ice cream yesterday. Excellent diet.

    Glad you found the Ice Cream Diet dovetailed with the 2PD-OMER Approach
    palatable.

    Tastes great. I do seem to be gaining weight thought. But it's just the
    2 pounds that matters so i should be ok.

  5. Stacey Bender said:


    Andrew B. Chung said:
    Stacey Bender said:

    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

    >Yes, it is the amount of food that is the crucial variable in folks who
    >are overweight.

    I had my two pounds of ice cream yesterday. Excellent diet.

    Glad you found the Ice Cream Diet dovetailed with the 2PD-OMER Approach
    palatable.

    Tastes great. I do seem to be gaining weight thought. But it's just the
    2 pounds that matters so i should be ok.

    Part of the 2PD-OMER Approach is the supervision of your doctor. So
    yes, if you are truly using the 2PD-OMER Approach to lose weight
    permanently, you will be fine.

    Truth is simple:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

    The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

    You will remain in my prayers, dear Stacey whom I love, in Christ's holy
    name.

    May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
    Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
    fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

    Here's how:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
    the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
    is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
    arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
    Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
    2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
    His presence known here on Usenet :-)

    Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
    oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
    "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

    Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
    thereby bringing this thread back on topic for these NGs :-)

    http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

  6. Eastbound and down, loaded up and truckin', we're gonna do what they say
    can't be done. We got a long way to go, and a short time to get there.
    I'm eastbound, just watch ol' "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" run.

    Quoted message said:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

    This link isn't short enough. Can you try it again?

  7. The time has come, the Walrus said, To talk of many things:
    Of shoes -- and ships -- and sealing-wax -- Of cabbages -- and kings --
    And why the sea is boiling hot -- And whether "Wavy G" did sing:

    Quoted message said:


    Eastbound and down, loaded up and truckin', we're gonna do what they
    say can't be done. We got a long way to go, and a short time to get
    there. I'm eastbound, just watch ol' "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" run.

    Quoted message said:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

    This link isn't short enough. Can you try it again?

    How 'bout this?

    http://tinyurl.com/cwvpc

    HTH, :-)
    Bob

  8. "Stacey Bender" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:
    Stacey Bender said:

    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

    >Yes, it is the amount of food that is the crucial variable in folks who
    >are overweight.

    I had my two pounds of ice cream yesterday. Excellent diet.

    Glad you found the Ice Cream Diet dovetailed with the 2PD-OMER Approach
    palatable.

    Tastes great. I do seem to be gaining weight thought. But it's just the 2
    pounds that matters so i should be ok.

    LOL I don't recommend 2lbs of Oreo's though... I've found teeth rot to be a
    downfall. Stick with the ice cream.. excellent choice.. or maybe switch to
    several different favorite candybars ..just remember not over 2lbs though.

    RK, t1

  9. Somewhere men are laughing, and little children shout...But there is no
    joy in rec.food.cooking--mighty "zxcvbob" has struck out.

    Quoted message said:

    The time has come, the Walrus said, To talk of many things:
    Of shoes -- and ships -- and sealing-wax -- Of cabbages -- and kings --
    And why the sea is boiling hot -- And whether "Wavy G" did sing:

    Quoted message said:


    Eastbound and down, loaded up and truckin', we're gonna do what they
    say can't be done. We got a long way to go, and a short time to get
    there. I'm eastbound, just watch ol' "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" run.

    Quoted message said:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

    This link isn't short enough. Can you try it again?

    How 'bout this?

    http://tinyurl.com/cwvpc

    Great! Thanks.

    Quoted message said:


    HTH, :-)
    Bob

  10. "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Stacey Bender said:


    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Stacey Bender wrote:

    >Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
    >
    >>Yes, it is the amount of food that is the crucial variable in folks
    >>who
    >>are overweight.
    >
    >I had my two pounds of ice cream yesterday. Excellent diet.

    Glad you found the Ice Cream Diet dovetailed with the 2PD-OMER Approach
    palatable.

    Tastes great. I do seem to be gaining weight thought. But it's just the
    2 pounds that matters so i should be ok.

    Part of the 2PD-OMER Approach is the supervision of your doctor. So
    yes, if you are truly using the 2PD-OMER Approach to lose weight
    permanently, you will be fine.

    Or any of several other diets. In addition, excercise is important to help
    decrease the risk of heart disease, stroke, high blood pressure, diabetes
    and other diseases. And you should talk to your doctor about this.

    Jeff

    <garbage deleted>

  11. Quoted message said:

    Or any of several other diets. In addition, excercise is
    important to help

    Yes. You should lift two pounds a day. No more. No less.
    Over your head, arms outstretched. Maintain position for two
    pounds' worth of hours breathing deeply. Release.

    This will keep you healthy.

    --
    Bob

    Kanyak's Doghouse
    http://www.kanyak.com

  12. Andrew B. Chung said:

    Stacey Bender wrote:
    Part of the 2PD-OMER Approach is the supervision of your doctor.

    Which bible verse is that exactly?

    I just checked in with my doctor. He said not to follow the 2PD-OMER
    approach because it is [censored]. So i am going to go off the 2PD-OMER
    apprach which is actually following the 2PD-OMER appraoch because my
    doctor said so.

  13. Stacey Bender said:


    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Stacey Bender wrote:
    Part of the 2PD-OMER Approach is the supervision of your doctor.

    Which bible verse is that exactly?

    It is clearly written in the instructions.

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
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  14. Opinicus said:


    Quoted message said:

    Or any of several other diets. In addition, excercise is
    important to help

    Yes. You should lift two pounds a day. No more. No less.
    Over your head, arms outstretched. Maintain position for two
    pounds' worth of hours breathing deeply. Release.

    "Exercise is neither necessary nor sufficient for weight loss when there
    is overeating."

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
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    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
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  15. Jeff said:


    "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Stacey Bender said:


    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
    > Stacey Bender wrote:
    >
    >>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
    >>
    >>>Yes, it is the amount of food that is the crucial variable in folks
    >>>who
    >>>are overweight.
    >>
    >>I had my two pounds of ice cream yesterday. Excellent diet.
    >
    >
    > Glad you found the Ice Cream Diet dovetailed with the 2PD-OMER Approach
    > palatable.

    Tastes great. I do seem to be gaining weight thought. But it's just the
    2 pounds that matters so i should be ok.

    Part of the 2PD-OMER Approach is the supervision of your doctor. So
    yes, if you are truly using the 2PD-OMER Approach to lose weight
    permanently, you will be fine.

    Or any of several other diets.

    The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet.

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

  16. "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Opinicus said:


    Quoted message said:

    Or any of several other diets. In addition, excercise is
    important to help

    Yes. You should lift two pounds a day. No more. No less.
    Over your head, arms outstretched. Maintain position for two
    pounds' worth of hours breathing deeply. Release.

    "Exercise is neither necessary nor sufficient for weight loss when there
    is overeating."

    Not sure I understand. If I exercise, I raise the number of calories that I
    burn. For example, assume that I'm "overeating" by 200 calories per day,
    and engage in no exercise. If I keep my diet exactly the same, but begin
    exercising enough to burn an additional 500 calories per day, I'll begin to
    lose weight through exercise alone.

    But, perhaps you're just playing word games here (it wouldn't be the first
    time, eh?). By definition, one can never lose weight through exercise,
    surgery, 2PD, or any other method if one is "overeating".

    GG

    Quoted message said:

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
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    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

  17. "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    (...)

    Quoted message said:

    The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet.

    It is a diet.

    Jeff

    <garbage deleted>

  18. Jeff said:


    "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    (...)

    Quoted message said:

    The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet.

    It is a diet.

    In keeping with the OP of this thread, someone on a McDonald's diet has
    not changed his/her diet by not finishing his/her meal.

    This would be one way to look at the 2PD-OMER Approach dovetailed with
    the McDonald's diet thereby illustrating that the 2PD-OMER Approach is
    not a diet.

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

  19. GaryG said:


    "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Opinicus said:


    > Or any of several other diets. In addition, excercise is
    > important to help

    Yes. You should lift two pounds a day. No more. No less.
    Over your head, arms outstretched. Maintain position for two
    pounds' worth of hours breathing deeply. Release.

    "Exercise is neither necessary nor sufficient for weight loss when there
    is overeating."

    Not sure I understand. If I exercise, I raise the number of calories that I
    burn. For example, assume that I'm "overeating" by 200 calories per day,
    and engage in no exercise. If I keep my diet exactly the same, but begin
    exercising enough to burn an additional 500 calories per day, I'll begin to
    lose weight through exercise alone.

    But, perhaps you're just playing word games here (it wouldn't be the first
    time, eh?). By definition, one can never lose weight through exercise,
    surgery, 2PD, or any other method if one is "overeating".

    Both gastric bypass surgery and the 2PD-OMER Approach directly address
    and stop the overeating.

    Exercise and dieting can occur concurrently with overeating.

    Truth is simple.

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

  20. "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    GaryG said:


    "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Opinicus wrote:
    >
    > > Or any of several other diets. In addition, excercise is
    > > important to help
    >
    > Yes. You should lift two pounds a day. No more. No less.
    > Over your head, arms outstretched. Maintain position for two
    > pounds' worth of hours breathing deeply. Release.

    "Exercise is neither necessary nor sufficient for weight loss when


    there

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is overeating."

    Not sure I understand. If I exercise, I raise the number of calories


    that I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    burn. For example, assume that I'm "overeating" by 200 calories per


    day,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and engage in no exercise. If I keep my diet exactly the same, but


    begin

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    exercising enough to burn an additional 500 calories per day, I'll begin


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    lose weight through exercise alone.

    But, perhaps you're just playing word games here (it wouldn't be the


    first

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    time, eh?). By definition, one can never lose weight through exercise,
    surgery, 2PD, or any other method if one is "overeating".

    Both gastric bypass surgery and the 2PD-OMER Approach directly address
    and stop the overeating.

    But, wouldn't 2PD be "overeating" for some people? For instance, someone
    who is in a persistent vegetative state (e.g., the late Teri Schiavo)?

    And, wouldn't it be "undereating" for someone who performs heavy physical
    labor, or who participates in endurance sports?

    For instance, I rode my bike 602 miles in April, at an average speed of
    16.24 mph, with nearly 34,000 feet of climbing. I estimate that I burned
    around 27,000 calories as a result of this exercise. I'm already at the
    15th percentile for weight, based on my age, gender, and height...if my diet
    only permitted 2 lbs of food per day, I would probably lose a dangerous
    amount of weight, or experience decreased performance on the bike, or both.

    Quoted message said:

    Exercise and dieting can occur concurrently with overeating.

    Yes, but exercise can also turn "overeating" into "weight loss", without a
    change in the quantity or composition of the food consumed.

    GG
    http://www.WeightWare.com
    Your Weight and Health Diary

    Quoted message said:


    Truth is simple.

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
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    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
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